Why Should We Go Out And Vote!!!

[nikhilk1981]

so that no one casts a bogus vote on ur name

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by nikhilk1981

so that no one casts a bogus vote on ur name

valid and important point made there dude. the riggers wait till bout 4 pm , find out who all are gone for vacations in a particular building / havent voted in the day and then bogus vote


bous voting is not as hard as some people make it out to be - all u need is an identity card - here is the catch
the identity card can be a rail identity card made by pass holders . u can make one in 1 rupee without showing any documents . so anyone can be impersonated

[PRGKT]

Originally Posted by nikhilk1981

so that no one casts a bogus vote on ur name

There is a real disadvantage with this elec. voting system u know. In the old system, in case u dint wanna vote, u cud simply put the mark in between any two parties's emblem. So ur vote wont count and no other idiot can impersonate u.

[DJK]

Its amazing how human beings can just simply relinquish their right to vote. Maybe One vote by itself does or does not count...But in the larger scheme of things, we are talking of choosing the people who are going to make decisions that can govern EVERY aspect of our life. And that is a lot of power we are talking about...the power to change the way we live our lives, the power to use the money we give them in the form of taxes, tolls, the works...

Now there's a thought.. how do you feel about paying those innumerable number of taxes and its unaccountability?

*ponder*maybe I should start a poll on that.

regards
DJK

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by DJKrishkay

Its amazing how human beings can just simply relinquish their right to vote. Maybe One vote by itself does or does not count...But in the larger scheme of things, we are talking of choosing the people who are going to make decisions that can govern EVERY aspect of our life. And that is a lot of power we are talking about...the power to change the way we live our lives, the power to use the money we give them in the form of taxes, tolls, the works...

Now there's a thought.. how do you feel about paying those innumerable number of taxes and its unaccountability?

*ponder*maybe I should start a poll on that.

regards
DJK

Nice thought DJK
probably u thinking this way cos u are relatively new to democracy
most people here think they have seen too much of democracy and dont think their vote matters

[mailtabrez]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

forget the mudslinging thats going on , but i am actually faced with a deliima simiar to what dharam mentioned

say i have 2 canadies in my area - a and b
a is from party 1 and b is from party 2

now a has worked well in my area , has helped people is a better person than b , .

but his party 1 has an ideology that i dont identify with . rather the ideology of part2 is better, their manifesto is better , the reforms etc are better

so whom should one vote for .who should be given more importance - canadite or his party??

vote for the candidate buddy...as india does not hav a direct elction system...so ur vote to the candidate makes a lot of diff to the candidate winning..rather than to the party....its a diff story that that CANDIDATE winning adds one seat to his party..

p.s:i kno i am late in postin this...but still early for the VIDHAN SABHA elec of MAHARASHTRA

btw guys dont u ppl think the maharashtra govt shud hav opted DISSOLUTION n gone to polls too...i think its foolish wastin so much money all over again........AFAIR this LOK SABHA POLLS N the few VIDHAN SABHA polls of AP etc r costin INDIA 400crore...pls confirm this.these politicos

[Spiderman]

well thats political complications i guess
ncp- congress does not want to mingle state politics with lok sabha . and they are justified in doing this actual time for vidhan sabha polls as well as lok sabha polls is december . vajpayee wanted to cash in on india shining and he is justified in that . but just becoz they are doing it doesnt mean that the DF combine has to do it

[MvB ACM No9]

Originally Posted by mailtabrez

vote for the candidate buddy...as india does not hav a direct elction system...so ur vote to the candidate makes a lot of diff to the candidate winning..rather than to the party....its a diff story that that CANDIDATE winning adds one seat to his party..

Very interesting point. I too believe that as long as we vote for parties rather than candidates, we shall never have the right to question why there is a criminal representing our constituency, why there is no development etc. etc.

But on the flip side, what if the candidate's party leader is either:
a. Not yet decided
b. Some1 I have no faith in
then what do I do? In this sense, I would prefer the American system. Elect your Prez and then your representative......would it work here? No idea. But the system in place today is a joke.

Mike

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by 74 and counting

In this sense, I would prefer the American system. Elect your Prez and then your representative......would it work here? No idea. But the system in place today is a joke.

Mike

hope u are not serious bout this mvb . cos i always believed that our democracy may teach a thing or two to others . this system has been adopted from the british form of parliament . if it works there so should it here

[MvB ACM No9]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

hope u are not serious bout this mvb . cos i always believed that our democracy may teach a thing or two to others . this system has been adopted from the british form of parliament . if it works there so should it here

Yes Gary, I am indeed serious about that. Tell me, can you answer the query I raised? About the mismatch between the local MP and the PM? I, for one, can't. As far as the British system is concerned, our situation is too too different. The illiteracy, the backwardness, the total lack of information and awareness in the hinterlands.

The moment you split the elections for the leader and the representative, first things first, the majority will be happy with the leader. It's not like the Congress alliance comes to power and suddenly decides that Laloo or Mulayam, being pivotal in their calculations will be PM. In this system, that is immensely possible......how else could a Deve Gowda have become PM??? Was he voted for that?

Also, then let's say you want Vajpayee as your PM but feel that Sunil Dutt is better for your constituency. You can have that!! Also, it will dramatically increase the work the MP will do in the constituency! He will no longer be able to rely on the fact that since you want his party to win, you will vote for him. So, everything will be issue-based, like in the US, you have several bills which are co-sponsored by 2 guys, a Democrat and a Republican! Because they think alike on that issue. Would you ever see that in India?

Think over it! I may have missed out something, but I do honestly think this system is too flawed to be successful. What's the point of an election where I don't know who will be leading the country at the end of the day?????

Cheers!
Mike