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08-11-2006, 09:13 PM
“Papa, what happened, why are you crying?” An 8-year old boy, Vinay, asked his father, Amit. “Nothing beta, nothing” Amit sadly replied sitting on the sofa. Vinay held his father’s hand and began to pull and called, “Papa, papa.” “What beta?” Amit lovingly asked.
Vinay assertively asked pointing his little finger, “Did mummy scold you?” Amit held Vinay in his arms and hugged him and said, “No beta, it’s alright, there is nothing wrong….you are too young to understand, beta.” Vinay protested childishly, “No, I am not small.”
“You know papa, yesterday when mummy came to school to pick me up, I was playing with my friends and she came and twisted my ears and then I started crying” Vinay sadly said with one hand holding his ear. Vinay continued, “I don’t like mummy hurting me. I like you papa.” Amit eyes swelled with tears and hugged Vinay in his arms.
Pratibha, Amit’s wife came home that moment from the market with two bags full of her clothes and make-up accessories. Vinay jumped from the sofa and went straight to his mother and excitedly asked, “Mummy, mummy, what you got for me?”
Pratibha irritatingly replied, “First grow up and earn some money, then I will get something for you. Don’t just sit like a hippo at home like your father.” Vinay angrily went into his room.
“What the father and son was talking about? I am sure you must be stuffing his ear against me” Pratibha annoyingly said. Amit disappointedly replied, “Please, at least you can behave nicely with Vinay.”
“Shut up, mind your own business. Don’t teach me how to handle Vinay. I don’t want him to grow up like you” Pratibha angrily said.
Pratibha continued, “You and your mother are going to kill me one day. Your mother is doing nothing in the house, just lying on the bed like a sandbag. Lazy bitch!” Amit irritatingly replied, “Stop it Pratibha, she is a heart patient and doctors have told her not to do any work.”
“That’s all bullshit, that’s some conspiracy between you and your mother to harass me” Pratibha retorted.
Door bell rang and Pratibha got up to see who is at the door. It was their neighbour. Their neighbour, Peter, excitedly said, “Hi Pratibha, how are you? You see today is my son’s first birthday, so we are throwing a party at my place…and I just came to invite your family.”
Pratibha cheerfully replied with a grin, “Oh, that’s very good. But I have to ask my husband first. I don’t know about him but if he gives me permission, then only I will come.” Peter leaves with a smile requesting Pratibha to come.
Peter was impressed with Pratibha and called his wife and said, “See, Pratibha is such a dignified woman. She is an ideal housewife. And look at yourself, you always keep nagging me.”
Meanwhile Amit sat beside his mother and said, “Mummy”. His mother interrupts, “Beta, I am really sorry, I am responsible for your bad marriage. I don’t know how I will repent for my mistake.”
Amit held her hands and compassionately replied with tears in his eyes, “Mummy, it’s not your fault. I guess I must have done some bad deeds in my previous life. I am not worried about me, I will just ignore her nagging insults, but Vinay is maturing and he is beginning to notice his mother’s nature.”
His mummy thoughtfully said, “Don’t worry beta; just remember that Pratibha has lost her duties, but you don’t…because God is watching everything from up there. He knows your condition.”
Pratibha called angrily, “Amit, come here. What is happening? Don’t you have anything to do? And stop talking to your mother.” Amit came out from the bedroom and asked wearily, “Now what happened?”
“Listen, I have got some new clothes for myself and I don’t have any space to keep it. You go in there and remove your mother’s clothes from the closet and keep these new ones in there” Pratibha arrogantly said.
Amit frowned and asked, “What? Where do I keep my mother’s clothes then?” “That is not my problem, that’s your problem” Pratibha angrily replied.
There is no end to this story…………………………
(PS:You'll are like little kids to me. Not that I am so old, but you'll people are still living in a dream paradise. You'll have no idea what is happening around you and you'll are trying to massage your ego by making personal attacks at me. Women and men-libbers will continue to pamper their ego. It is obvious because you'll don't know me. Anyways, the above story is a real story of a close friend of mine. And mature people are free to judge it and women and men-libbers are free to mock, criticize and pass some sarcastic remarks. You'll make me laugh when you exhibit your tiny brainpower to me.)
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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? -
08-11-2006, 09:27 PM
@Pupil...
The correct end to that story...
was Divorce...
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08-11-2006, 09:34 PM
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@Pupil...
The correct end to that story...
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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? -
09-11-2006, 09:04 AM
@ Pupil
Your blog or the articles that you post from a particular blog (assuming its not yours) is targeted towards a certain audience who are vehemently and vociferously in support of bashing a certain section of the society. Some of the conversations in real life or virtual world with women that you have posted on that website is only aimed at condemning women as a race, in a very derogatory manner. Apparently every single post in every one of the blogs contain attacks on women. It seems that you are suffering from personal prejudice regarding a particular section of the society.
In my short stay in this forum, I have found that the most of the long term posters here, are extremely rational, knowledgeable members and hold a very balanced view on whatever topics they post on. And that is exactly why they do not find your personal prejudices to be quite acceptable.
I am afraid, you might not find such men in this forum with such high-handed viewpoints against women. I can see your surprise about the support the male sector of this message board is giving towards women. Even though some people may agree with you at a point of time, they do not support such offensive criticisms.
Wouldn't concur on the "dream paradise" thing, but yes, in this forum Men and Women have enough respect against each other's opinion. Debating and discussion here has never reached the platform of gender discrimination. And I would say, that members here consider the opinions of the post, and not the gender. Even though we all may disagree, but we still remain in harmony.
Something, which seems quite difficult for you to implement.
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09-11-2006, 12:35 PM
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@ Pupil
Your blog or the articles that you post from a particular blog (assuming its not yours) is targeted towards a certain audience who are vehemently and vociferously in support of bashing a certain section of the society. Some of the conversations in real life or virtual world with women that you have posted on that website is only aimed at condemning women as a race, in a very derogatory manner. Apparently every single post in every one of the blogs contain attacks on women. It seems that you are suffering from personal prejudice regarding a particular section of the society.
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Your comment was pathetically obvious and painfully predictable. Come on, you got to come up with something creative. When I am exposing bad women, not all women are bad, though, you thought, "Hey, let me just define this guy's thread as personal prejudice so that other members won't pay heed to his posts." I am not generalising anything because I am categorically saying that not all women are bad. But you are only trying to put words into my mouth that I am condemning all women as a race only to make other members think that I am a woman-hater, which isn't true. I am not attacking women. I am showing reality and if you are offended, which you are not supposed to, then it is your problem. As a matter of fact, you are suffering from personal prejudice. You just can't tolerate anybody saying bad things about bad women. Derogatory? That means, in your opinion, male-criminals should be respected as gentlemen because you think bad women should never be criticized or exposed. Thumbs down to your lame argument. Come up with something better missy.
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In my short stay in this forum, I have found that the most of the long term posters here, are extremely rational, knowledgeable members and hold a very balanced view on whatever topics they post on. And that is exactly why they do not find your personal prejudices to be quite acceptable/quote]
Obviously missy. How can you, as a woman, find any such posts exposing reality about some bad women out there? It is obviously unacceptable to you. I know it. I know your kind. First, are you the spokesperson of the members of this forum? Then who are you to speak on their behalf? Don't assume that each and every member is finding this post as some sort of personal prejudice. Keep your mindgames with your self only. Don't try to juggle with words to manipulate the readers.
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I am afraid, you might not find such men in this forum with such high-handed viewpoints against women. I can see your surprise about the support the male sector of this message board is giving towards women. Even though some people may agree with you at a point of time, they do not support such offensive criticisms. /quote]
You are still putting words into my mouth. I have never said that each and every woman is bad. But why are you getting so much troubled if people say bad about bad women?Why are you feeling uneasy when people criticize bad women? Is there something deceptive going on in your mind? Very likely. Besides I don't need any support, I am a one man army here. I have tackled thousands of people with your calibre (not praising you) all alone.
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Wouldn't concur on the "dream paradise" thing, but yes, in this forum Men and Women have enough respect against each other's opinion. Debating and discussion here has never reached the platform of gender discrimination. And I would say, that members here consider the opinions of the post, and not the gender. Even though we all may disagree, but we still remain in harmony.
Something, which seems quite difficult for you to implement.
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You are forcing me to believe that you enjoy assuming about people. You don't even know me. I have utmost respect for good women, not for bad women. And if you think thats gender discrimination, that shows how narrow-minded you are. How can you live with yourself anyway?
Anyways, that was a good try. You tried your best to stop me exposing bad women and also tried to distort the reality so that nobody in the members comes to know about bad women. You failed and you failed miserably. Go and mess around with people of your calibre. And that <snip> Soumya, is pampering herself by say 'no thanks' to every single posts of mine. Maybe it is inflating her ego.
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09-11-2006, 02:47 PM
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Derogatory? That means, in your opinion, male-criminals should be respected as gentlemen because you think bad women should never be criticized or exposed. Thumbs down to your lame argument. Come up with something better missy.
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Right, this isn't derogatory?
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Now you see guys, what these feminists are trying to do? And they call us misogynist when we fight for justice. What are they then? They are male-hating women who are determined to suck men's blood, legally
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Anyways, that was a good try. You tried your best to stop me exposing bad women and also tried to distort the reality so that nobody in the members comes to know about bad women. You failed and you failed miserably. Go and mess around with people of your calibre. And that <snip> Soumya, is pampering herself by say 'no thanks' to every single posts of mine. Maybe it is inflating her ego.
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Right, soumya's groans are inflating her ego. And your groan against my post isn't inflating your ego..it is something else? Keep your childish groans in your pocket.
You know, somebody actually complimented me on my driving today.
They left a little note on the windscreen, it said 'Parking Fine.' So that was nice
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09-11-2006, 05:24 PM
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Right, soumya's groans are inflating her ego. And your groan against my post isn't inflating your ego..it is something else? Keep your childish groans in your pocket.
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Oh come on, you are in a way saying to all other members to put their childish groans in their pocket. Soumya will think that you are indirectly telling her, too.
@Mahip- I do admit. I shouldn't have called Soumya with that name.
Apologies to Soumya.
Oh come on girls, you don't have to groan at this comment. This is ridiculous.
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09-11-2006, 05:32 PM
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Door bell rang and Pratibha got up to see who is at the door. It was their neighbour. Their neighbour, Peter, excitedly said, “Hi Pratibha, how are you? You see today is my son’s first birthday, so we are throwing a party at my place…and I just came to invite your family.”
Pratibha cheerfully replied with a grin, “Oh, that’s very good. But I have to ask my husband first. I don’t know about him but if he gives me permission, then only I will come.” Peter leaves with a smile requesting Pratibha to come.
Peter was impressed with Pratibha and called his wife and said, “See, Pratibha is such a dignified woman. She is an ideal housewife. And look at yourself, you always keep nagging me.”
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I hope Pupil will agree this is a extreme example, not Ghar Ghar ki Kahani.
Moreover, Peter getting impressed with Pratibha just cos she said I will ask mu husband first reeks of male- chauvinism. How many men ask their wives before planning a night out with their friends? They TELL/INFORM their wives, not ASK them.
Ok..coming back to the topic of discussion, Male Dominated Society - How true is the cliche.Let me give you few General and ever prevailing examples-
1> Daily scene in Mumbai local trains, Men clinging to the balcony seat( that is the name of the place where a grill sepeartes men and women compartments) and ogling, teasing and what not.
2> Working women cook food and do chores after reaching home. Men usually dont.
3> Daily scene in Delhi buses, women being manhadled.
4> Just compare the number of men who go for higher studies to women , am sure men will score by a huge margin.( will be helpful if someone can provide the numbers)
5> There are still women in India, whose sole purpose of life is to get trained and get married to a nice guy.I am yet to see a man who has this purpose in life.
6> How many women are called the head of family , even when the husband is alive and kicking? Why by default , men are the head of family?
7> Even today, in most of the colleges, Men Hostels do not have time limits.But Ladies Hostel have. In my engineering college days, LH was closed after 7 PM.Can you please enlighten me with any college which has reverse timings?
The above are few of the things.Show me different perspectives, then we will talk about Male Dominated Society is a cliche or not.
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09-11-2006, 06:06 PM
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I hope Pupil will agree this is a extreme example, not Ghar Ghar ki Kahani.
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Show me where have I written that this is happening in every single homes. Show me.
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Moreover, Peter getting impressed with Pratibha just cos she said I will ask mu husband first reeks of male- chauvinism. How many men ask their wives before planning a night out with their friends? They TELL/INFORM their wives, not ASK them.
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Male-chauvinism? Do you even know what male-chauvinism is? Men have to ask, not that they shouldn't be asking, men should ask their wife before planning for the night. But I will disagree that not a single man first ask his wife before planning the night. I agree not all of them ask, which I consider wrong. But, you can't generalise that no man is asking their wife before planning their night out with their friends. And many a times, even when they plan it and ask, the man has to cancel the plan when his wife refuses, and sometimes they don't cancel. Don't generalise, because I am not doing either.
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Ok..coming back to the topic of discussion, Male Dominated Society - How true is the cliche.Let me give you few General and ever prevailing examples-
1> Daily scene in Mumbai local trains, Men clinging to the balcony seat( that is the name of the place where a grill sepeartes men and women compartments) and ogling, teasing and what not.
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Daily scene in Mumbai local trains, (add this word "SOME") men. Not all men ogle and tease women next compartment. Yes, some loafers do that and I consider it as wrong. But you are saying that each and every men do that. That is bullshit.
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2> Working women cook food and do chores after reaching home. Men usually dont.
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Here again you generalised. Yes, I agree that there are few women who work as well as cook food, and I heartly respect them. But there are also men who cook when their wife is tired or not feeling well or for some other reason. Many a times the mother-in-law will assist the wife to cook food. There are also men who jointly cook food and enjoy the little time they can spend with each other. Don't be so negative. And there are also women (not all) who would watch saas bahu serials while their husband will cook. Don't generalise.
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3> Daily scene in Delhi buses, women being manhadled.
4> Just compare the number of men who go for higher studies to women , am sure men will score by a huge margin.( will be helpful if someone can provide the numbers)
5> There are still women in India, whose sole purpose of life is to get trained and get married to a nice guy.I am yet to see a man who has this purpose in life.
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I would really like to know that man who doesn't want to marry a nice girl. Seriously. Yes, men's primary goal is to settle in their career (First) for the obvious reasons but they too are forced to get married early like some parents force their daughters. For a man, the purpose of life is split between getting married to a nice girl and taking care of the family financially.
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6> How many women are called the head of family , even when the husband is alive and kicking? Why by default , men are the head of family?
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This is 21st century. Nobody believes in the head of the family. One who is right, is right.
This is the problem with feministic mentality. Some women want to call women as better than men. Why can't men and women be equal? There should be no head of the family, neither a male nor a female. Unfortunately, feminists want women to be the head of the family, by hook or by crook. In a marriage, husband and wife are both equal.
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7> Even today, in most of the colleges, Men Hostels do not have time limits.But Ladies Hostel have. In my engineering college days, LH was closed after 7 PM.Can you please enlighten me with any college which has reverse timings?
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My opinion is different. Yes, girls hostel should have time limits. And boys hostel too should have time limits. Girls and boys are equally at risk if they go outside in the night. It is not about freedom, it is about safety, and I would really like to see some time limits in boys hostels.
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The above are few of the things.Show me different perspectives, then we will talk about Male Dominated Society is a cliche or not.
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Why not? I am ready to talk with you. You know why, because you have nicely expressed your views without offending me like others in this forum.
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