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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 22-05-2008, 04:26 PM

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thats what i am saying our growth has been largly due to youngsters and mostly due to credit available at cheaper rates ... But soner than later these people will realise value of money and then all this mindless exp is cut.

i mean once or twice pizahut/barista jana theek hai but every 3rd day
petrol prices to rise 5rs soon ,lesser payhikes unlike 30% in past 3 yrs tings shd be back 2 normal.
   
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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 05-08-2008, 06:40 PM

SC said today

Even God cannot save this country: SC


Even God cannot save this country: SC


August 05, 2008 18:14 IST
"Even God will not be able to save this country," a fuming Supreme Court on Tuesday said while slamming the government for its refusal to amend the law for launching criminal prosecution against those who illegally occupy official houses.
"We are fed up with this government," the apex court said, adding, "They don't have the guts to differ with the opinion of the clerks."
"Even God will not be able to save this country. In India even if God comes down, he cannot change our country. Our country's character has gone. We are helpless," a bench of Justices B N Aggrawal and G S Singhvi said.
The apex court said PILs are being filed before it by people who are vexed with the approach of the government on various issues.
"You complain about judicial activism when you are in power. When you are not in power you come to us for remedy," the bench said.
The bench gave vent to its anger as Additional Solicitor General Amarender Saran bluntly told the court that the Centre had decided not to amend Section 441 IPC (criminal trespass) for prosecuting squatters of Government accommodation in the country.
The government took the stance that the existing provisions provided under the Public Premises Act was sufficient to evict those unlawfully occupying government accommodation.
Moreover, it claimed that out of 99,100 government houses only 300-odd dwellings were under unauthorised occupation for which had been made to evict them. But this did not satisfy the apex court which said the Government does not have the guts to take on the offenders
   
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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 05-08-2008, 06:52 PM

The root cause of all the mentioned problems in the first page is lack of proper mechanism to evaluate the performance of the representatives regularly. Also nobody can dispute the fact that, we as Indians are more flexible, which in a way is causing a lot of damage. What I mean by saying flexibility is that it takes a very short time for us to get adjusted to change, be it power cuts, or water shortage, or even inflation..
The most disturbing factor is a person who slogs for years together to crack the toughest exam in the country, most of the times has to work under an illeterate with criminal background and is subject to his autorney.


The day when the government servents and the representatives start to fear the general public, we'll ram into the elite league of nations...


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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 05-08-2008, 06:54 PM

Another Piece of News to Validate SC verdicts..:

33 days, Jammu still burns- Hindustan Times

Its Pathetic to see petty regional politics being played out,can we ever get over this regional centric politics and think of India...In the end the looser in all this is the common man on the road...


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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 05-08-2008, 07:23 PM

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The day when the government servents and the representatives start to fear the general public, we'll ram into the elite league of nations...

we see elements killing innocent people for supari of 1000 rs

why cant these people start killing a politicians or 2 to spread terrors in their mind.

CIVIL WAR can only teach these netas a lesson

everybody fears for his life

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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 01-09-2008, 10:28 PM

"I presented my buffalo to the boatman in exchange for a place in his boat since I don't have any money," Shambhoo Yadav, a rescued villager said."

Yeah you guessed it right its a statement from a citizen from our very own country,its a statement from a villager from the flood affected region of Bihar.

Bihar is witnessing the worst flooding in nearly a century with millions stranded in cubecs of water and what is happening to help those is as usual according to Indian Standards-"help is on its way..".

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Three million displaced in Bihar floods | Top News | Reuters

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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 07-09-2008, 11:57 PM

I think we are providing solutions which are more case based than being generic.

A country is made by the people and the solutions being proposed are more of targetting the problem than the cause of the problems. Western countries have this concept called individualism where a person is not imposed by someone else to do something. Everyone does their own job and that's how the system works. Moreover there are few traits which are more evident in western cultures

1. High standards of living

If we adopt high standards towards everything then each one will work more to ensure it gets percolated in our everyday lives. The politicians will ensure that their people have high standards and the bosses will ensure the same.

2. Common sense

A general common sense in everyday living.

3. Consensus based approach to things
4. More focus on planning

Infrastructural problems wont be there if there was more planning and not rushing into things.

5. Keeping things simple

We Indians tend to complicate things a lot when the solution is right there in front of our eyes. We would propose a multi layered complex solution when a simple solution would work as well.

6. Think of the society first

This is very true. In western cultures they think of the society first. Everyone thinks that something they did should not harm the other person or affect the other person.

7. Sex is just sex...

8. Things have to flow from the top. These grassroot level activites are not going to get us anywhere.

These are just my observations and some thoughts.

Please comment or add on to these.

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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 08-09-2008, 12:47 AM

guys jus chill... I feel the answer to the question is right in front of us, right below our nose. We just need to see ourselves on a reflective surface and there it is, the solution for this much debated question. It is not the politicians who are creating every mess in this country, they dont do anything, it is we their followers who does it for them. And just to provocate us they dont have to be an incredible orator o somethin.... they just hav to know where the weak point of the audience is.... for a MUSLIM to be upheaved, just tell him about the cruelties of the HINDUS.... how they distroyed the mosques built by his forefathers. what they have done to him... what they are having in store for him.... And for a HINDU to be put on toes, u just need to tell him about the saints who are being killed by the so called Intruders, how they burn his counterparts.... its all the same with other communities too.... be it sikh, Cristian, parsi, dalits anyone.... It is "we" who listens to these fundementalists and blow the fire like anything....We just dont think before we act... had we thought and acted in the first place, there wouldnot be any Godra, any Mumabai blast any Orissa clash anything.... Guys we are lucky, I would say the most fortunate youth the country had ever seen.... Be grateful for wat u have and use it in the first place..... i am sorry am runnin out of battery....
   
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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 09-09-2008, 12:19 PM

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I dont disagree with the fact that population is a problem. I also agree that there are qualitative as well as quantitative factors to be considered. What I dont agree with is that we tend to blame population for most problems in India. A comparative analysis of states within India and also between India and its neighboring countries will tell that countries and states have done good for themselves despite having a huge population.

Let us take a example, that of northern states like Haryana, Punjab etc. These states generally have a small and stable population and enjoy a very good standard of living when compared to states like Bihar. These are also states with the highest rates of female infanticide and also abysmal level of education among women. The reasons for these are not population but social biases of the people of these states. Similar analysis can also be done between countries, which will prove that a huge population need not always mean corruption, bad levels of education, poverty etc.

I totally agree that a smaller population will always be easier to manage and hence will give better results on most parameters of development. What I have a problem with is blaming all our problem on population and then sitting behind and thinking of ways to tackle the population issue while the real causes of problems continue to be ignored. I think educating people will be a more effective method to control population rather than passing laws restricting the number of children a family can have. I also believe that focusing on socio-economic factors will help India tackle a wider range of issues than when focusing on population

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Population NO DOUBT is the biggest hurdle in India's development. You have 200 EDUCATED people competing for 1 job.. All 200 are educated but only one person gets the job. Rest 199, though educated, would not have the money to buy a good quality food also. How will the education help if it is not able to improve the standard of living of the people????

Population increases competition.. which in turn increases the Unemployment. And i guess an Increased Unemployment would only DECREASE the oppurtunities..

Soo many educated people due to frustation of not getting a proper job opt for illegal means to earn money.

Whats the use of educatin if we have ppl who are postgraduate but still end up having a Chai Shop.

U know what- The watchman of my building is MA. I still wonder why he spent even few hundred rupees over his education ( considering he studied in a government school other wise the amount would have been in thousands).. oh yes.. i guess it helps him in reading Addresses.. wow wat a fine usage of 24 years of studies.. bravo...

and u still say educating people is more important than controlling population !!!!

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Re: What Is The Problem With India ? - 12-09-2008, 04:56 PM

I am only answering cause I am kind of bored and have some time to kill or this would be one of the ignore posts.

You might want to read what I have written once again before you accuse me of anything else.

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Population NO DOUBT is the biggest hurdle in India's development. You have 200 EDUCATED people competing for 1 job.. All 200 are educated but only one person gets the job. Rest 199, though educated, would not have the money to buy a good quality food also. How will the education help if it is not able to improve the standard of living of the people????
If this is an opinion, I have no problem with it you can go ahead and believe whatever you want to. But I can think of a number of problems India has that is a bigger hurdle to Indias development than population. Like I said before, blaming population is the easiest way to skirt responsibility for bureaucrats and politicians. Though population is a big problem, countries which are even more densely populated than India have been able to deal with it and grow.

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Population increases competition.. which in turn increases the Unemployment. And i guess an Increased Unemployment would only DECREASE the oppurtunities..

Soo many educated people due to frustation of not getting a proper job opt for illegal means to earn money.
If you dont want to face competition aim to become a mime but dont blame competition for lack of a job. Competition does not create unemployment, if you have any evidence to the contrary then show it and I might buy the argument.

Indias unemployment rate is somewhere around 7% which is absolutely normal for a developing economy. Zimbabwe with a fraction of Indias population has an unemployment rate in the high 70%. That should be enough to tell you that population is not the prime reason for unemployment in any economy. I dont deny that population is a problem (just like I did not deny it in the post you quoted ) it is indeed a big problem but it does not mean that fixing our population "problem" will mean a fast growing India or a more developed India.


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U know what- The watchman of my building is MA. I still wonder why he spent even few hundred rupees over his education ( considering he studied in a government school other wise the amount would have been in thousands).. oh yes.. i guess it helps him in reading Addresses.. wow wat a fine usage of 24 years of studies.. bravo...

and u still say educating people is more important than controlling population !!!!
Would you prefer a watch men who cannot read addresses. Seriously though you either are lying/exaggerating or your society is very choosy about who they hire as a watchman. I am going to say it is the former. Moreover one example does not mean anything as for every example you give of an educated man being jobless I can give an example of a educated/uneducated man earning crores. Also I never prioritized education over population control as they both are huge problems and we have to tackle both.

Anyway my point was not that at all. I meant the more effective way of tackling population is to educate people about its effects than introducing laws which will be impossible to implement and also illegal under the constitution.

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