Fact, Inference, Judgement For CAT 2008

[dazed]

Originally Posted by anirudhsgi

hey Rocha yes you have pointed out something very interesting .....hmmmm see first thing that comes to my mind is verifying such a thing is not possible ...even if you ask this to the Buddhists they may have different opinions and also such a statement has a higher level of "abstraction" .......Statement 4 is an inference for sure because the first part is a verifiable fact ......and also if people around the globe follow this principle of cause and effect they can solve most of their problems.....this cannot be a judgment because the fact supporting the conclusion is a strong verifiable one (can also refer to the definition of FACT)yes the conclusion here appears like an opinion stated but the fact completely supports it.....The point to focus in this statement is not that "ALL" the problems in this world can be solved or not....This is only my opinion if any feels something else please put in your explanations......

Hey
Well said Ani...
Just to add to what Ani has written, lets consider in parts the 4th statement

4. Buddhism preaches the theory of cause and effect which makes it relevant in the present world and can be used to overcome the problems throughout the globe.

Whatever is in blue - is verifiable - so FACT
which signifies - beginning of an inference (as it is preceded by a fact)
Now to judge, whether this is an inference/judgement,
consider the part in green - and can be - this indicates - that this is one of the possibilities - backed by a fact.
Had it been
'and should be used to overcome'
then induces - a sense of responsibility, making it closer to what we could term as judgement, but still in the latter case, it could possibly be an inference, depending on question -setters idea of things.

So IMO, if u think the conclusion - is not highly opinionated and backed by a fact, u can safely mark it as inference. Just my opinion. is highly debatable.

[dazed]

Since Ani isnt posting today, I m posting some FIJ's sent to me by one of my friends. That time around, I got almost everything wrong, wish to see, how I scale up this time.
@Ani, please post two questions only, tomorrow

1) Professional intellectuals are the voice of a culture and are, therefore, its leaders, its integrators and its bodyguards.

2) Bankruptcy is defined as the state of being at the end of one’s resources.

3) Honda introduces a small, user friendly motorcycle into a U.S. market dominated by big bikes and a black-leather-jacket image.

4) He had always believed that the sheep were able to understand what he said.

5) In order to meet the increasing demand, I feel it was essential for ASMO to increase its production capacity.

6) The root cause of terrorism is the erosion of family values and commercialization of education.

7) Julian's outrageous courtroom theatrics regularly made the front pages of the newspapers

I think, therefore I am and I should be, because I think.

9) To maintain its pre-eminent position (and to earn its high fees) the Firm seeks out the cream of each year’s crop of business school graduates.

10)The government replaced the old EPZ regime by a new scheme of “Special Economic Zones” (SEZs) with several lucrative incentives/benefits that were not available in the earlier scheme and this policy is expected to give a big push to exports, employment and investment in SEZs.

[dazed]

My Ans (Not the OA)
1)J
2)F
3)F
4)F
5)I
6)F
7)J
J
9)I
10)F

[rocha]

Re: Dazed pg 99 - 10 FIJ's

My take:

1) Professional intellectuals are the voice of a culture and are, therefore, its leaders, its integrators and its bodyguards.
Judgment
I am confused with this one. Even if we take the first part to be a fact then the second part is a conclusion. But the fact isn’t a strong one to make the conclusion an inference.. I mean like I might feel “therefore , its leaders but not bodyguards “ Soooo for me an opinion.

2) Bankruptcy is defined as the state of being at the end of one’s resources.
Fact... Coz he’s just telling what bankruptcy is defined as. I guess if he had said bankruptcy “can be” or “may be” defined as blah blah then it could have been a judgment.

3) Honda introduces a small, user friendly motorcycle into a U.S. market dominated by big bikes and a black-leather-jacket image.
Fact. Here its just telling what Honda has introduced. The words user-friendly did confuse me a bit but well for me its still a fact .

4) He had always believed that the sheep were able to understand what he said.
Fact. The author is just telling what some guy believed. That’s it.

5) In order to meet the increasing demand, I feel it was essential for ASMO to increase its production capacity.
Judgment. The words “I feel”.

6) The root cause of terrorism is the erosion of family values and commercialization of education.
Judgment. This is the author’s opinion that the above is the root cause. I might feel the root cause to be something else. Also I don think that this cause can be verified. At least here he’s just telling his opinion.

7) Julian's outrageous courtroom theatrics regularly made the front pages of the newspapers
Judgment / Fact .. Im not sure about this one . Coz otherwise its a fact but then there is an "outrageous" there. Donno if its a strong enuf word to make it a judgment.

8 ) I think, therefore I am and I should be, because I think.
Judgment. The first part seems an inference but then he says should be ... He thinks he should be but just because he thinks i might not feel he should be ..

9) To maintain its pre-eminent position (and to earn its high fees) the Firm seeks out the cream of each year’s crop of business school graduates.
Fact

10)The government replaced the old EPZ regime by a new scheme of “Special Economic Zones” (SEZs) with several lucrative incentives/benefits that were not available in the earlier scheme and this policy is expected to give a big push to exports, employment and investment in SEZs.
Inference.. Initial part is a fact and then he’s inferring “expected to”

[tarunkabra]

Re: Dazed pg 99 - 10 FIJ's

My Ans
1)J
2)F
3)F
4)F
5)J
6)J (Doubt its verifiable)
7)F
J
9)I
10)J ( Though author is drawing a conclusion from a fact but seems a strong conclusion. So going for it.)

Very long exercise

[libi]

My Take:

1.J
2.F
3.F
4.F
5.I
6.J
7.F
8.I
9.I
10.F

[libi]

hello Puys,

I have a doubt, suppose the statement is
1. The govt has come out with a new policy and i think it should help in removing poverty. Then its an inference as the author infers this thing.

But if the stmnt is like:
1.The govt has come out with a new policy and it thinks that it should help in removing poverty. What should it be, inference or fact.

What i am trying to frame is that, if its inference for the other person, is it an inference for us to or it becomes a fact?? u can consider the 10th sentence of "dazed" post for that matter..

Thanks

Regards,
libi.

[rocha]

@libi

I have a doubt, suppose the statement is
1. The govt has come out with a new policy and i think it should help in removing poverty. Then its an inference as the author infers this thing.
I think it will be a judgement. See the govt is out with a policy .So YOU think that it should help , whereas i dont.
For eg , the reservations are out , i think they will help the backward castes but its not necessary ul also think so...

1. The govt has come out with a new policy and it might help in removing poverty.
This is an inference . Coz u r inferring that there is a new (policy) and u r inferring tht it might..

But if the stmnt is like:
1.The govt has come out with a new policy and it thinks that it should help in removing poverty. What should it be, inference or fact.
Thats a fact . coz the govt came up and govt only thinks ... u r not thinking . U r just telling wht they think ... i.e just giving information.

What i am trying to frame is that, if its inference for the other person, is it an inference for us to or it becomes a fact?? u can consider the 10th sentence of "dazed" post for that matter..

In the 10th one , some fact is given.. He's not saying it should or it will give a big push.. There is a fact but can u prove tht its expected to ?? I gess no ... so u inferring from a fact that it might give a push


PS : All this is my explanation . Donno whats right or wrong... But i felt this

Thanks

[rkapoor9]

Re: Dazed pg 99 - 10 FIJ's

1-J
2-F
3-F
4-F
5-J
6-J
7-F
8-J
9-F
10-I

[drgrudge]

dazed, thanks for the exercise. It would be great if we get nice and juicy FIJs in the CAT '08. The more, the merrier.


Re: Dazed pg 99 - 10 FIJ's

1-J
2-F
3-F
4-F
5-J
6-J
7-F
8-J
9-I (A conclusion based on a fact)
10-I