Fact, Inference, Judgement For CAT 2008

[dazed]

[quote=drgrudge;1249531]dazed, thanks for the exercise. It would be great if we get nice and juicy FIJs in the CAT '08. The more, the merrier.

@ Drgrudge - u got 9 on 10 correct - so we know, whom to approach in case som1 has doubts, good show and dont worry - i hope cat ones also will be a cake walk for u. try solving the ones that Anirudh posts - his ones I think are at par with CAT.

Sorry puyz, got caught up in one of the caselets, the old horses are being seen lesser and lesser, pooja, varun et al, but good to see, siddharth! Great thread Sid!

Ok Guyz, here are the ans :
1. J [since the statement is not verifiable and also contains a lot of subjective generalisation,so it’s a judgement]
2. F[its verifiable and is fully objective, hence a fact]
3. F[we can verify about the product thus the statement is a fact]
4. F[again the statement is verifiable from the person, so is a fact]
5. I [a conclusion about something based on a known factor,thus the statement is an inference]
6. J [it is a generalised statement and mind not hold true for all cases, thus is a judgement]
7. F [verifiable,whether julian was doing it or not, thus is a fact]
8. J [who is the I? not verifiable and also glorification of the subject I, thus will fall in the category of judgement]
9. I [a conclusion based on a fact, therefore an inference]
10. I [the govt. did something which will result in something, thus an inference or a conclusion based on certain facts]

today loads of questions already - two sets posted by Anirudh and 1 more set by rk. Lets get going!!!

[dazed]

Originally Posted by anirudhsgi

Try this:
1.In the two or three following centuries , abhidhamma texts were composed ,systematizing and thus interpreting the teachings in the form of intricate analyses of the working of the mind.
2.The new texts were ascribed by the mahayanists to the buddha , as they held that visionary and meditative experience could still contact him or draw on the wisdom that had informed him.
3.Soon after Buddha died , a monastic council was held to agree on the contents of his teachings ,which were to be passed on by communal chanting
4. The mahayana saw the earlier teaching as provisional ones , and included in their texts a critique of the early schools ,of which there had developed around eighteen.

IFFF

Originally Posted by anirudhsgi

try this one too:
1. A study of 500 youngsters revealed that fathers who do not set clear limits for their kids are more likely to have heavier children.
2.Childhood obesity is growing in Australia - Can we call this to be verifiable by survey? , with more than 20% preschool children either overweight or obese.
3.Obese school children are very likely to become obese adults.
4.When parents eat a variety of food that is low in fat and sugar and high in fiber , children learn to like these foods as well.

FFII

Originally Posted by rkapoor9

Here's a question---F/I/J
rkapoor9-13-10-2008-Pg100
1. The point to focus in this statement is not that "ALL" the problems in this world can be solved or not....
2. The given statement is an inference for sure because the first part is a verifiable fact
3.The statement cannot be a judgment because the fact supporting the conclusion is a strong verifiable one
4. first thing that comes to my mind is verifying such a thing is not possible

Ye kya hai ?
1. Judgement - no dislikes/likes, nothing that can be verified
2. Judgement. Nothing can be verified
3. Judgement - very strong opinions.
4. Ye iske shaatir dimaag ki upaj hai - Fact.
JJJF

@rkapoor - kaha se dhund k laye ho bhai?

[zat]

1.In the two or three following centuries , abhidhamma texts were composed ,systematizing and thus interpreting the teachings in the form of intricate analyses of the working of the mind.*Fact*
2.The new texts were ascribed by the mahayanists to the buddha , as they held that visionary and meditative experience could still contact him or draw on the wisdom that had informed him.*Fact*
3.Soon after Buddha died , a monastic council was held to agree on the contents of his teachings ,which were to be passed on by communal chanting*Fact*
4. The mahayana saw the earlier teaching as provisional ones , and included in their texts a critique of the early schools ,of which there had developed around eighteen.*Fact*
FFFF?

[zat]

1. A study of 500 youngsters revealed that fathers who do not set clear limits for their kids are more likely to have heavier children.*Inference*
2.Childhood obesity is growing in Australia , with more than 20% preschool children either overweight or obese.*Fact*
3.Obese school children are very likely to become obese adults.*Judgement*
4.When parents eat a variety of food that is low in fat and sugar and high in fiber , children learn to like these foods as well.*Inference*

[zat]

1) Professional intellectuals are the voice of a culture and are, therefore, its leaders, its integrators and its bodyguards.*Inference*

2) Bankruptcy is defined as the state of being at the end of one’s resources.*Fact*

3) Honda introduces a small, user friendly motorcycle into a U.S. market dominated by big bikes and a black-leather-jacket image.*Fact*

4) He had always believed that the sheep were able to understand what he said.*Fact* or maybe judgement.. confused

5) In order to meet the increasing demand, I feel it was essential for ASMO to increase its production capacity.*Judgement*

6) The root cause of terrorism is the erosion of family values and commercialization of education.*Fact*

7) Julian's outrageous courtroom theatrics regularly made the front pages of the newspapers*Fact*

I think, therefore I am and I should be, because I think.*Inference*

9) To maintain its pre-eminent position (and to earn its high fees) the Firm seeks out the cream of each year’s crop of business school graduates.*Fact*

10)The government replaced the old EPZ regime by a new scheme of “Special Economic Zones” (SEZs) with several lucrative incentives/benefits that were not available in the earlier scheme and this policy is expected to give a big push to exports, employment and investment in SEZs.*Judgement*

[libi]

Originally Posted by vivekkahn

Hi...
here also its a fact as i(author) am not giving an opinion...i am stating wat i think...so it is a fact as it can be verified by asking...

Its similar to 'I think Vanilla icecream is the best'
or 'My favorite icecream flavour is butterscotch' (This is a fact...as it actually is my favourite)...

Well if u reason it out dat waz, den anything wat da user has an opinion bout becomes a fact. Den wats da point. May be m not gettin ur reasoning, but can u frame a judgement or an inference out of da above statement(da one mentioned before)!!!!

Regards,
libi

[libi]

rkapoor9-13-10-2008-Pg100

1.Fact (very confusing. j/i/f all seemed valid)
2.Judgement
3.Inference
4.Fact

[libi]

Tough one

1.Fact( very confusing, bwn I and F)
2.Fact
3.Fact
4.Fact

[libi]

1.Fact
2.Fact
3.Fact
4.Fact

Vow!!! think i have gone insane!!!!

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by dazed

@ Drgrudge - u got 9 on 10 correct - so we know, whom to approach in case som1 has doubts, good show and dont worry - i hope cat ones also will be a cake walk for u. try solving the ones that Anirudh posts - his ones I think are at par with CAT.

Some 20 days back I knew nothing in FIJs. I used to skip them in the mock CATs. Then after analyzing the mocks, it seemed FIJs are the relatively easier questions in the VA section. Plus they take less time to answer.

Thanks to the guy who uploaded all the FIJs in this thread till page 52 (that really helped), Ani, rocha, you, pooja and the other regulars. So there's still time for anyone who want to hone their "FIJ skills".