No Entrance Exam for Professional Courses in TamilNadu

[harini9876]

As a continuation of my take on the entrance test pattern I feel that the Possible solution would be:

To revert back to the old system and ensure that the paper has 10% difficult qs and 25% moderate qs and the rest easy. This will ensure that the rural candidates score well in the entrance tests and also the meritorious are given their due.

how glad am I that this didnot occur during my time. I wud have never got into a decent college,

[harini9876]

The Govt order was given yesterday. No respite for CBSE people. To crown it all if the students have the same date of birth then their ranking will be based on
lot system.

Since around 50% of the seats can be filled under management quota some people have started paying 6 lacs etc capitation (in the good colleges, though officially capitation is banned) 4 the seat of their choice.

i guess my whole B school education along with personal expenses will amount to around 6 lacs only.

Is it the same in other states too? Do people pay 6-7 odd lacs 4 a comp. Sci seat?

[mindsmith]

http://www.hindu.com/2005/06/11/stor...1107360100.htm

[srikrishnan]

Originally Posted by harini9876

The Govt order was given yesterday. No respite for CBSE people. To crown it all if the students have the same date of birth then their ranking will be based on
lot system.

Since around 50% of the seats can be filled under management quota some people have started paying 6 lacs etc capitation (in the good colleges though officially capitation is banned) 4 the seat of their choice.

i guess my whole B school education along with personal expenses will amount to around 6 lacs only.

Is it the same in other states too? Do people pay 6-7 odd lacs 4 a comp. Sci seat?

surely not in other states. but tn is considered to be the best in technical education thro' out india. so more and more people come here for tech education. they r able to dmand what they want

[harini9876]

But is TN really good for tech edu?. No doubt, the anna university papers and the syllabus are standard. But the faculty in most of the colleges r only B.E. In case of these so called good colleges, the faculty r at the most M.E or M. tech. There are very few colleges where the HODs hold a Ph.D. As a result, very few students (abt 30-40% come out of these colleges without any history of arrears)

There is hardly any research taking place too.For that matter some colleges donot have good lab facilities. Campus placements have improved thanks to the initiative of Anna univ. But still there r lots of students havent been placed.

Though E.Balagurusamy drew much flak 4 his style of functioning he did one good thing. As he was quite stern abt the lab and infrastructure issues, some colleges did improve their facilities.

Would it not be better 4 the govt to address the issues confronting the colleges instead of impulsively changing the pattern of exams?

Harini

[srikrishnan]

i agree with u that the s/m needs changing. but read what the top recruiters say. they say that engg out of tn are the most well equipped to take on a job when they are recruited into industry. the max no of placements in a year takes place mainly from tn. as far as arrears are concerned, who said that arrears had anything to do with lack of quality. yes the private colleges are very poor but plz get to know that other colleges are pathetic. look at satellites, community radios,foreign paper presentations etc etc and etc. u will be able to clearly see that we are way ahead of the rest of india excepting the IITs and BITS Pilani.arrears happen because the wrong children end up in the wrong environment. as it is the entrance exam was not good enough, the scraping of it will only lead to further dilution. the solution may well be to have an IIT type entrance exam. only the best students based on entrance exam marks must be able to gain entry to Anna University and not others on the basis of some dumb quota or 12th marks. The college education is good but just that the noose around these pathetic private colleges must be tighter and entrance exam must exist and it must be tougher. as far as Mr. Balaguruswamy goes, hats off to him. he had to stand against some money minded morons who wanted to dilute quality. too bad, he doesnt have one more term at the office.

[ckartik]

guys
I can understand ur feelings.Yaa even I got the shock of my life when i heard that even this year's TNPCEE stands void.

But there's no point arguing coz the decision is not taken by academicians but so called AMMA (????????????????????????) and the motive behind this is succinctly clear -"December 05 elections"

I was happy to hear that lottery tickets were banned in TN but now they ve started lottery system and to add insult to the injury that too in EDUCATION POLICY AND ADMISSIONS.Priority by means of lot(lottery reinvented) or DOB is the most muddle headed or knuckle headed decision i ve ever heard of that too in a process where this prob is very much likely to happen

Originally Posted by harini9876

Would it not be better 4 the govt to address the issues confronting the colleges instead of impulsively changing the pattern of exams?

Harini

So there s no point in we wasting out time on discussing such thing like.....what u have said above

in melancholy 4 the poor TN students
Kartik C

[harini9876]

true Karthick the decision to scrap TNPCEE was given keeping the elections in mind. That is why I termed it impulsive.

But it can be challenged in court as it has become a GO now. though it is going to cause more anceity and all that. Being from the CBSE and having gone thru its rigors I can not only sympathise but also identify with the CBSE students.

The state exams this year were so easy that anyone who had studied a bit cud score more than 98% .

Also think abt the plight of those few State board students who had prepared for IITJEE and scored moderate marks in the State exams but scored well in the TNPCEE.

Had this order been passed previously the CBSE students wud have been in a position to apply in other states. It is too late now and if they wish to get into a good college they wud have to pay enormous sums.

I am sure that the Madras HC/ Supreme Court will give everything a thought before it delivers its order.

Harini

[srikrishnan]

first and foremost, no-one has filed any case in court against the GO. so why should Madras HC and Supreme Court deliever any order. also did u hear that the CBSE all india topper according to the HINDU does not stand a chance of getting into Anna Univ or Medical colleges of the govt. my heart just bleeds. adding insult to injury, the state medical topper had appeared for improvement thro that Salem school or Rasipuram school. imagine that one day he is the topper and the next day, he does not even have a medical or engg seat. i really pity him.

Controversially yours
Srikrishnan

[ckartik]

Originally Posted by srikrishnan

first and foremost, no-one has filed any case in court against the GO. so why should Madras HC and Supreme Court deliever any order.

Dudes
Even I thought that there d b a stay for the new admission process this year.
But did no one file a case?That is a real pathetic situation then
Sri r u very sure about it??

There must b a lot of heartburns at the time of AU releasing the ranklist and by that time everything d have been over.
Goddamn shit,what the bloody academicians are doing.Are they dumb??
If u see the priority order a part of it is like this
Total
Maths
Physics
Chemistry

If total, maths and physics marks r the same then it goes without saying that chemistry mark shd also b the same.These fools dont know even this basic math behind it and how the **BLEEP** can they frame education policies and
edify the society
Controversies in the acme.....

luv
Kartik C