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Death punishment is fine or not in our Indian law - 03-05-2005, 03:49 PM

Everything have some good and some bad effect, form the once point of view if a decision is fine but the same decision is not fine form the other’s point of view. Form my point of view death punishment is fine, because it will reduce crimes and gives a message to criminals

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03-05-2005, 04:01 PM

Few things I wanna point out

1) Post such articles in the Chit-Chat section
2) use fonts readable by the naked eye
3) A coupla lines more in the first post wouldn't hurt and
4) Welcome to PG

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ps: a slightly related topic could be found here (Should rapists be given capital punishment?)


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03-05-2005, 04:06 PM

Death punishment in any case cannot reduce the crimes........

just as an example, in saudi arabia the punishment for theft is chopping ur hands 4m ur body.
but still those crimes do happen here.

In my view and by the live examples v have, increase in the punishment can never deter the crime........
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03-05-2005, 04:08 PM

no way...


life is sacred... should everyone be barbarians.... death penalty does not help. we have had it for so many years & the crime rate is still going up... not coming down...

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03-05-2005, 04:18 PM

abolishing the capital punishment is a big issue and is being raised a lot of times....but all said and done...how many countries in whole world had been able to abolish it...it's come out to be a small number.....when we see it in the context of India, this becomes even more diff. to eliminate this...let's look at the practical diff...India has a little number of overcrowded jails...the authorities struggle to keep the prisoners disciplined..and there had been instances of them fleeing.....if india abolishes the capital punishment, who can take the guarantee that all those serial killers, psychopaths, terrorists and serial rapist wont escape the prison and be a threat to already precariously placed indian society...........India cant afford to keep them in jail , arrange their foodings and lodging..when a considerable chunk of population is still facing starvation deaths
   
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abolishing the capital punishment is a big issue and is being raised a lot of times....but all said and done...how many countries in whole world had been able to abolish it...it's come out to be a small number.....when we see it in the context of India, this becomes even more diff. to eliminate this...let's look at the practical diff...India has a little number of overcrowded jails...the authorities struggle to keep the prisoners disciplined..and there had been instances of them fleeing.....if india abolishes the capital punishment, who can take the guarantee that all those serial killers, psychopaths, terrorists and serial rapist wont escape the prison and be a threat to already precariously placed indian society...........India cant afford to keep them in jail , arrange their foodings and lodging..when a considerable chunk of population is still facing starvation deaths
For starters,
84 countries have abolished death penalty for all crimes.
12 for all but exceptional crimes like war time.
24 have abolished it in practise. ie, the law is there but not a single sentence has been given since atleast 10 years.

Your suggestion is that our over crowded jails cannot take in any more no. of prisoners and hence the hardened criminal should be given the death penalty. But isnt it better that we make the running of these jails economically viable rather than executing. Honestly, not even a small fraction of the total no. of jail inmates are executed every year.
So, making the running profitable is one solution. eg. The central jail at Baroda was in the news some 3 years ago, when it had for the first time not only broken even, but had managed to even make some money by selling various handicrafts made by the inmates.

Also, as far as i am concerned death penalty shouldnt be completely abolished for all crimes. Our constitution, has defined death penalty to be given in cases in rarest of rare circumstances. Its not like the States where annually a few hundredpeople are executed.
I know that people will say that death pemalty impostiton hasnot brought about the decline in crime rates. The major reason, i would say, for increase in crime rates is also that our population is increasing. Believe it or not, death penalty does serve as a detterent to some extent. I would just like the imposition to be slightly stricter. (Remove one or two special cases. I wouldnt want to name this special case.)

Also, i feel we should move towards a more humane form of death penalty. Hanging by rope is fine so long as the rope is of optimum length. Slightly shorter length and the person will have a slow torturing death. And if the free fall is slightly long, then the head and the neck region, just skim off. So, a move toward the lethal injection should be made, as is the case in USA.

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03-05-2005, 05:34 PM

Fully Agreed with u Shalin....
Death penalty should not be completely done with...The only point is way death penalty is applicable.It should not be the case that for a crime one is awarded Death Penalty and for the same crime another is not given the death penalty.
And in certain cases it is necessary to set an example.In such cases death penalty is absouletly necessary.
Now giving a death penalty one must consider the various factors,like the wat all the dependants of the convicts are, the age factor., etc...
Now considering the type of death penalty,according to me it should of the type which gives the convict fastest and less painful freedom from his trauma.

Disclaimer:all this are personal Views...

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03-05-2005, 08:00 PM

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Also, i feel we should move towards a more humane form of death penalty. Hanging by rope is fine so long as the rope is of optimum length. Slightly shorter length and the person will have a slow torturing death. And if the free fall is slightly long, then the head and the neck region, just skim off. So, a move toward the lethal injection should be made, as is the case in USA.

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Gawd.... shalin where didya get that info from....? Criminals lurking on the PG or no.. but u sure wud have scared some members bud....

neways agree with u there.. even in case its been awarded its should be a humane way.. i guess lethal injections are not that bad.. bt electric chairs a strict no...

Also there are a number of prisioners waiting at a time on the Death Row in US... and they die a painful death each sec .. even though their process is under legal appeals and reviews with high echelons of law....

Also doing away with the death penalty is not correct.. though we would want to look at it humanly.... as there are cases of hardcore criminals or terrorists escaping the law in jails or by the slime of ransoms through some of their colleagues outside....

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03-05-2005, 08:02 PM

The problem is much bigger than giving the capital punishment.

If we talk in indian context, say if sm1 gets capital punishment, even than it is with 95% probability that i can say he wont be getting it.

Bcoz he wil fight for the case in higher court and then higher and so on upto the president..

The judiciary is too lethargic in india........
there have been cases in which the culprits had already spent their jail term, b4 actually getting the sentence......

The system is the problem in indian context...........


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