Parajumbles for CAT 2008

[vars.jat]

Kya hua vyomb bhai ......khan chale gaye....

waise yeh thread suna lag raha hai

@ all....guys we can do one thing either we can discuss the PJs given by Vyomb (3 or 4 ) at a time....so that we can come to know what are other tricks in finding the links.

Or we can discuss them by posting 5 PJs (new ones )in a day and discussing them for 1 day taking each PJ option wise. Cos many a time it becomes to strike out 2 close options

[kewl.bantee]

Originally Posted by vars.jat

Kya hua vyomb bhai ......khan chale gaye....

waise yeh thread suna lag raha hai

@ all....guys we can do one thing either we can discuss the PJs given by Vyomb (3 or 4 ) at a time....so that we can come to know what are other tricks in finding the links.

Or we can discuss them by posting 5 PJs (new ones )in a day and discussing them for 1 day taking each PJ option wise. Cos many a time it becomes to strike out 2 close options

i guess we can post the PJs to make this thread active

[FakkadNath]

hello ppl,
i have a doubt regarding the PJ that tarun posted on first page,
I PMed him but i havnt got any reply yet.
So i am looking forwrd for ur help.
This is what i sent him-

hello tarun,
i have some doubt regarding a PJ which u have posted,
ii have analysed it again n again, and really confused now,
here it goes-

(CAT 2001)


A. The situations in which violence occurs and the nature of that violence tends to be clearly defined at least in theory, as in the proverbial Irishman’s question: ‘Is this a private fight or can anyone join in?’


B. So the actual risk to outsiders, though no doubt higher than our societies, is calculable.


C. Probably the only uncontrolled applications of force are those of social superiors to social inferiors and even here there are probably some rules.


D. However binding the obligation to kill, members of feuding families engaged in mutual massacre will be genuinely appalled if by some mischance a bystander or outsider is killed.


1. DABC 2. ACDB 3. CBAD 4. DBAC


Answer:

The clue to this question came to me from the word ‘calculable’ in sentence B: So the actual risk to outsiders, though no doubt higher than our societies, is calculable. How does something become ‘calculable’? Then I noticed sentence A and the phrase ‘clearly defined in theory…’ Something becomes calculable when it is clearly defined in theory. No other sentence could give answers to ‘calculable’. Therefore, the link AB was clearly marked. The link AB was present in option 1 only. Easy, rght?
now my doubt is that even sentence C talks about the rules which can lead to the word "calculable".
Moreover, if the correct option is 1 then the first sentence will be D, which starts with "However".
I feel it should be preceded by some other sentence.
To me option 3 sounds more appropriate.
Plz clarify the doubt, i m going nuts analysing this question.
Thanx a lot in advance. waiting for ur reply

Let me know guys if u come up with smthng...........

[kewl.bantee]

A. The situations in which violence occurs and the nature of that violence tends to be clearly defined at least in theory, as in the proverbial Irishman’s question: ‘Is this a private fight or can anyone join in?’


B. So the actual risk to outsiders, though no doubt higher than our societies, is calculable.


C. Probably the only uncontrolled applications of force are those of social superiors to social inferiors and even here there are probably some rules.


D. However binding the obligation to kill, members of feuding families engaged in mutual massacre will be genuinely appalled if by some mischance a bystander or outsider is killed.


1. DABC 2. ACDB 3. CBAD 4. DBAC

lets do it step by step
in this case sometime omitting the wrong choices serves really nice 2 find the most befitting one out of the remaining two choices.
so here we can easily omit choice1 and 4 cuz the sentence starts with however
now lets analyse the option 3. here it begins with C which starts with the word probably.probably can be used to begin a sentence which means most likely but if u closely look at the sentence the use of HERE THERE ARE weakens it to be an introductory sentence.it needs some back up with the previous sentence cuz here there are sites as if we hav already had a discussion about it before.hence we cant start here with C.
So ACDB is the answer and they are well-connected.sometimes parajumbles baffle us with improper links with all sentences out of all possible combinations.there we must look out of that combination which is less improper when compared to rest of the combinations.
and the word calculable also means to be estimated and estimated value not necessarily to be accrate all the time.so there's nothing wrong in the sentence B coming after D

hope this helps

[FakkadNath]

@bantee
u r right buddy, correct ans should be (2),

can u help me with this one-


A. It is difficult to date the epics.
B. Evidently many authors have written them or added to them in successive periods.
C. The Ramayana is an epic poem with a certain unity of treatment; the Mahabharta is a vast & miscellaneous collection of ancient lore.
D. They deal with remote periods when the Arayans were still in the process of setting down & consolidating themselves in India.


1. CDBA 2. ADBC 3. DCBA 4 ABCD

[deepakraam]

A. It is difficult to date the epics.
B. Evidently many authors have written them or added to them in successive periods.
C. The Ramayana is an epic poem with a certain unity of treatment; the Mahabharta is a vast & miscellaneous collection of ancient lore.
D. They deal with remote periods when the Arayans were still in the process of setting down & consolidating themselves in India.

1. CDBA 2. ADBC 3. DCBA 4 ABCD

Ans for the above PJ is option 1.CDBA.Is it correct?

-Deepak.

[kewl.bantee]

Originally Posted by FakkadNath

@bantee
u r right buddy, correct ans should be (2),

can u help me with this one-


A. It is difficult to date the epics.
B. Evidently many authors have written them or added to them in successive periods.
C. The Ramayana is an epic poem with a certain unity of treatment; the Mahabharta is a vast & miscellaneous collection of ancient lore.
D. They deal with remote periods when the Arayans were still in the process of setting down & consolidating themselves in India.


1. CDBA 2. ADBC 3. DCBA 4 ABCD

if u mull over all the sentences then u can easily find A and D are linked on consequetive basis.D justifies A why its difficult to date the epics.hence AD should come together.and there's only one option satisfyin this.so ans is ADBC

if we solve it in anothr way.option 3 is omitted cuz it starts with D.then we r left with 1 and 4 which has no strong links with the sentences.so option 2 is the best one.

[FakkadNath]

Originally Posted by kewl.bantee

if u mull over all the sentences then u can easily find A and D are linked on consequetive basis.D justifies A why its difficult to date the epics.hence AD should come together.and there's only one option satisfyin this.so ans is ADBC

if we solve it in anothr way.option 3 is omitted cuz it starts with D.then we r left with 1 and 4 which has no strong links with the sentences.so option 2 is the best one.

thnx for ur reply bantee,

dnt u thnk sentence D after A sounds a lil out of place ????

A. It is difficult to date the epics.
D. They deal with remote periods when the Arayans were still in the process of setting down & consolidating themselves in India.

here we have to assume that in sentence A author was talking about Ramayana and Mahabharata, coz in sentence D he says they deal with Aryan period.

I feel sentence D perfectly describes sentence C,

C. The Ramayana is an epic poem with a certain unity of treatment; the Mahabharta is a vast & miscellaneous collection of ancient lore.
D. They deal with remote periods when the Arayans were still in the process of setting down & consolidating themselves in India.

when i attempted i chose (1),
can u(or ne oder puy) plz explain a lil more why option (1) is wrong ?????

thnx a lot in advance

[CAT_Eyed]

Originally Posted by FakkadNath

@bantee
u r right buddy, correct ans should be (2),

can u help me with this one-


A. It is difficult to date the epics.
B. Evidently many authors have written them or added to them in successive periods.
C. The Ramayana is an epic poem with a certain unity of treatment; the Mahabharta is a vast & miscellaneous collection of ancient lore.
D. They deal with remote periods when the Arayans were still in the process of setting down & consolidating themselves in India.


1. CDBA 2. ADBC 3. DCBA 4 ABCD

The correct answer will be 4.
Reason: Keyword is in sentence B 'Evidently'. It is evident of what? Evident of the fact that it is difficult to determine the age of the epics because they are not written at single point of time(indicating sentence A will precede B). Keyword is also in sentence D 'They' referring to the epic of Mahabharata dealing with the advent of Aryans (Indicating C will precede D).
Though by sense ABCD will be chosen as the correct option still going by logic answers can be ABCD or CDAB. But CDAB is not in option. Hence 4.

[N.B.: Reason as to why A will never precede D: epics never deal with periods related to Aryans. I cannot say 'The Iliad' deals with the Aryans settling down. But I can say 'The Ramayana' and 'The Mahabharata' dealing with the Aryans settling down.]

[kewl.bantee]

yes the right ans would be ABCD.
and why it cant be option 1 cuz the sentence A comes at the last which is incomplete enough not to conclude the paragraph.