RC with a diiference

[fultoo_bakar]

Hi Puys,

RC has invited a lot of attention from the eyes of CAT since the past couple of years. RC has moved from being mechanical to more demanding inferential type. I lost the battle of CAT 06 because of my english, thats when i decided to conquer the western part of the battle by going skin deep into the passage, which will be accomplished only if

1. one has underlying interest in the subject being discussed.
2. one has some sort of prior knowledge on the subject(which automatically comes if the rule 1 is fulfilled). Although you dont have to apply the knowledge, but say you dont know the meaning of 'Renaissance', chances are that a RC on 'Contemporary ART' may not interest you.

to nullify these areas i thought of reading on a particular topic .5-1 hr everyday for a week and since we are having 24 weeks to go, 24 topics can be covered in depth.



Now you must be wandering y m i sharing this with you. I need some help. If we all prepare a single topic each week and share the material on this thread for the fellow puys then it will be mutually beneficial. Like if i prepare on a topic A and then share only the RELEVANT material with necessary edits so as to not waste time of other fellow puys, then it may be helpful.

Topics will be of the likes of:
Deconstruction
Structuralism
Modernism, Post Modernism
Marxism
Litreture and so on.

I have chosen these bore topics because you can find business, politics, religionism etc etc in newspapers but for these you either have to dig the internet or read a specific novel.

The discussions on these topics will lead to further formualtion of more topics. I am expecting a lively discussions on the topic so that if RC is remotely associated with the topic then it should be easy for us to associate it, thinking from all perspective.


Mods: This idea was formulated at thread 'preparation agenda for CAT'. I could not find a relevant thread for discussing the same. i did not want to infringe in anybody's RC thread.
Please move it to the relevant thread if you find any, otherwise i hope a lively discussion, if not let it die a silent death.

[charly]

hey,g8 initiative. pls carry on. count me in. comprehension in rc will defn boost wen u r familiar wid the topics. plus discussions can always help from gd point of view. lets get started.

[luck!matters]

count me in ......hope to see some good topics here ....

[amit_vce]

Originally Posted by fultoo_bakar

Hi Puys,


Topics will be of the likes of:
Deconstruction
Structuralism
Modernism, Post Modernism
Marxism
Litreture and so on.

I have chosen these bore topics because you can find business, politics, religionism etc etc in newspapers but for these you either have to dig the internet or read a specific novel.

The discussions on these topics will lead to further formualtion of more topics. I am expecting a lively discussions on the topic so that if RC is remotely associated with the topic then it should be easy for us to associate it, thinking from all perspective.


Mods: This idea was formulated at thread 'preparation agenda for CAT'. I could not find a relevant thread for discussing the same. i did not want to infringe in anybody's RC thread.
Please move it to the relevant thread if you find any, otherwise i hope a lively discussion, if not let it die a silent death.

I admire the idea and ready to pour in. Lets start with your understanding on ART which you assimilated after reading on ART.

We should follow a pattern to post the contents on this thread , so that reading will be constructive and in a particular direction.

[fultoo_bakar]

So lets get going with the topics. The whole intention of my starting this thread is based on the intention that if one reads a topic whole heartedly then after a few reads say for a week he starts getting hang of it and then he can understand of what to skip and what to grasp for the further reading. So i may cut and paste some material but those few paragraphs should not be skipped so as to understand the topics in depth.


ART.
before one start reading about the topic, some underlying definations should be understood which will be helpful in visualizing the evolution if ART.

Modernism: Modernism is a trend of thought that affirms the power of human beings to create, improve, and reshape their environment, with the aid of scientific knowledge, technology and practical experimentation, and is thus in its essence both progressive and optimistic. It was the era after the historic period when the thoughts started to take shape because of the industrial revolution. It was belived to comprise of the period between 1890-1910.

This term modernism is encountered in many RC's. atleast the ones i have come across.

Post Modernism: The term Postmodernism (abbreviated Pomo[1]) was coined in 1949 to describe a dissatisfaction with modern architecture, founding the postmodern architecture.[2], and later of, relating to, or being any of several movements (as in art, architecture, or literature) that are reactions against the philosophy and practices of modern movements and are typically marked by revival of traditional elements and techniques.[3] Postmodernity is the derivative to refer to non-art aspects of history that was influenced by the new movement.

Rennaisance:The Renaissance was a cultural movement that spanned roughly the 14th through the 17th century, beginning in Italy in the late Middle Ages and later spreading to the rest of Europe. It encompassed the revival of learning based on classical sources, the rise of courtly and papal patronage, the development of perspective in painting, and advancements in science. The Renaisance had wide-ranging consequences in all intellectual pursuits, but is perhaps best known for its artistic aspect.

The only thing to be grasped in Renaissance is that it was in europe though the ramification were visible in different parts of the world.

This might sound very boring . But when has RC been interesting(except when it is about *** surveys).

Now we come to our topic ART.

Art is that which is made with the intention of stimulating the human senses as well as the human mind and/or spirit. There is no general agreed-upon definition of art, since defining the boundaries of "art" is subjective, but the impetus for art is often called human creativity.

The defination is IMP as it states that ART can be anything not necessarily a peice of painting on canvass. we generally say ART of deception. So passage on art need not be on painting. i am giving the idea behind the lines so as to make you understand that these ideas should be running in parellel to the RC you come across as this is what is called 'questioning' an RC.
Classification disputes about art:
I liked this para a lot as it corroborates that ART has alwas been as a contentious issue. We have recently seen the demonstrations agains MF hussain and the Baroda controversy on 'ART'.

It is common in the history of art for people to dispute whether a particular form or work, or particular piece of work counts as art or not. In fact for much of the past century the idea of art has been to simply challenge what art is.

In the 20th century, examples of high-profile controversial art include Pablo Picasso's "Guernica" (1937), considered by most at the time as the primitive output of a madman, this the sole explanation for its 'hodgepodge of body parts' and Leon Golub's "Interrogation III" (195, shocking the American conscience with a nude, hooded detainee strapped to a chair, surrounded by several ever-so-normal looking "cop" interrogators.

Please have a look at these two painting above, i have posted the embedded link. i will discuss about these paintings in my next post.



I am a working professional and might not get enough time to pen all these but i will try my best to help you and in process i will remind myself all i thought while reading about the topic.
cheers

By the way did any of you know the meaning of contemporary ART. do give the ans without looking at the net.

The topic will be continued......

[MG_1806]

On the first look it seems as if Modernism and Rennaissance are same but a closer look suggests that while Renaissance is more related to art,Modernism relates to improving and reshaping the whole environment.

Originally Posted by fultoo_bakar

By the way did any of you know the meaning of contemporary ART. do give the ans without looking at the net.

Contemporary means Living or Existing at same time.So just going through "Contemporary Art" it should mean "Art which is in sync with the time"

[MG_1806]

@fultoo_bakar-Where is the next set?I'm eagerly looking forward to it.

[maverickjesse]

well first of all kudos to all of u for this thread. i just read about that art stuff.
hope to c all the good work in future too. i have started with 'Marxism' and will be posting the all the gyan about it by monday... till than keep rocking.............

[amit_vce]

Originally Posted by maverickjesse

well first of all kudos to all of u for this thread. i just read about that art stuff.
hope to c all the good work in future too. i have started with 'Marxism' and will be posting the all the gyan about it by monday... till than keep rocking.............

maverick , i also had a go on Marxism. Will be a good discussion.

To make it more interesting for people , why dnt we put some questions too at the end of the contents to judge the comprehension too.

[fultoo_bakar]

To start with where we left.....Contemporary 'ART', it is the form of 'ART' which is produced at present, so MG was on target.

Lets first quickly go through the history of ART.

The field of "art history" was developed in the West, and originally dealt exclusively with Western painting, and Western art history, with the High Renaissance (and its Greek precedent) as the defining standard.


Gradually, with the onset of Modernism, a wider vision of history has developed, seeking to place other societies in a global overview by analyzing their artifacts in terms of their own cultural values. Thus, the subject is now seen to encompass all visual art, from the megaliths of Western Europe to the paintings of the Tang Dynasty in China.
(Megalith is referred to as structure of stones. The above paragraph pleads to recall the definations of modrenism and renaissance.)


The viewpoint of the art historian is a significant input into the defining parameters which are employed. For example, during the early Victorian era, the quattrocento artists were considered inferior to those of the High Renaissance—a notion subsequently challenged by the Pre-Raphaelite movement. There has since been a trend, dominant in most modern art history, to see all cultures and periods from a neutral point of view, with a tendency to shy away from value judgements. Thus, for example, Australian Aboriginal art would not be deemed better or worse than Michelangelo by typical Modernist art historians—just different.


Analysis has also evolved into studying the "political" use of art, rather than reserving analysis to the aesthetic appreciation of its craftsmanship or beauty. It is believed there is always an intent and a philosophy behind art, and an effect achieved by it. Thus, for example, the considerable employment by the Eastern Orthodox Church in the Middle Ages can be contrasted or compared with "Sovietpropaganda", the manifestation of social structure through 19th-century portraiture, an anarcho-religious vision exemplified by Van Gogh, etc.


What may once have been viewed simply as a masterpiece is now deconstructed into an economic, social, philosophical, and cultural manifestation of the artist's world-view, philosophy, intentions and background.
(This can be best exemplified when baroda artist drew feminist pictures, and I heard in a discussion on news channel, that “artist put the thinking of society on canvass. So if these pictures are perverted then so is the thinking of Indian society, Artist cannot be blamed alone for the mess”.)


Now the timeline for ART.
Ancient art
The period of ancient art began when ancient civilizations developed a form of written language. The earliest examples of ancient art originated from Mesopotamia and Egypt.

The great traditions in art have a foundation in the art of one of the six great ancient civilizations: Ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, India, or China. Each of these centers of early civilization developed a unique and characteristic style in their art. Because of their size and duration these civilizations, more of their art works have survived and more of their influence has been transmitted to other cultures and later times. They have also provided us with the first records of how artists worked.


Post-ancient Western art
In Byzantine and Gothic art of the Middle Ages, the dominance of the church insisted on the expression of biblical and not material truths. There was no need to depict the reality of the material world, in which man was born in a "state of sin", so the skill of doing so was marginalised in favour of methods which would show the higher unseen glory of a heavenly world, especially through the extensive use of gold in paintings, which also presented figures in idealised, patterned (i.e."flat") forms.


The Renaissance is the return yet again to valuation of the material world, and this paradigm shift is reflected in art forms, which show the corporeality of the human body, and the three dimensional reality of landscape.