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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 28-04-2007, 12:47 PM

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Heard the Fox & the Sour grapes story..??
Our "decent" uncle reads in the page 3 stories & hears from the local rowdy boys that Ash looks really "Hot" & sensuous in Dhoom 2 & that there is a really amazing kissing scene in Dhoom 2 between Aish & Hrithik

So uncle decides to go check out the hot stuff himself...but he finds that all that our teens are jacking off to is just a smooch & aish doesn't even look half as good as she did when she was dancing in "Ishq kamina". Uncle is thoroughly disappointed...& he decides that since he didn't enjoy the movie(scene) its his duty to make sure that noone else does too

So our "decent" uncle goes to the local police uncle & lodges a complaint for "obscenity"... Don't get the drift... Our uncle jacks off to those great mallu(& its many dubbed versions) soft porn stuff as well as those with all the white chicks...never even thought of filing a complaint against those in his favourite videos...??

Moral : To keep our uncles quiet (or happy) show them the full thing, a mere smooch or minor exposure will leave them unsatisfied resulting in complaints & more cases in our adalat
What the hell are u saying
Dude the uncle never reported the film fr nt being decnt...
He reported it as it was nt Obscene enuff he didnt get to see anything that could "arise" his "emotions"........
He had heard frm those boys that Aish is looking hot and so he thot tht to cool herself she wud have taken her clothes off!!! but the moment he steps in and sees just a kiss he is totaly angry and decides to file a report....

Hope u got the drift of wat i meant....


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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 28-04-2007, 01:19 PM

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What the hell are u saying
Dude the uncle never reported the film fr nt being decnt...
He reported it as it was nt Obscene enuff he didnt get to see anything that could "arise" his "emotions"........
He had heard frm those boys that Aish is looking hot and so he thot tht to cool herself she wud have taken her clothes off!!! but the moment he steps in and sees just a kiss he is totaly angry and decides to file a report....

Hope u got the drift of wat i meant
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Of course... guys drifting on the same side of immorality & obscenity always get each others' drift..!!!
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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 28-04-2007, 01:52 PM

I feel that morality is a very vague topic today. Media continues to play with the definitions of morality according to its whims nd fancies. They just play up an episode if they feel that it will give them the required TRPs. I feel that morality is doing the right thing even when u know that noone's watching. Now how many of us would do that is debatable.
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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 28-04-2007, 10:37 PM

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1)Do you think that the act is immoral/obscene?
No. It is not. Media needs masala to keep their circulation. Politicians needs issue to fight and what better issue than this farce, just playing with public sentiments. Public also need some gossip ..typical indian public psyche!

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2)Does it deserve as much attention as media seems to have given it?
No.. Arre who cares how Gere kisses Shilpa... I am more interested in how i kiss my GF and vice versa...
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3)Are political parties justified in making a fuss over this issue?
Utter non sense... Stupid politicians dont have real issues to raise storm e.g. CTBT, LOC, Reservation etc. But shout at issues like this...Pity on our esteemed politicians...
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4)Who should have the right to decide what’s moral and what’s immoral?
Every individual has the right...No one else...
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5)Is it justified to file a legal case against Gere and Shilpa?
What crap... Why should one legal issue be filed...we have enough cases pending within our systems...Dont put extra pressure on our legal eagles!!
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6)Should politicians be playing the role of “moral-police”?
Why should they...who are they to decide what is good for us and bad for us??? Do you think i will follow them, how i behave with my friends or girls? More so when that girl has no issues herself..
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7) Can we have clear-cut distinction between what's moral and immoral? If yes, how?
Its not matter of moral or immoral rather i think its a matter of PDA(Public Display of Affection). Whether it was appropiate, or if was inappropiate , whether we should react or not? My take on this issue is, forget it yaar.. Why should we care, how they behave...We have enough issues at our hand... This 8-8 Job keeps me busy and i am left with no energy to think about such crap things which has no significance to me...


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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 29-04-2007, 05:40 PM

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ok now there is a new case,which will make u feel that richard gere arrest warrant is justified.
hrithik roshan n aishwarya rai have been summoned to the muzzafarabad court for having offended the sensibilities of the person who lodged the case.if u didnt get it,its a reference to the kiss scene from dhoom 2.now tell me,if they can be summoned for a film scene,then doesnt richard gere deserve an arrest warrant,as that was in public ?
wat i dont understand is,this guy knws that the movie has this scene,he watches it still,thinking that he may fulfil his fantasies (a decent way of putting u knw wat ),n then he claims his sensibilities have been hurt?
ROFLMAO
most probably he was disappointed by the scene,thats y he lodged the case..
LOL.. well said bombardier

tht pervert really found the kiss quite annoying n not-upto-the-mark

ask him where he was wen imraan hashmi was making a record of kisses in his movies?

Really ridiculous .. wat ppl do to get into the limielight.. "hurt his sensibilities" - my foot !!!

Is there an Act wherein the Court can decide which cases to take.. it will really improve the judiciary of the nation if Courts stay away from such senseless shit.. there are enough crime cases to fight..

The GIMP is equally to blame here.. they encourage such actionss and support them..


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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 02-05-2007, 10:23 AM

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Superhero had just returned from another hard day's work of planting mangroves, when he was greeted by a visibly flustered and almost palpitating Sidekick.

Sidekick: (with arms flapping in all directions) Sir, we have a crisis on our hands. It appears that there has been a wave of morally questionable acts performed by some of our country's big stars that has created an unholy ruckus in the nation.

Superhero: (slightly embarrassed) Look Sidekick, that tree was right in the corner and you know how much water I had drunk that day.

Sidekick: Sir, I was not referring to you releasing the undue pressure on your bladder on the side of the road on a crowded street. I was actually referring to the incidents involving Shilpa Shetty and Richard Gere, Aishwarya Rai and Hrithik Roshan and Mandira Bedi and her sari.

Superhero: Pfffttt….I would hardly call them big stars Sidekick. Well maybe the sari is quite a star.

Sidekick: That's not really the point, Sir. I was more concerned with what you are going to do about this situation, which has led to the cultural solidity of our nation being brought into doubt.

Superhero: Right. So here's what we do. We make a gun from sticks and chart paper. Load it with oranges and then fire them at the offenders.

Sidekick: I am not so sure that is the right way to go, Sir. You see, a lot of the country's educated public are in fact on the side of the celebrities and feel that they are being treated unfairly by the GIMP.

Superhero: The GIMP? Who the hell is that?

Sidekick: The GIMP, Sir, is a man who people rarely see, but pops his head up at opportune moments to try and conform our society into a way of living which 'he' thinks is in keeping with 'our' culture and values.

Superhero: I am confused sidekick. Who do we shoot? The 'big brother' girl and pals, or the GIMP? Perhaps we should find out which one of them is more vulnerable to oranges.

Sidekick: I am not so sure that shooting anyone is the solution, Sir. I think our prerogative should be to find out the exact intentions of the GIMP in his hostile attack on these incidents.

Superhero: Errr….right. So where do I find this GIMP? Does he live in a dark cave in the jungle or something?

Sidekick: I'm afraid that's wishful thinking, Sir. The GIMP lives very much in the city, in a tall glass building surrounded by a wall of Bullshit.

Superhero: Bullshit?

Sidekick: Did I say Bullshit, Sir? I meant stone. Sorry, my mistake.

Superhero: Ummm…..okay then. Give me the directions to the bullshit…err…I mean building, sidekick.

Sidekick: Get off at 'Fuddy-duddy station". Follow the squealing noise of whining communists. You will soon be greeted by the hustle and bustle of excited press reporters and journalists who are running helter-skelter in a fit of exuberance trying to get the latest on the GIMP's antics so that they can fill their papers with it. Move in the general direction of the reporters and you will see the building.

With not a second wasted, Superhero is off, ready for his confrontation with the mighty man they call the GIMP, no fear in his heart; only the sweet smell of success gracing his nostrils. He follows the directions to a tee, though he is slightly delayed at one point as the press do not seem to know where they are going, but eventually lands up at the gates of "Hypocrisy Manor'. He scales the wall of bullshit….o sorry….stone with consummate ease and makes his way to the main door.
Here, he is greeted by a group of five bleary eyed cross dressers.

CDs (in perfect unison): What do you want?

Superhero: I want to meet the GIMP.

CDs: Hah! The GIMP does not meet kids like you. What's the point? You are not eligible to vote.

Superhero: You do not understand. I am a Superhero and a protector of the people. I need to get to the bottom of all this hype that the GIMP has created.

CDs: The GIMP has already stated its opinions in a circulated and twisted manner through the mass media. Go read it, get confused and then eventually swallow it as a bible truth like the rest of the juntaa. Stop wasting our time.

Superhero: I am not here to swallow any trash that you are feeding me. I want to know exactly why the GIMP feels it is so necessary to keep the public in a state of constant prudishness where we jump at the chance to create a big hullabaloo at the smallest signs of modernity.

CDs: (gather round and murmur something amongst themselves) Kid, you are unnecessarily questioning the integrity of the GIMP and asking for extra information. This is against our nation's ideals of pseudo-democracy. Be gone now, and show not your sacrilegious face at the door of this holy shrine to our values of chastity and patriotism.

The cross dressers surround Superhero and glare at him. Superhero is once again cornered with no foreseeable escape route. At this point our brave hero has a stroke of genius, as is so typical of superheroes in tight spots. He pulls out a peacock feather from his pocket, that he had kept there as a souvenir from his visit to the zoo, and throws it in the direction of a nearby garbage can. He then looked mirthfully at the antagonized cross dressers and said " Isn't the peacock our national bird?". The cross dressers looked at each other, horrified and then ran towards the feather that was gently floating towards the garbage can, intent on saving this piece of national heritage from defamation. Superhero, thrilled to bits at the ingenuity of his trick, seized the opportunity, to run into the building. He ran up the stairs to the top floor where he was greeted by a large door of bullshit…..oh crap…I mean oak. The name on the door said "Mr. GIMP".

Stay tune to find out the details of the meeting with the GIMP in "Superhero and the GIMP (Part 2) "
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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 02-05-2007, 04:45 PM

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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 02-05-2007, 07:01 PM

I think such debates will never come to an end. What is moral,acceptable etc is all BS. Might is right. And as Manfriday said in one of his posts,what exactly is this Indian culture??We are not one homogeneous people.

In a rare exhibition of unity,people of all communities and political affiliations once got together to beat me up for kissing a pretty gal on the road.
What can I do if the girl shouts for help

If there is no use of force, it is fine in my opinion.But where do we draw a line on PDA?
Such questions on PDA ,nudity,orientation,sodomy,etc will never be answered.
Not even in the most medieval cultures where the hot debate among "Scholars" is whether the hijaab shud be till the palm or the entire arm may be exposed?Should the entire face be covered???

As I said, might is right.






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Re: Immorality & Obscenity: Politics & its and Social ramifications - 03-05-2007, 11:39 AM

Hello puys....gud to c that lotz of controversial stuff going on here....

Well! let us stop criticizing on the Gere-Shilpa issue for the time being aand concentrate on another controversial isuue....

MIKHA SINGH Vs RAKHI SAWANT.....if people here r thinking that Gere did a bad thing iin India by kissing shipa on her cheek....(paradoxically I also stepped up that, Gere did a bad thing...and now also I stick on to my decision that in INDIA kissing in public is a bad sign).....then wat 'bot MIKHA SINGH who indecently smooched RAKHI SAWANT....in a bar...is this right?

PS: Atleast Gere did the action for a noble cause...he did it in a inadvertent way.....on the other side....wat MIKHA SINGH did was definately an act of indecency in a affronted way....just to make fun.....

Wat happened to this case?

Is the Court sleeping?

What the hell is happening to the law in our country? C'mon guys....speak up............


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Re: What's "Immorality" and "Obscenity?:"Gere kissing Shilpa",and associated "Politic - 03-05-2007, 11:56 AM

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3. Ahh..Political parties...(Read ..Shiv Sena and others in this case) are the biggest frikkin hypocrites in India...When the same actress dances half-naked in a Bollywood movie..they watch and clap with their tounges out...But when she is involved in something like this (Poor girl...She didn't really expect Gere to do that way)....They'll burn her effigies and posters...
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Now where does the Sena come into picture?? catapult , before calling Sena a hypocrite party , check ur premises .... What development per se has happened in Mumbai for past 10 yrs when ur pet KingCong was in Power?? Mumbai is in Shambles today and there is only one party (infact even NCP) to be blamed for it ..... Don't get me started on this and beware !!! before calling the only party that cares for development a hypocrite

EDIT - My suggestion stop blaming right wing parties for everything the pseudo seculars are even worse .... they sit on the bloddy fence on issues where having an opinion is critical

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