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14-05-2005, 04:25 PM

I was also attracted towards this thread coz of its topic But really speaking i dont understand why this queztion arises that why MBA? Everybody has a different taste, different way of looking at life, different ideas. I f you will go in search of a person who is exactly same as you, i guess u wont find him on this planet. So how can the answer of this question be same for everybody. n i dont understand why such non sense question is asked in interviews.
What if i want to get into a B school coz i just want to prove myself that yes i cam compete with you guys.
Whats wrong in pursuing mba coz my mom or my gf wants me to do that. copz thats what makes me happy.
Yes i understand i have some obligations towards society but i can fulfill in some other way too.
I guess u people understood my points
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19-05-2005, 02:46 PM

Hi,

Well, the seems to be some interesting discuzzion going on here..!!

I personally feel an MBA is better than a techie. I don't hold grudges for it and it is based solely on my decision on what I want to do in life..!!

IO am a software developer and i have been what they call the "THE OX WHO CARRIES THE LOAD". Whereas at the destination, the ox get its due credit by some additional food(read monetary gains in the lives of Software engineers), whereas the farmer gets the tip and the hullabaloo about being on time and doing his work well..!!

I have a managemnt bent of mind and that's the reason I m writing pro MBA here.. People may have different views and I do not challenge them. they are righ in their own accord. My only point here is that u shud make up ur mind on what u want to do in life..!!

If now, at teh age of 22-24 years, u do not know where u want to go, then forget it. Management is not for you..!! Coz I feel that if u cannot manage ur own life, u will never be able to manage organizations..!!

So decide where u want to be..!! the left side or the right side of the graph..!! At least decide once and for all y u want to be there..!!

But if u don't decide, u will be walking that line at 45degree angle. nothing will come of it but the going will be tough(as u will be walking an incline of 45 degrees..!!)


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19-05-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lakshya_iim_ahd
Hi,
I personally feel an MBA is better than a techie. I don't hold grudges for it and it is based solely on my decision on what I want to do in life..!!

IO am a software developer and i have been what they call the "THE OX WHO CARRIES THE LOAD". Whereas at the destination, the ox get its due credit by some additional food(read monetary gains in the lives of Software engineers), whereas the farmer gets the tip and the hullabaloo about being on time and doing his work well..!!
The italicised part begs for one correction. I feel its better if u say an MBA is better for me than being a techie. :-) It is ur personal opinion yes, but the fact is u have simple compared to lines of careers blatantly without mentioning the person taking up a career. an MBA is not absolutely better than a tech job or vice-versa...it depends on who u r. (Captain Obvious speaking)
As for the 2nd part of the quoted text above, Asif had talked abt performance based gains in certain companies. He'd also said that it does take time but sadly, for the majority of the ppls they do not like the job they are in and are not ready to wait out that time. Asif seems like the guy who likes his job....the entire tech side, to the rest who took up a tech job cuz they landed it in placements and for no other reason...every line of code typed will seem like a burden alright.


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am from Hyderabad.i want to work for couple of years before my MBA.most important reason is,as not being an IITian or NITian,i feel i wont be able to get into IIM as afresher,eventhough am the CAT topper & perform well in GD & int.
...and its disillusioned kids like this who make up the numbers in CAT. Dude, don't take up a job cuz u want to get into the IIMs, take it up for earning some money or partying properly... Sorry..had to say that...:-p But honestly, getting into an IIM as a fresher does not depend on whether u're from IIT or ITI. CAT is the greatest leveller for that reason, everyone gets their place in the sun... Man, if you are from hyderabad all u need to do is look around you...junta from engg. colleges here get into the IIMs...friggin' hell! What you've got there is sooo the wrong mindset and as you are from Hyderabad here I'm telling that u can make it, and if u really want it that bad ( i do now know nor am i particularly inclined to ur reasons) you can get it now. What you've posted is a myth at best.

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19-05-2005, 11:26 PM

i am 28 and have decided to go in for an mba now, espite being a doctor!! if you believe that we should know where we are headed by the time we are 22-24, you must lie in that age group...maturity comes only with age!
besides if you are so rigid now, how will you prepare for change later in life!!!
and to give due credit to software guys..doctors with 3 to 4 years of ex. get paid anything between 6 to 8 thousand a month...bet you cant beat that..talk about the ox carrying the load. the grass is always greener on the other side brother, dont let such myopic views guide you in your decisions for the future.
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Originally Posted by lakshya_iim_ahd
Hi,

Well, the seems to be some interesting discuzzion going on here..!!

I personally feel an MBA is better than a techie. I don't hold grudges for it and it is based solely on my decision on what I want to do in life..!!

IO am a software developer and i have been what they call the "THE OX WHO CARRIES THE LOAD". Whereas at the destination, the ox get its due credit by some additional food(read monetary gains in the lives of Software engineers), whereas the farmer gets the tip and the hullabaloo about being on time and doing his work well..!!

I have a managemnt bent of mind and that's the reason I m writing pro MBA here.. People may have different views and I do not challenge them. they are righ in their own accord. My only point here is that u shud make up ur mind on what u want to do in life..!!

If now, at teh age of 22-24 years, u do not know where u want to go, then forget it. Management is not for you..!! Coz I feel that if u cannot manage ur own life, u will never be able to manage organizations..!!

So decide where u want to be..!! the left side or the right side of the graph..!! At least decide once and for all y u want to be there..!!

But if u don't decide, u will be walking that line at 45degree angle. nothing will come of it but the going will be tough(as u will be walking an incline of 45 degrees..!!)


He who controls the present, controls the past.
He who controls the past, controls the future...

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Misconceptions - 20-05-2005, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by harry_hyd
i want to work for couple of years before my MBA.most important reason is,as not being an IITian or NITian,i feel i wont be able to get into IIM as afresher,eventhough am the CAT topper & perform well in GD & int.
while working i will be preparing for CAT & give a shot next year.if unsuccessful,again the next year until i get into IIM.
i want you guys to tell me what kind of job i should go for in the next 2 to 3 years which would be a plus point for my MBA in IIM & also form a good foundation for a management career ahead.
pls tell me.........
Listen dude, there seems to be a lot of misinformation passing around. I'll try to clear some matters
1. I'm not from any IIT or for that matter from any NIT / REC
2. I have zero workex
3. I have a drop after college and this was my second attempt
4. I am not CAT topper
5. I did reasonably well during the GDs and the PIs (check out the interview experiences posted in appropriate threads)
6. I did not believe in a lot of such disheartening stories
7. I converted all the calls that I had and am joining IIMA

Where u work, what institute u were an undergrad from, etc. might be factors to be considered for admission decisions (all that is said above and below represent my personal views of the admission process, and not necessarily those followed by/endorsed by the IIMs). But if you are smart, honest, clear with what you want to do, willing to work hard and learn, you'll get through.

Hope this helps.

...Hanoz


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20-05-2005, 09:41 AM

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i am 28 and have decided to go in for an mba now, espite being a doctor!! if you believe that we should know where we are headed by the time we are 22-24, you must lie in that age group...maturity comes only with age!
besides if you are so rigid now, how will you prepare for change later in life!!!
and to give due credit to software guys..doctors with 3 to 4 years of ex. get paid anything between 6 to 8 thousand a month...bet you cant beat that..talk about the ox carrying the load. the grass is always greener on the other side brother, dont let such myopic views guide you in your decisions for the future.
cheers and no offence meant!
Congrats to you and Hats off to your perseverance..!! being a doc and then trying for CAT. Way to go mate...!!

And talking abt being in the age grp of 22024 years(that's the average age of ppl giving teh CAT, ususally...!!) and also, if u had already decided that u were to be a doctor, there's nothing i can do abt it...!! Yeah, and going to CAT is great decision on ur part..!!

And talking abt rigidity, well who's being rigid..?? Just that one's gotta be sure which path in life one has to follow. Whether u r a techie or a manager, be very very clear what u want to do. Later on one shud not repent on one's decision. That's all what I was driving at..!!

MBA works for me, techie works for some1 else..!!
Also, agar sab log MBA karenge, to hard coding ka kaam kaun karega..??


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MBA v/s TECH. - 23-05-2005, 03:04 PM

Hello PG Junta,

First of all a very good discussion going on out here.......thought of adding in my inputs...

To start with , something about myself....i'm an elec-telecomm engg. from bombay, passd out in 2004.........thought of giving CAT and other Mba related exams a shot, failed in all.......although scored decent in SNAP<NMIMS, and MH_CET........


MBA v/s TECH.
to decide which to choose is basically to understand what satisfies you more, trust me easier said than done.

first of all one must think if one is inclined to deal with terminologies invoving omputer,informations regarding modern technology, or basically handling of some or the other operations and systems project. if yes then i guess you are likely to succeed in a job where you deal with technology......so even if you want to pursue further studies , you should opt for M.Tech...........this is a common scenario people face when they are confused about what to take.......my advice would be to not go with the flow but think on your strenghts and exceling in whatyou are best.

If on the other hand you are someone who likes to be involved in making investment decisions, someone who likes to be involved in organising company details, or even if someone is a highly socialisng and interactive person, then i belive MBA is an answer.........But what most people dont realise MBA is actually a personality enhancer and a grooming school which teaches you to master the task of multi- tasking.(I know most people will not agree with me on this).............


In regards of the all important money matter....again both are not really a sureshot money minting profiles...because honestly, people without either degrees are eqully likely to (in fact more likely to ) ahve a highly paying off job.


This mail could have gone on forever as there is no certain logic in describing which is better ..... i will leave it to the individual to decide on "what is that really pegs him on, makes him generate that extra bit of energy, spirit, and that PASSION which will give a satisfaction which everyone finally desire"



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To the problem of your life,
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Hi carelessperfectionist vbmenu_register("postmenu_225598", true); ,

I second ur opinion man. vwey well put, it's an individual's choice.

But there is one aspect to it. I have come across many people who want to be in technicalside. but somehwhere down the line, they want to shift their focus towards mangement, becoz they have had enuff. i have met quite a few of those type. No doubt, it's a great idea to do it that way as what u get is a management role which has lots of technical stuff thrown in. that way, one can understand the process better and come up with better solutions.

But there is also one other aspect. What's see is that people struggle for 10-12 years and then get into managerial roles. They have all the experience that they require.

But if u go via the MBA way, i.e. do ur MBA from a reputed institute, then u can cut the 10-12 years by less than half and reach the same position in say3-4 years. Of course, u do stand to lose out on the experience part of it. All that u gain is only at the financial part of the deal. So u r making more money at the cost of experience.

So at the end it boils down to what one's outlook towards life is like...!!

I am of course the management type of person and so I would speak in favour of management, but then there are always two sides to the same coin...!!


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a new take - 24-05-2005, 01:26 AM

i agree with the last too posts... my pagalometer might not look prety impressive..but i would like quote the CFO and COO of jumbo group(manu chabbria ring any bells!!!) " i consider an MBA as a finishing school for engineers" and a pretty senior person in bharati telco (my relative) " an mba doesnt matter, what matters is gumption... we could actualy select guys right after the cat"... i hope this clears a few things... what im trying to say here is that... maybe an mba doesnt add anything hard onto ur carrer but then again the peer group u have been with does create an impression on ur mind... the two years of grindin at the bschool does get u ready to sail the jet stream(read:corporate life) with elan. The network is important... as well as the course which adds onto a techie's pure alphanuemeric brain a few concepts (and to some lucky blokes: a whole lot more) of business.


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24-05-2005, 10:54 AM

good analysis i dont need an mba if i am a geek , i do all the hard work and salray is good, i can always become a consultant if i work hard. everything taken. buty this is a sftware centric information. I teel u why I need a MBA, I am satisfied from my job and will come back and join the same company, but i need mmmmmmba.

1) i dont know how to do cost analysis while indenting material worth 10 crores.

2) total material at a time in shop 12 crores, how to manage inventry for same.

3) if i need additional manpower , it is not like take a interviw and give an appointment letter , i have to follow atleast 100 acts, factroy act minimum wages act and what not and atleast i dont know much about them.

4) how to prepare a shop loading schedule

and there are many more things include excise sales tax custom and what not . i dont suppose my BE equip me for all this.

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