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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 01:41 PM

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!!!Are u justifying it or saying it is the in thing?
What I did mean was that as there are witnesses who withdraw from the case, there are also witnesses who falsely claim that they have seen the person killing that one just because Police and Judges want to make the best possible money outta episode.


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I am sorry I cant put in any arguments.But I just hope people are reading this stuff.And hatred for Anonymous and Co. should not come in between.
Well, I was just countering Man_Friday's arguments and used his style of satire. I do not feel it is wrong in any way. And neither is my argument. It is a sad topic and I do not intend to make ppl laugh but isn't it very much possible that 7 Sleeping Men die when a Car running at 10 KPH runs over them.

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Well, I am no commie lover
There is a widespread contempt and apathy for the law of the land among the country's rich and influential.The spoilt brats flaunt this apathy. That the guardians of law kneel in front of the rich makes matters worst.

Many (once again not ALL) of them have grown up watching cops,lawyers,IT-customs officers,teachers,etc crawling in front of their rich parents.

Thus u have many such incidents. If anyone feels there is no truth to what I have said, just meet someone who is drunk on the power of his parents.
You are right and on point. But just tell me is this the right way to counter this brashness. Should you award them 10 years imprisonment when some others are not getting any on the same case.

The main reason for this has more to do with suckers who just try to flatter these Rich and Influentials. And also possibly a bad upbringing. And then society starts behaving like a bunch of cynics. They will suck the fingers of these rich scions for a favor but whenever given a chance, will try to stab them in back.

Under the circumstances, I wud not expect anything else from them. Besides, if they are proud of their dad's richness, it is easily understandable. An intelligent person is so proud of his intelligence that his behavior smells of arrogance. A beautiful lady treats every other person with a little disdain. Yet all of these are tolerated.

So why can't we just show the Rich guy his faults in a dignified manner than clamoring for his head. Also we can tolerate a little arrogance regarding wealth from his side. Can't we?



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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 02:38 PM

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That the kind of language u used in ur post is found in many Sunday papers is a different thing.


i am sorry but which Sunday papers use phrases like "stuck up his ass" or use examples that can only be called bordering on incest to try prove a point



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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 03:05 PM

Lest I get sued for not being active on the thread 24 hours a day, I have decided to update the discussion with some new revelations. The reason I was so sarcastic in the first post was to point out just how ludicrous the entire trial was. I did not intend to make it in to joke. The judiciary and the police have already done that for me. My point is further annunciated by the report in today's Trash :

It appears that there was in fact evidence available to prove that the driver was drunk. Lab tests had been conducted to prove the aforementioned. However the prosecution did not call the representative of the lab where the test was conducted to the stand, but instead asked a regular doctor from a local government hospital to testify.

Wait! Here's the best part. The said representative of the lab was sitting right there in the courtroom. I can only imagine one possible explanation for this. The forensic expert's as... (oops sorry posterior) was glued to the chair. The prosecution was trying hard to get the man to testify, but he just couldn't get up and was too embarassed to walk around with a chair stuck to his rear (It's fun coming up with new names for this body part ).

Another hilarious part of the Trash's report is the entire paragraph they dedicate to explaining that a bottle of Bacardi Rum contains alcohol which is "not a medicinal/ antiseptic/ toilet preparation, nor a flavouring material". Hahaha....thanks for the info Trash. Neways, that slightly ridiculous para was meant to bring to light the fact that a bottle of rum was found in the car. Surely enough circumstantial eveidence to prove drunk driving.

Neways the whole point of the original post was to vent frustration at the police and judiciary who are quite clearly pulling the wool over our eyes.

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What Crap?? Can you apply such numerical analysis here. Tomorrow if I go on a shooting spree, What punishment will you demand for me?? A 1000 years imprisonment to justify that human lives in India are worth more.


I think I would give you a 1000 years imprisonment just for taking everything so literally. Sometimes people exagerrate things for shock value to gain people's attention. (just kidding man....enjoy your replies)

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Kill Seven People - Dude!! A car going at 10 KPH can kill 10-11 people if not more and more so if they are sleeping and do not even take the pains to remove their bodies out of the line of fire.


Sounds like you've tried it. A car going at 10 kmph would slow down sufficiently after hitting one body to give the others a chance to get out the way. As for your allegations that the murdered purposely did not get out of the way, I don't think I need to say anything to prove the irrationality of that claim.

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And what difference it would have made had there any evidence that he was drunk.. He wud have been charged for drunk driving. And in that case, not for murder as he was not in his senses while driving.
I do not know what is the imprisonment for drunk driving, but surely it is not Life.
Never said anything about him getting life. It makes a difference if they could prove he was drunk as it then proves that he was being completely irresponsible and thus gives grounds to increase the sentence.

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maybe the post is not worthy enough of giving a coherent reply to . ever thought about that instead of assuming that people are "dumb" or "dont get it"
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insert "rolls eyes" smiley here . so just because i found your post terrible i did not get the point ? yes that makes sense
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amazing .
i found your post terrible and you immediately question my intelligence.
yes that has to be the explanation.
i am a dodo who needs stuffed animals to understand your superior post .
well atleast you dont lack in "self esteem"
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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 03:22 PM

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Fine Sanaa.....I will take you out to dinner. Just kidding
am glad . who would want a happy meal at McDonalds ?
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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 03:28 PM

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So why can't we just show the Rich guy his faults in a dignified manner than clamoring for his head. Also we can tolerate a little arrogance regarding wealth from his side. Can't we?



I agree with you .Many things in this post make sense to me.
Even I hate this trial by media thing.
But look at some of the cases.People's persistence has resulted in many high profile scoundrels being nailed after they almost slipped through our porous judiciary.

Perreira saheb can consider himself lucky cos our Radhiwalas are not organizing those UndieTV moments where people come out holding hands and candles to phight for justish and take the opinions of the random disturbed callers who pledge their support for the bereaved.

Things could have been different had Prawnie Roy's sidekicks decided to call up a few idle women (with Ushauttup bindis) and asked about the trauma this incident has caused them. They could have given scholastic opinions on where our society is headed.
In that case,God would have to rethink Perreira's innocence!

The point is what Man_Friday said in his first post.
Drunk on alcohol or power, 6 months is tooo less for 7 lives.
It simply defies all logic.U cant quantify mistakes/crime etc ,but there is some discrepancy in this!

Subodh-And at 10 km/hr,u have to be on a bulldozer to "
kill 10-11 people if not more" on Indian roads. Perreira saheb forgot that this is not some German highway.

And Perreira is not the answer to solving the problem of people occupying public spaces.







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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 03:42 PM

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am glad . who would want a happy meal at McDonalds ?
"who wouldn't...", you mean?

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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 03:45 PM

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"who wouldn't...", you mean?

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no. who would is correct. think and you'll get the answer.
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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 03:55 PM

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa[/size]!;752179]no. who would is correct. think and you'll get the answer.
In that case, using "happy" would have been better!isn't it?

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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 04:02 PM

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am glad . who would want a happy meal at McDonalds ?
Brilliant...thats all I will say...took some time to understand it, but

And thats what I call sarchasm....subtle but beautiful

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Re: Should Alistair Perreira have been given a harsher sentence in the Carter road ca - 19-04-2007, 04:35 PM

bombay HC takes up the case

HC takes charge of Pereira case : Alistair Pereira, High Court, hit-and-run : IBNLive.com : CNN-IBN

HC does a Jessica Lal, takes up Pereira case

but am not very excited that all the old cases be taken up by the judi. again


it gives them too much power n thats what corrupts

on the other hand they r the people who takes up cases in which negligence has been shown and better it

should they be doing it???:neutral:


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