[Pupil]

There has been excessive hoopla about male-dominated society, and quite understandably, from modern radical feminists of India. What is this male-dominated society where not a single man thinks so? Why only women harp about male-dominated society and men never? If at all it is a male-dominated society, then how come women make the rules and men have to protect and provide women? If it is a male-dominated society then how come women have always dominated men? It is the same deception women uses.

For centuries, men are fulfilling the obligation of protecting and providing for his family, which predominantly includes his dear wife. It has been taught to all men since childhood that he has to live his life for his family and not for himself. Repeatedly, all his sacrifice to keep his family happy has never been recognized or appreciated by the society for the basic fact that it is his inherent obligation, a liability that he has to comply for being a male gender in the country like India. He slogs all day only to see his family’s wishes come true and he never gets disappointed when the woman of the family takes all the credit of a happy family.

Male gender in the family is primarily about responsibilities and by-God he has never disappointed anybody for his courage and resilience. He happily fulfills the economic wishes of his family even when he is in great pain. Millions of men have worked in some of the most inhospitable location, done the most dangerous jobs, slogged under the scorching sun, never grumbled when he slept empty stomach; he is the epitome of responsibility and courage. The ability to face crisis, and stand against the torturous emotional weather is the mark of a man.

On the contrary, women have been so far successful in demeaning the man’s courage and the ability to shoulder responsibility by saying that women were oppressed by men for centuries. For all the sacrifice made by male-gender of the family to protect and provide women, this is what men get in return: humiliation and false allegations. Furthermore, only a woman who fails to respect her father would say that it’s a male-dominated society where women were always oppressed by men. It is a proven fact that a man’s life has always been more gruesome and torturous than women. And women have always been secure under the protection of men.

Indian society has never been a male-dominated society because men have always lived his life for the protection of women in the society. Even now. But now women have turned the tables. Now women want men to fulfill her desire, which has always been like this from the start, but now women have started refusing to accept slightest responsibility. Not only women want men to perform his duties but also want that women are making them do it or else they would again start oppressing women. Such humiliating allegations had been tolerated by the society only because they are women and men are expected to bear the responsibility of women.

The very belief system of protecting women stems from the attitude of men toward women. And now this belief system has been so manipulated by women that they have criminalized the whole male-gender to an extent that there is absolutely none to consider the plight of men in the society. This negative development has been encouraged by politicians for vote-banks and feministic media. Politicians believe that as long as they are getting the vote-bank and remain in power, the common man’s suffering should remain unnoticed. And this attitude of politicians has been cunningly exploited by women’s group to their advantage for encouraging all women to victimize men legally.

By sensitizing the society toward women, they are forcing the society to be insensitive toward men and this can be clearly seen in the way law and order treats men. The truth is that women were never the weaker gender. It was the religious obligation of men to protect women for which he will be awarded highest heaven. But now men have become the weaker gender, thanks to ungrateful women. Men are expected to protect women; women have always been protecting other women, now who will protect men? If this unfortunate condition of the society continues to treat men as criminals and women as victims, then women, in the long run, will suffer ten times more than men.

It is a highly precarious situation for men because he is constantly bombarded with his obligation toward women especially when there are no deserving women left. Now there is much more of women than meets the eye. Women have proved that they have an innate ability to destroy men. Women will soon be paying a very high price for torturing men in this way.

[Digital_Saint]

If a girl laughs, she is cheerful and if a boy does, he is mannerless.
If a girl talks sweetly, she is charming; if a boy does, he's a flirt.
If a girl shops, she is trendy; if a boy does, he's wasting money.
If a girl is silent, she is feeling sad; if a boy does, he's being rude.
If a girl walks in a group, it is a group; if a boy does, he's a gangster.
And then they say it's a man's world!

[warrior]

Originally Posted by Digital_Saint

If a girl laughs, she is cheerful and if a boy does, he is mannerless.
If a girl talks sweetly, she is charming; if a boy does, he's a flirt.
If a girl shops, she is trendy; if a boy does, he's wasting money.
If a girl is silent, she is feeling sad; if a boy does, he's being rude.
If a girl walks in a group, it is a group; if a boy does, he's a gangster.
And then they say it's a man's world!

this thread is so touching to innocent males
mera dil bhar aaya aur rone ka dil kar raha hai :lotsandlotsoftearsenoughtofloodPG:

[TECHNORENGIT]

Originally Posted by Digital_Saint

If a girl laughs, she is cheerful and if a boy does, he is mannerless.
If a girl talks sweetly, she is charming; if a boy does, he's a flirt.
If a girl shops, she is trendy; if a boy does, he's wasting money.
If a girl is silent, she is feeling sad; if a boy does, he's being rude.
If a girl walks in a group, it is a group; if a boy does, he's a gangster.
And then they say it's a man's world!

aree thhu tho genous hai bhai ..mere mooh ki baath cheen lee

[soumya_mty]

Originally Posted by Pupil

There has been excessive hoopla about male-dominated society, and quite understandably, from modern radical feminists of India. ... Women will soon be paying a very high price for torturing men in this way.

LOL!!! JOKE OF THE MILLENNIUM (the longest joke too)!...u have a very good sense of humour, i must say!...

ur not serious...are u?:neutral:

[Pupil]

“Never get in a mess with a woman.” This is the statement given by everybody, from a police officer to gangster, from politicians to a common man. This gender carries so much credibility that the society is forced to react on a slightest grumble of a woman. The society has assumed that they will be accused of hurting a woman if they don’t take the side of a woman even if they know that the woman’s complaint is baseless and unjustified.

Police are wary of reacting if a woman happens to commit a crime. There are innumerable cases where police officers were falsely accused of misbehaving with a woman even when the woman was the culprit. Police has to immediately take an action against a man whenever a woman is the accuser. Even when the police are aware that the woman is the main culprit and the man is innocent, they are compelled to arrest the innocent man. They are scared that their reluctance in registering a woman’s complaint and not arrested the accused might invite women organizations to their police station. Excise officers are cautious in raiding a factory because they have been falsely accused of molesting women employees in the past. And they know that a woman’s allegation always invite trouble even if it is a false allegation. Media are scared of taking a risk of publishing any article or news that exposes a woman’s crime. They are forced to publish articles that show women as victims and men as criminals and if they don’t do it, they face a severe public criticism from women organization.

Politicians too are unwilling to challenge women organization’s absurd legal proposals because they have been boycotted by women organizations which could be detrimental to their political stability. Ministers are careful not to give any statements that could invite rebuke from women organizations even if their statement is correct and justified. Men, in general, are careful not to get into trouble with a woman because they know that even if they are innocent and the woman is at fault, they will either get beaten up by the public or get arrested by the police. In offices too, seniors are careful in dealing with their female employees as they can easily disrupt the management by calling women’s cell and falsely accuse the seniors. Men are keeping their distance with female employees in submission because they could easily get fired if the female employee intends to falsely accuse them of sexual harassment. The legal system invariably passes judgments in favour of women even when she is at fault to avoid protests from women organizations.

In every field, women are expected to get special preferential treatment. Budget is prepared keeping in mind that they are obligated to keep women organizations happy or else they will be boycotted politically. Nobody messes around with women even if the woman is at fault. They are above the law, above the society and culture and very soon, they will be above God since they have already started preaching people that women were worshipped in the olden days. They can wear anything they want but they still expect the people to respect their dignity and modesty. They can sleep around with anybody, have one-night stand, get into adultery, but women organizations always force people to respect them.

This is the status of women in India. However, what we continuously hear from women organizations that women are the weaker gender and their status in the society is inferior. Really! It is one of the classic deceptions of the 21st century where women rein the whole nation but continue to be called the weaker gender. The whole nation is scared of women but still they say that they are living in a male-dominated society. There is none to challenge the deception these women are establishing in the country. They have deliberately maintained their position of calling themselves weaker gender in order to extract as much legal protective laws as possible to be in control of everything.

As long as you and I continue to tolerate this mass deception of women, their power will increase manifold which will easily strangulate our basic human rights. Now that their deception has been uncovered and exposed to the public knowledge, the people must react against it and reclaim their human rights. Considering the above condition of the country, no man would ever say that women are the weaker gender. Now men have become the weaker gender only because we are forced to assume that women are special and need protection. Now make your own choice. Accept and tolerate what you hear or fight for your rights and stop their feministic invasion. It is our social obligation and responsibility to stop this deception that is ruining our country and making the lives of people torturous. If we don’t do anything, then who will?

[soumya_mty]

Originally Posted by Pupil

As long as you and I continue to tolerate this mass deception of women, their power will increase manifold which will easily strangulate our basic human rights. ... Now men have become the weaker gender only because we are forced to assume that women are special and need protection. Now make your own choice. Accept and tolerate what you hear or fight for your rights and stop their feministic invasion. It is our social obligation and responsibility to stop this deception that is ruining our country and making the lives of people torturous. If we don’t do anything, then who will?

Clap Clap!...well said...u have just shown how patriarchy works...

...by false and preposterous claims that women are somehow really really dangerous and crafty creatures and hence should be kept at bay rather than being protected, so that males are not harmed in any way...the root cause of patriarchy is this deep-rooted insecurity of the male homo sapiens...not all, but most of them.

every law is subject to manipulation...just because for the first time there is a law wich actually seeks to protect women, already there is so much hullabaloo about it in the male community who feel it is unfair to them!....HA!...wat a joke!...

take the example of india........a baby girl is killed...she is not even given a chance to live her life...why?....cuz the stupid society makes rules that girls shudnt b allowed to work, girls shud only get married and take care of homes, girls shoudnt be independent, the girl's family must pay heavy dowry for getting married, then she must be harassed if she doesnt cough up that much dowry, etc. etc......AND THEN, that same stupid patriarchal society decides that girls are useless and hence, not desirable!...how pathetically ironical!!! IS THIS FAIR?....now cuz of the skewed sex ratio again girls are the sufferers cuz they are 'shared' between many brothers!.....girls from eatern-india are 'sold' at prices less than that for a cow to men in villages in the north-west who cannot find a bride for themselves!......how obnoxious! absolutely detestable!

it is girls who are forced into prostitution! not men!........women are also at risk regarding domestic violence!.....manyyy lower class women are mercilessly beaten up by their 'useless' drunkard husbands!.....AND U SAY THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH A LAW!....THAT SUCH A LAW IS DANGEROUS!.........

...now thankfully, things are changing for the better due to governmental legislations....girls belonging to the upper and upper middle class families are being given equal opportunites as boys, but still....the discrimination persists in our society...

now coming to ur point regarding misuse of the law.......understand this analogy.......a knife can be used by a surgeon to cure a human being, or it can also be misused by a criminal for homicide.......does that mean knives should be banned?...........
misuse of law or false allegation is itself a crime....and if the alleged violator is not guilty, and is proven not guilty, then he can counter sue the woman who falsely accused him.....every law also has its safeguard against misuse.....the DV law may hav a couple of loopholes but once they are closed.....u can live without any fear of women...so dont worry. ok.

[Uptowngal]

Originally Posted by soumya_mty

now coming to ur point regarding misuse of the law.......understand this analogy.......a knife can be used by a surgeon to cure a human being, or it can also be misused by a criminal for homicide.......does that mean knives should be banned?...........
misuse of law or false allegation is itself a crime....and if the alleged violator is not guilty, and is proven not guilty, then he can counter sue the woman who falsely accused him.....every law also has its safeguard against misuse.....the DV law may hav a couple of loopholes but once they are closed.....u can live without any fear of women...so dont worry. ok.

Cheers mate.I completely agree

[Pupil]

Originally Posted by soumya_mty

Clap Clap!...well said...u have just shown how patriarchy works...

...by false and preposterous claims that women are somehow really really dangerous and crafty creatures and hence should be kept at bay rather than being protected, so that males are not harmed in any way...the root cause of patriarchy is this deep-rooted insecurity of the male homo sapiens...not all, but most of them.

every law is subject to manipulation...just because for the first time there is a law wich actually seeks to protect women, already there is so much hullabaloo about it in the male community who feel it is unfair to them!....HA!...wat a joke!...

take the example of india........a baby girl is killed...she is not even given a chance to live her life...why?....cuz the stupid society makes rules that girls shudnt b allowed to work, girls shud only get married and take care of homes, girls shoudnt be independent, the girl's family must pay heavy dowry for getting married, then she must be harassed if she doesnt cough up that much dowry, etc. etc......AND THEN, that same stupid patriarchal society decides that girls are useless and hence, not desirable!...how pathetically ironical!!! IS THIS FAIR?....now cuz of the skewed sex ratio again girls are the sufferers cuz they are 'shared' between many brothers!.....girls from eatern-india are 'sold' at prices less than that for a cow to men in villages in the north-west who cannot find a bride for themselves!......how obnoxious! absolutely detestable!

it is girls who are forced into prostitution! not men!........women are also at risk regarding domestic violence!.....manyyy lower class women are mercilessly beaten up by their 'useless' drunkard husbands!.....AND U SAY THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH A LAW!....THAT SUCH A LAW IS DANGEROUS!.........

...now thankfully, things are changing for the better due to governmental legislations....girls belonging to the upper and upper middle class families are being given equal opportunites as boys, but still....the discrimination persists in our society...

now coming to ur point regarding misuse of the law.......understand this analogy.......a knife can be used by a surgeon to cure a human being, or it can also be misused by a criminal for homicide.......does that mean knives should be banned?...........
misuse of law or false allegation is itself a crime....and if the alleged violator is not guilty, and is proven not guilty, then he can counter sue the woman who falsely accused him.....every law also has its safeguard against misuse.....the DV law may hav a couple of loopholes but once they are closed.....u can live without any fear of women...so dont worry. ok.

Oh okay okay, so you want to discuss facts. Obviously you have written all this from hearsay and have no idea about the ground realities. I will explain. Not that I am interested to convince you, don't I have any constructive work to do instead of trying to make a woman understand?

For your kind information, you are criticising patriarchy without even realising that the traditional culture of protecting women stems from the beleif system of patriarchy. I don't care if you disagree because you need to. If you really want women's liberation then why do you want men to follow 14th century patriarchy system of protecting you? Society was and probably always revolve around the importance of a woman in the family. Therefore, protective laws are enacted following the patriarchy belief system but when these same laws are misused then they no longer remain only protective laws but a formidable weapon. According to you, you believe that men are the cause of all women's suffering then there should be absolutely no legal protection for men even if he is innocent. It seems it just doesn't make you happy to save an innocent man.

As far as sex ratio is concerned, you don't even know how it is computed. Econometrics model, based on predefined assumption, is used to compute the sex ratio, which is not more than a rough estimate and does not depict the reality. You love to generalise. Just because there are small number of female foeticide, you want all men to be blamed without even admitting that a male will always desire a daughter and a female will always desire a son. Arguing that sex ratio is less and so men are criminals, is absurd and only proves the male-hating attitude in you.

Prostitution! Search the data files of prostitution crimes and you will find that 70% of girls are forced into prostitution by women. Dowry! Lawyers, judges and police openly say that 90% of the cases filed under dowry harassment are false. Do some research and then talk to me.

Women are victims of domestic violence but not providing the protective laws for men too is wrong. Men too are victims of domestic violence and refusing to protect them reveals your intentions to strangulate men's rights. Protecting women from domestic violence is welcomed but why men are not included? Numbers don't matter in enactment of laws. And even if it does, then there is no social mechanism available for men to complain against his wife and so there are hardly any statistical proofs to prove that men are silently suffering in their own house. Men are brought up in your dear patriarchy system and that is why he refuses to complain about his own suffering and strives to protect women. And women like you are taking every possible advantage of this situation and at the same time criticize patriarchy to receive a clean chit from the society.

If you find loopholes in the law, then what are you waiting for? Raise your voice and demand that these loopholes be corrected before it is misused. No, you won't do that because you are convinced that all men are criminals and they don't deserve any protection. God forbid, if your own brother or male relative is falsely implicated under dowry harassment case or false domestic violence case, you will realise how helpless and defenseless men are in this society. All men are fearless of women because if they file a false complaint against the man, there is no way he can escape because when a man is accused by a woman, the legal tenet the judiciary follows is "guilty until proven innocent", which techinically violates the man's human rights. Imagine yourself to be in the position of a man in India who is under constant threat of being falsely accused and also there is none to protect him legally. You will understand that in order to protect women, men's human rights should not be sacrificed.

Dear, you are arguing with a wrong person. Somebody who doesn't know the truth will believe you blindly, not me. I don't care to convince you but I will also not accept your faulty understanding.

[warrior]

Originally Posted by soumya_mty

Clap Clap!...well said...u have just shown how patriarchy works...

...by false and preposterous claims that women are somehow really really dangerous and crafty creatures and hence should be kept at bay rather than being protected, so that males are not harmed in any way...the root cause of patriarchy is this deep-rooted insecurity of the male homo sapiens...not all, but most of them.

every law is subject to manipulation...just because for the first time there is a law wich actually seeks to protect women, already there is so much hullabaloo about it in the male community who feel it is unfair to them!....HA!...wat a joke!...

take the example of india........a baby girl is killed...she is not even given a chance to live her life...why?....cuz the stupid society makes rules that girls shudnt b allowed to work, girls shud only get married and take care of homes, girls shoudnt be independent, the girl's family must pay heavy dowry for getting married, then she must be harassed if she doesnt cough up that much dowry, etc. etc......AND THEN, that same stupid patriarchal society decides that girls are useless and hence, not desirable!...how pathetically ironical!!! IS THIS FAIR?....now cuz of the skewed sex ratio again girls are the sufferers cuz they are 'shared' between many brothers!.....girls from eatern-india are 'sold' at prices less than that for a cow to men in villages in the north-west who cannot find a bride for themselves!......how obnoxious! absolutely detestable!

it is girls who are forced into prostitution! not men!........women are also at risk regarding domestic violence!.....manyyy lower class women are mercilessly beaten up by their 'useless' drunkard husbands!.....AND U SAY THERE IS NO NEED FOR SUCH A LAW!....THAT SUCH A LAW IS DANGEROUS!.........

...now thankfully, things are changing for the better due to governmental legislations....girls belonging to the upper and upper middle class families are being given equal opportunites as boys, but still....the discrimination persists in our society...

now coming to ur point regarding misuse of the law.......understand this analogy.......a knife can be used by a surgeon to cure a human being, or it can also be misused by a criminal for homicide.......does that mean knives should be banned?...........
misuse of law or false allegation is itself a crime....and if the alleged violator is not guilty, and is proven not guilty, then he can counter sue the woman who falsely accused him.....every law also has its safeguard against misuse.....the DV law may hav a couple of loopholes but once they are closed.....u can live without any fear of women...so dont worry. ok.

accepted that these atrocities exist in society. But why all should be victimised and made to pay for the actions of few handful.

By bringing this law indian legialature is going against the philosophy on which it is based on "no innocent person should be punished, even if ten guilty people go scot-free."