Why Indian B schools Lag behind in Global Rankings ??

[monuguru]

Hi all,

Went through many rankings and the best possible place I could find for an indian b school was IIMA at 64th rank... Was heart breaking.. I feel that our schools deserves much more.
Or in case they lack so all please let me know where the flaw and how we can come on par with the best !!!!!


Regards
Mohit

[dhruvbhushan]

A few reasons why Indian B schools rank poorly in international surveys.

- The most important factor it the batch profile. Foreign (read US) B schools have a much more experience and diverse batch profile than Indian B Schools. Their average age is around 26 - 27 with the average experience being 4 - 5 years. This makes the graduates of these schools much more attractive to the corporate headhunters.
- Sometimes the infrastructure also plays a major role. Foreign B Schools have better infrastructure compared to most Indian B Schools.
- The batch size. Harvard has 900 students compared to IIM A having only 250.
- Global Perspective that the students have.

But don't get disheartened. IIMA is fast moving up the B School Ladder and has started the PGPX programme. Even ISB from this year is likely to take place in the rankings as the five year insulation period is almost over. So we can very well see some surprises in international B School Rankings this year on.

Bye

[DesiGuru]

Originally Posted by monuguru

Hi all,

Went through many rankings and the best possible place I could find for an indian b school was IIMA at 64th rank... Was heart breaking.. I feel that our schools deserves much more.
Or in case they lack so all please let me know where the flaw and how we can come on par with the best !!!!!


Regards
Mohit

India is 0.75% of world trade. Thats the first and last reason. Because it stalls all positive arguments for a case for our schools to be ranked higher. Though I think atleast one school should break into the top 25.

A country that is a loser cannot be thought of as producing winners consistently. Especially when the world is fully aware that the few winners exit the country at the first opportunity. Everyone is aware that the odd winner can come from anywhere. Unless india rises as a nation a bit more, even IIM A will be and should be considered as below the world's best. It can remain content that it is among Asia's best,till then...

K

[srikrishnan]

Originally Posted by DesiGuru

India is 0.75% of world trade. Thats the first and last reason. Because it stalls all positive arguments for a case for our schools to be ranked higher. Though I think atleast one school should break into the top 25.

A country that is a loser cannot be thought of as producing winners consistently. Especially when the world is fully aware that the few winners exit the country at the first opportunity. Everyone is aware that the odd winner can come from anywhere. Unless india rises as a nation a bit more, even IIM A will be and should be considered as below the world's best. It can remain content that it is among Asia's best,till then...

K

asia's best? i dont know. i thought Lahore Management School and Asian Business School and some Chinese b-school are ranked above IIMA. but seriously, can the world's finest schools produce students of the quality of IIMA. that i doubt. i think that IIM as opposed to IIT is famous because of the quality of the students rather than the insti. this is just my apprehension. if i am wrong, plz correct me.

[MrAnderson]

Originally Posted by srikrishnan

asia's best? i dont know. i thought Lahore Management School and Asian Business School and some Chinese b-school are ranked above IIMA. but seriously, can the world's finest schools produce students of the quality of IIMA. that i doubt. i think that IIM as opposed to IIT is famous because of the quality of the students rather than the insti. this is just my apprehension. if i am wrong, plz correct me.

Desiguru has quoted the Economist Intelligence Unit's global b-skool ranking..

http://mba.eiu.com

IIMA is rated the best in asia-pacific...
but to get a good overall picture..u shud look how it fared in the inividual criterions...

CriteriaRank (out of 100)Overall rank 64Open new career opportunities 1 Diversity of recruiters 40 Number in jobs three months after graduation 2 Jobs found through the careers service 1 Student assessment 2Personal development and educational experience 100 Faculty quality 50 Student quality 100 Student diversity 100 Education experience 29Increase in salary 100 Post-graduation salary n/a Final salary 100Potential to network 44 Breadth of alumni network 77 Internationalism of alumni 86 Alumni effectiveness 21

So the areas we lack in are..
Student quality ..i.e ...In terms of richness of experience,backgrounds etc...
lots of qa whizzes doesnt directly imply quality in terms of managemtn experience..Student diversity..50% of the students from iits..another 25% from recs/engg colleges...there are no foreign students,the backgrounds of students are also not very heterogenous..(blame it on cat ..to certain extent) ..
faculty quality...we again lack cos of no international faculty..u need big money to get foreign profs to even consider coming to ahmdabad and teaching..big problem...
final salary....disadvantage of being in india...even the foreign offers made are not in the level of some of the top int. b skools..
we r extremely gud in terms of education experience,student assessment (the students are real gud...(even if they lack in xperience))
I agree with Desiguru...most of these things...internationalisation of faculty,alumni..pay packages etc...have a direct relation to india's standing in international economy/trade
if we hv to be top ten...the country itself has to rise in stature ...
nother 20(10?) yrs...hmmm..lets see
andy.

[BaBu]

India is crap, though godmann sachs BRIC report is encouraging and india will improve.

Funny thing-IIM-A is really proud to be toughest business skool in world to get into. Shame on you IIM-A. 100 crore population-big mess, 1.5 laks aspirants and 350 seats in IIM-A.

[MrAnderson]

Originally Posted by BaBu

India is crap, though godmann sachs BRIC report is encouraging and india will improve.

Funny thing-IIM-A is really proud to be toughest business skool in world to get into. Shame on you IIM-A. 100 crore population-big mess, 1.5 laks aspirants and 350 seats in IIM-A.

India is crap ?...
so wht r u?? if every one starts thinking along these lines whr do u see this crappy country headed.If IIMA remains a island of excellence .lots of ppl hv put in their efforts ..in a country whr there is so much corruption/govt interference/ppl who hate development...
learn to value wht ur/wht u hv ..and think abt how u cud contribute to make it better..
b4 disparaging the country and its best managemnt institute...

added: Im amazed at how easily ppl can disown themselves... if ur born in a poor family,
leaving in a slum,uneducated parents ...do u just runaway and say ur family is crap...???
andy.

[13th]

its bcoz the mentality of the students.wat they really want once out of the B-school is a fat pay-package n thats it.
the B-schhols in india are not producing managers they r just giving out the MBA grads

[BaBu]

80% of IIT computer eng. guys leave the country directly straight after IIT.

i am positive abt increase in per capita income and better living conditions by 2050.

But rite now let me keep an eye on H 1B.You will also do same thing andy, once you pass out from b school.

[simple_aspirant]

That is okay BaBu if you have aspirations to settle outside India but even then you should not belittle your motherland and its top institute...