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Originally Posted by pooza mishra
You know when I posted it here. I had too many thoughts. Was wondering if I should put it on my blog or even the political thread. But I feel pagalguy is the best place. We have an elite mass here. A responsible mass. The future here. Now if atleast 10% of the 50,000 pgites here give it a second thought and take some initiative, it would make such a huge difference. Dont you feel so? Let the thread be dumped even.. what would be better is if atleast some of us do something about it. Atleast think about it. It helps isnt it? I wanted to make it a sole issue of attention, thus the new thread. I am sure you can come out with some ideas. Some suggestions :smile:
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Well u r askin abt Suggestions, frm ppl , who from laste 100yrs, r still draggin the same 'old S*** style of living, supressing themselves with the fact "Ohh it dint happen" to any 1 in my family...y the Hell shud i b F****** bothered....
NO...i dnt c any reform hapening...b'coz v have all undermined r own ethos with wierd Protocols...which v all all abide, as the days pass...Thus the bottom end of the social spectrum tend to form the in itself largest part of the prison population.And we r the Proud Animals who r happy to b tagged and form a stupid group called "Society"
However Let me try to unravel the mysteries of the brain we have, whom v r expecting to Stand up...and wake his noise amidst all ##@@$$...
What is crime? ->For the population who's still unscathed
The answer is so obvious that we probably never stop to ask the question.
What is punishment?-> For those who have to show there diligent considerations which r jst mere wordzz
Again the answer is so obvious that it doesn't require thinking about - or does it?
The effect of crime and subsequent punishment.
Crime is a negative thing,i agree and evry one agrees to it, it is innately destructive -
at its most extreme it causes the lives of both the victim and the criminal[y is'nt he a human too] to be taken but even the least crimes lead to destructive results for both parties and for society in general.
Punishment and democracy.
Punishment is jst an adjective for me atleast with the law abiding members of most societies and when crime rises there is pressure on the legislature for more severe punishments. Are we conditioned by the media to see ever harsher punishments as some sort of panacea to cure crime? Yes!! i see the max in our country doin the same.....
Deterrence.
One can only be deterred if one thought about the consequences of the crime before committing it.and v r lucky enuf, tht God hasn't created so intellectual criminals who think on tht front, b4 commiting a Sin...It is also clear that those with most to loose are more likely to be deterred than those who have little or nothing to loose. It obviously didn't deter those who were punished, and neither it will....
Rehabilitation.-> will tht b of any help
Much emphasis is placed upon rehabilitation by prison reform groups and there is obviously a lot of sense in trying to rehabilitate prisoners to lead an honest and normal life upon release. Bt y is all this Drama being staged, wen v knw the truth tht
" Society does not either forgive or forget particularly awful crimes or Criminals, even if the latter is defunct with his earlier skin......"
Mad or bad - nature or nurture?
We still do not really know if people are born bad or if they become bad by virtue of their upbringing or lack of it. .Equally it seems that a lot of people commit minor offences because they can get away with it or because "its a laugh" or a means of obtaining easy money etc. These people could be classed as bad because they understand society's rules and their own actions but choose to disobey the rules for their own selfish ends.And they r the Major chunk of wht v have today called "Society"lets face it....they keep to the speed limit on roads where there are cameras and promptly speed up as soon as the risk of detection and punishment is passed.[ evry single human, i shud say, follows this norm]
Does punishment achieve anything?
The simple answer is NO. It is a self perpetuating con trick because we cannot or do not wish to find better solutions. The people will tinker with the laws, increasing the maximum sentence for this crime or that or introducing a new offence here or there but we know that it will have no effect other than probably to push up the cost to the tax payer and slightly increase the sum total of human misery.
So what can be done?
Ideally we need to identify ways of preventing people committing the crime in the first place.
Would better parenting and better education reduce criminality?
Should we place more emphasis on the teaching of right and wrong, personal responsibility and respect for the lives and property of others?
Would earlier identification of criminal and potential criminal behaviour and effective treatment of it bring real benefits?
Can technology make crime more difficult to commit and/or easier to detect?
Can we offer better psychiatric help to children and adults to help solve their personality problems and steer them away from crime?
So many to b answrd...bt still no answr...B'coz...v as a "Society" have always believed in Debating and cookin pointers on "wht can b done" !! "wht shdn't b done"...bt have v realised the fact tht, its the time to Do actually wht is supposed to b done...
All said , i dnt c myself comin bck for any more participation, rather leaving with a belief
tht Our Purposelessness is wht v need to get ourselves rid off.....
-Dilip-
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