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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 10-11-2006, 10:38 PM

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Women are free to join any profession they like. Men don't think like, 'hey, I will dominate this profession because women can't get into it'.
am not going to contest the other points raised by u coz i havent gone thru them yet, but there is something a glass ceiling in the world business, beyond which women are not generally allowed to rise in the ranks of the company even tho' the company professes a policy of equal opportunity. this is a well documented and proven fact in the field of management. and pls dont refute my point by quoting the exception of indira nooyi or carly fiona (who didnt last very long in her job)


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 11-11-2006, 12:30 AM

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I dont know if you do understand the purpose of a discussion forum, but when you do a post any topic or your views on a subject, it is pretty much implied that you are bound to be criticized regarding your viewpoints on any particular topic by those who don't agree with you. Deepti never patronized you. She criticized you by questioning your intentions. That too with necessary politeness and conviction. .
When I posted this topic, I knew it that lot of people are going to disagree. There is a difference between disagreeing and criticising me questioning my intentions. If you disagree putting forth your own views, I will make sure I will put forth my ow views in a polite manner. But if somebody is accusing me of being a woman-hater or trying to instigate a gender war or demeaning women, then I will not accept these false accusations. If you don't believe me, try it. Try to present your views opposing mine in a polite manner without questioning my intentions or slandering me, then I will show how polite I am. You also tried to accuse me that I am replying politely to men and rudely to women. That is so wrong and baseless. I have defended my intentions vehemently whenever somebody has criticized me as a person, irrespective of the gender. This gentleman over here name estranged has only presented his own views and I presented my views. It is all about sharing and not criticizing one's intentions or slandering.

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Although, the person who questioned your sexual preference, you just politely brushed him aside.
This chakrabirsingh has asked me whether I am gay in some previous post also. And I answered his question and he couldn't reply to it. I said, "If I have to think like chakrabirsingh, then I will jump to the conclusion that those women who are fighting for justice and rights, are all lesbians." He couldn't reply. And when he again popped his head back in the post, I preferred to ignore him. Get the facts right and then accuse.

Neena, I have nothing against you, but if you are against me as a person, then I am afraid, I will not remain polite.

@estranged - I really appreciate your suggestion. Thanks.
So you want me to answer the million-dollar question "What women think?"

Men, please listen up here.
1)Women are extremely simple and easy to understand. But they are sometimes insecure because they innately believe that men love them only for their body, which I think not all men do. Atleast I don't. In this process, women try to remain enigmatic and unpredictable so that they can hold a man's interest for a longer period. Men are freedom-lovers. Women want family and men want freedom. Women want ways to sustain the family, and men wants ways to enjoy his freedom. For women, spirituality is about taking care of her family. But for a man, spirituality is renouncing everything. Of course some men do remain in the family and live a detached life.
2)Yes, they could be extremely sacrificial and caring and sweet, and could also be erratic, irrational and stubborn. Sometimes they are not quite sure what they really want. They continue their search for perfection but never realise the true source of their disappointment. "Happiness-lies-within" is difficult for them to understand.
3)Women are not just patient, they are extra patient. Patient to a such an extent that it sometimes becomes unhealthy for them. And men, on the other hand, are very impatient. They want it and they want it now, or at least they want to confirm right now that they will get it.
4)Women don't 'always' go for looks. They prefer a man who treats them well. Women's desire to see the man praising her beauty and her nature never ends. Yes, it happens quite often that we see a beautiful pretty girl hanging out with a geek. Men, on the other hand, are experimentors. They are like adventurous wanderers. They like to try out different stuff but sometimes they forget what should never be tried.
5)Men can easily feel guilty. Women don't. Maybe upto a certain extent that is good considering the enormous physical strength that a man possesses. That guilt feeling controls his idea to misuse his strength. And many a times women misuse the guilt feeling of a man to get what she wants from the man.
6)Women live in the present. Men are able to juggle their life between past and future. Women are action-oriented and that is why they are good at multi-tasking, and men are thought-oriented and that is why they are more logical. Women make up with the lack of physical strength with excellent verbal skills. And men make up with the lack of verbal skills with excellent philosophical thinking.
7)Women cannot live without men, but its the man who can't resists to be with a woman. Men are more honest than women. It is somewhat easier to catch a man's lie than a woman's lie. Men have to learn to lie and manipulate. Women are naturals.
The culture is supposed to control the conduct of a woman. And a woman is supposed to control the conduct of a man. When the culture is lost, all control is lost, and that is what we are seeing right now. Now the culture is denounced. There is no control, no discipline and no virtue.

Please don't think that the above points have been copied from somewhere else. These are my own points and only a few of them from many.

I am hated by girls over here only because of their own perception. I am not that bad. Yes girls, you can still continue to slander me, criticize me, anything you want. I am sure some girls will try to disagree with the above points to remain enigmatic and unpredictable. You are free to disagree, and I am free to hold my views.


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 13-11-2006, 11:11 AM

Pupil - Two things in your post are totally uncalled for.

1. Your attack on Feminists
2. Your attack on me.

...And because you seem to be hijacking this thread and showing extreme immaturity, I'm outta here. No more posts from me on this thread.


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 13-11-2006, 12:26 PM

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Pupil - Two things in your post are totally uncalled for.

1. Your attack on Feminists
2. Your attack on me.

...And because you seem to be hijacking this thread and showing extreme immaturity, I'm outta here. No more posts from me on this thread.

Hey Deepti,
This isn't fair, okay. You can't leave like this. You got to teach me. I have learnt so many things from you and many other girls in here. You'll are my teachers. If you think I am immature, won't you educate me and teach me?
Please.

Oh my gosh, please don't consider this as a banter because it is not. I am sincerely asking you to remain in here and educate me.

Hope you don't misunderstand me.


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 13-11-2006, 01:16 PM

Am sure to get a few groans for this post! But what the heck!

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Pupil - Two things in your post are totally uncalled for.

1. Your attack on Feminists
2. Your attack on me.
I guess i been doing DI too much, but deepti, your first point covers up the second point!

Relax guys! Keep the fight on to the topic, not among your-selves!


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 14-11-2006, 10:39 PM

What was his fault?

Rekha lovingly said, “I can’t live without you Ajit”. “Neither can I” said Ajit. They sat under a large banyan tree having branches spread across the sky with birds chirping, making the ambience more romantic.

The whole area was lush with vegetables and fruit trees. Some people were seen riding on their well-decorated motorcycle on a far off narrow road under the scorching heat. There were few bullock carts carrying huge pile of dry grass moving precarious close to the edge of the narrow road.

Ajit said, “It would be so nice that time just stops here” while he was cuddling Rekha in his warm arms. Rekha thoughtfully replied looking at the rich branches of the banyan tree, “Yes Ajit, I don’t want anything to change. We should keep meeting like this.”

Ajit said after an hour, “Rekha, I think you should leave now, or else your parents will ask you questions.” Rekha hugged him and said, “I don’t want to leave you Ajit.” “No Rekha, I don’t want your parents to yell at you for coming late at home” Ajit empathically replied.

Rekha held his hand and walked through the dense forest of fruit trees and flipping the leaves of the branches that forked too low from the trees. Ajit said, “Okay, Rekha, your house is near, now you go your way, I will go my way. We don’t want anybody to see us like this.” Rekha said, “Okay Ajit, we will meet tomorrow.” And they parted.

Rekha reached home and became too anxious to meet Ajit again. She was getting restless and was not able to concentrate on her household work. Her mother used to scold her every now and then for her carelessness. Her father was possessive about her and wants to get her married to a rich man in the village.

Rekha met Ajit the next day on the outskirts of the village and cried, “Ajit, I don’t want to live like this. I want to live with you. You please take me away from here.” Ajit held her in his arms and consoled her to stop crying. Ajit said, “Rekha, I too love you very much. But, you are still a minor girl so I can’t get married to you.”

Rekha emphatically said, “Why can’t you? I am sixteen now and I can’t wait for two more years. And probably my parents will get me married to a rich man in the village very soon.” Ajit wearily replied, “What do you want me to do?”

“Let’s run away” Rekha intently said. Ajit didn’t want to hurt Rekha by declining her. He said, “Rekha, this is not the right way to get married. I will come and talk to your parents.” Rekha furiously said, “No, No, I know they won’t accept you. Why can’t you believe me?”

Ajit was in a great dilemma. He was working in a nearby factory as a machine operator but knew that running away and getting married isn’t a nice way to stay together. After persistent pressuring to run away from home, Ajit reluctantly agreed with Rekha.

One night Rekha sneaked through the backdoor of her house and went straight to the place where they usually meet, at the outskirts of the village. Ajit took her to a temple in another village and got married by paying some money to the temple priest.

Rekha’s parents filed a complaint at the village police station for their missing daughter. The cops made several inquiries at various places and found out where they were staying. The cops held Ajit and Rekha and brought them to the police station.

Rekha’s parents was enraged with Ajit and told the cops that they want to file a case against Ajit for kidnapping and raping Rekha. The cop said, “Don’t worry; everything will be taken care of.”

Ajit was convicted of kidnapping and raping a minor girl only because, as per laws, testimony of a minor girl is not to be considered material in the legal case.

Rekha married to a rich man in the village after a year.

Ajit was brutally tortured by the cops in the prison cell. He was hanged by his arms and was beaten with thick bamboo sticks on his backside, thighs and sometimes on his foot. He was forced to eat his own feces and drink cop’s urine. His life was ruined and he prayed to God everyday to help him commit suicide.


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 15-11-2006, 11:24 AM

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What was his fault?

Rekha married to a rich man in the village after a year.

Ajit was brutally tortured by the cops in the prison cell. He was hanged by his arms and was beaten with thick bamboo sticks on his backside, thighs and sometimes on his foot. He was forced to eat his own feces and drink cop’s urine. His life was ruined and he prayed to God everyday to help him commit suicide.
I am sorry Pupil.Did not know this.But please get rid of those feelings.Not all people you meet in the future will be like that.
And yes,we should get together and take some action against that urine therapy cop.





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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 15-11-2006, 03:50 PM

I guess these kinda stuff happen in vilages, and usually doesnt take place in cities. Correct me if am wrong. .

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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 16-11-2006, 12:21 PM

Men too are abused by Women

Emotional and physical abuse is believed to be only for women. Men are the abusers and women the victims. Do not women abuse men? Yes they do get abused and mercilessly. A woman can be brutal when it comes to blames and accusations. She can invent many lies and kill the soul of the man with every sentence she speaks. She may not abuse the man physically, but her emotional abuse may be enough to drive a man to lunacy.

I do not know why the abuse is considered to be prerogative of men? Is it because they are considered the stronger sex? What about emotional strength? Some men are very soft and especially when they deal with a woman, they act more softly. The woman wants to abuse the man will have no such compunctions. She can raise her voice, she can use crying, she can corner the man with all her blames because she wants to hurt him. She succeeds because a good man will not retaliate.

There is no help for men who get emotionally abused by women. They do not want to hurt the woman so they keep taking all the abuse. Let me add something here. Women on who their men have greatest faith do most abuse. So when the woman turns a abuser, the first reaction of the man is total disbelief. This surprise continues for a long time, because the man continues foolishly believing that her woman is getting it wrong. She is not abusing him. She cannot do that because she loves him. This thinking process is very dangerous. Evil recognizes no sexual difference. If a man can be evil, so can be a woman.


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Re: Male dominated Society: How true is the cliche? - 16-11-2006, 01:01 PM

@ Pupil

If you could also mention the links of newspaper articles where entities such as Renuka Chaudhury and others have mentioned such comments (which you have posted in several other threads), it would be very useful.


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They left a little note on the windscreen, it said 'Parking Fine.' So that was nice
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