Important question to ponder upon...

[teesra banda]

Hi All...

I m raising here a very pertinent question and please dotn take it as a case of crying over spilled milk. Before posting i have discussed it beforehand with ARUN Sir

Actually i got 99.73% last year with 5 IIM calls and one final call from IIM. Now the irony is this that had to leave it due to some personal reasons. Thought of doing it this time but unluckily my health did me in.Took CAT in fever and so m too short of any IIM call infact even from SPJAIN etc....Now i hope u can guess my condition...was regular 99%ler in MOCK cats....

But i do want to bring one point ...I cud have joined IIM last year and wud have been from IIM..now this year i cant claim that...now the question to ponder upon is this that has this one year made me any less fit/worthy for IIM? Infact due to one year work ex i have gained immensely in terms on knowledge...So M i worse than last year ?????I have degraded in one year. Or m better off....but since m not getting any IIM call i think i m worse off....So....resting it on just one day is a big big fault.Anyone can have a bad day.Infact in this case GMAT is much better as one can take it again if someone has a bad day.

But this brings me to conclusion that all those guys sitting in SPJ, XLRI are in no way less than those in IIMs....M the EXAMPLE...i may make it to XLRI or SPJ this year or may not....

Hope u people have got my point and hope to receive ur viewpoints...

[ketanm]

Originally Posted by teesra banda @ Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:12 am

Hi All...

I m raising here a very pertinent question and please dotn take it as a case of crying over spilled milk. Before posting i have discussed it beforehand with ARUN Sir

Actually i got 99.73% last year with 5 IIM calls and one final call from IIM. Now the irony is this that had to leave it due to some personal reasons. Thought of doing it this time but unluckily my health did me in.Took CAT in fever and so m too short of any IIM call infact even from SPJAIN etc....Now i hope u can guess my condition...was regular 99%ler in MOCK cats....

But i do want to bring one point ...I cud have joined IIM last year and wud have been from IIM..now this year i cant claim that...now the question to ponder upon is this that has this one year made me any less fit/worthy for IIM? Infact due to one year work ex i have gained immensely in terms on knowledge...So M i worse than last year ?????I have degraded in one year. Or m better off....but since m not getting any IIM call i think i m worse off....So....resting it on just one day is a big big fault.Anyone can have a bad day.Infact in this case GMAT is much better as one can take it again if someone has a bad day.

But this brings me to conclusion that all those guys sitting in SPJ, XLRI are in no way less than those in IIMs....M the EXAMPLE...i may make it to XLRI or SPJ this year or may not....

Hope u people have got my point and hope to receive ur viewpoints...

I generally do NOT like to preach someone (especially a peer person).... but since you asked for it I would write my opinions....

I feel that you have an extremely "narrowed" approach to life.... It has been repeated umpteen times that CAT/IIMs ARE NOT THE END OF WORLD ........

You didnt joined IIM last year that must have been a concious decision...then why regret.... (if NOT regret then why even think twice about it).....If you would have sat idle for one year, even then I dont think you would have lost in terms of experience.... life is such that you experience every moment...be it BAD or GOOD....so rather than looking "behind" about what you lost ...look "ahead".... if you cannt get through IIMs/SPJIMR this year then would your life END....nope...If someone thinks that without an IIM tag i wont be able to make big then I think he needs a fresh approach to life.... just count on your fingers how many IIM alumnis have made it to the top in the Indian Business scenario (forget the international business).....Line up all the top business honchos of today's Indian business and tell me how many IIM passout are there....very few indeed.... you can find them in all levels of management but the top.....so ultimately its YOU with or without IIM tag that has to achieve what you aim for.....yes IIMs ofcourse provide you a steep learning curve...but its the drive within you....that will help you not only to get into IIM but also to sustain the IIM pressure and ultimately to make it big in the "real" life...so dont loose hope..and keep up that 'drive'.

HTH
Ketan

[buck_was]

Firstly, I sincerely feel sorry for u... I know how much it may b hurting u (n ur prospects)

I strongly agree with u...

In fact, u r bringing this up wen u urself went thru this... I too thought abt it some time back, tht sooo much importance is attached to tht single day... n wot if its ur bad day... or some extraneous factors affect u... some accident, sickness, or may be a trivial thing like ticketed by a traffic policeman... ppl may laugh, but even such matters may unsettle one's mind at the time s/he is gonna take / taking the test...

Anywayz, let bygones be bygones... ATB for the rest of the tests!

[kuk-du-ku]

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[pooran_pooran]

Hi teesra banda,

1) Be positive and make the best of what you have got.

2) Stop feeling miserable about what happened, just get out of it - a lot have got fever, sinusitis - bang on the day of CAT. I bet a few have been through things even worse on the days leading to CAT..like a cow chewing off their admit card . Now, seriously speaking, you can't do anything about factors like that. You have to take these in your stride.

3) Now, who told you that those in SPJ, XLRI are anyway less than those in IIMs? I suggest you get as far as possible from those making such comments and please don't ever take their esteemed opinion again ..whatever be their qualification. You have got 99.xx percentile last year - trust your intellect. Like Sehwag said, if there is a ball for hit, hit. If you get an opportunity in SPJ or XLRI, go for it. You can also think of GMAT and doing MBA through the premier institutes in Europe or the US.

-pooran

[billybolimeeaaaw]

first off all i really feel sorry for you teesra banda...
but then remember one thing: " Class is permanent, form is temporary"
guess v ve heard it a million times... but a good thing repeated is never a waste! My opinion is do not join SPJ or XLRI this time... by making this stmt i'm not doubting the quality of edu or placements in those insts. but then IIMs are IIMs jus like IITs are IITs!

[teesra banda]

Originally Posted by ketanm @ Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:56 am

I generally do NOT like to preach someone (especially a peer person).... but since you asked for it * I would write my opinions....

I feel that you have an extremely "narrowed" approach to life.... It has been repeated umpteen times that CAT/IIMs ARE NOT THE END OF WORLD ........

You didnt joined IIM last year that must have been a concious decision...then why regret.... (if NOT regret then why even think twice about it).....If you would have sat idle for one year, even then I dont think you would have lost in terms of experience.... life is such that you experience every moment...be it BAD or GOOD....so rather than looking "behind" about what you lost ...look "ahead".... if you cannt get through IIMs/SPJIMR this year then would your life END....nope...If someone thinks that without an IIM tag i wont be able to make big then I think he needs a fresh approach to life.... just count on your fingers how many IIM alumnis have made it to the top in the Indian Business scenario (forget the international business).....Line up all the top business honchos of today's Indian business and tell me how many IIM passout are there....very few indeed.... you can find them in all levels of management but the top.....so ultimately its YOU with or without IIM tag that has to achieve what you aim for.....yes IIMs ofcourse provide you a steep learning curve...but its the drive within you....that will help you not only to get into IIM but also to sustain the IIM pressure and ultimately to make it big in the "real" life...so dont loose hope..and keep up that 'drive'.

HTH
Ketan

Hi ketan,

Thats the point m trying to bring out, about the hype surrounding IIMs.Lots of people say its u who matter not the IIM tag.Thats very true when one thinks long term but we ( m talking about we youngsters) dont think in those terms.M just talking about the selection process which puts so much stress on just a single day and that too on just 2 hours.U can say most of the exams r of same type but therez a hell of diff between our regular exams and CAT.There we can sit idle for half hour ( like in engg exams) and still do it in time but thats not so in CAT....

Whereas i wil honestly admit that yes i do regret the decision but not much coz ultimately my life is in my hands and not into those of profesors at IIMs..

[teesra banda]

Originally Posted by buck_was @ Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:58 am

Firstly, I sincerely feel sorry for u... I know how much it may b hurting u (n ur prospects)

I strongly agree with u...

In fact, u r bringing this up wen u urself went thru this... I too thought abt it some time back, tht sooo much importance is attached to tht single day... n wot if its ur bad day... or some extraneous factors affect u... some accident, sickness, or may be a trivial thing like ticketed by a traffic policeman... ppl may laugh, but even such matters may unsettle one's mind at the time s/he is gonna take / taking the test...

Anywayz, let bygones be bygones... ATB for the rest of the tests!

Yep buddy...concentration is of prime importance in CAT n that can b broken by a trivial things as u mentioned....

Rightly said let bygones b bygones...

[newguy]

Originally Posted by kuk-du-ku @ Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:17 pm

Teesra banda,

It is all in our mind. You yourself have answers to most of your problems. Life definitely is strange. It is a mystery. You had some problems for which you could not get into IIM last year. I would like to tell you a very small story then it is upto you to decide. I too had made certain decisions in life and later felt cheated. The way you are feeling now because you feel you are not going to get any IIM calls. I had got this answer from a very sweet girl in a chat room. Whenever I am frustrated I go to a chat room and throw my problems on others. This is what she told me:

"When King Dasarath shot an arrow and Shravan Kumar died, his poor helpless parents cursed king dasaratha. They said that when he will die he wont have any son of his near him. King should have been upset. After all it is a curse. Too sad not to have any son near his death bed. But King was happy. Know why? Because he had no sons. He had prayed hard, done yagyans and everything but he couldnot have a son from any queen. But now if this curse has to come true, he will have sons first and only then does the question of being present or absent arrise. And rest is history. Lord Rama himself took birth as his son. Laxman and other sons were such great people." You yourself say that now you have work experience. If you are working already you can even take one more year to clear CAT. People are in worse condition too. Think of an ARTS graduate like me...No work nothing. And you have so many other exams coming up. I too strongly believe that having IIM tag does help initialy but then it is all you, you and you. If you are not a good performer your employer wont pay you just because you are from some IIM, but if you are a good peformer your employer wont pay you lesser just because you are not from some IIM. at the end it is you who matters, your work, your pottential that matters. Who knows getting into some other college may help you in some other way. So, just keep your options open and have faith in yourself.

Sayeisha

I wasn't so wise when I was 19 years old !

Each and every word written above is as true as it can get !

Teesra Banda,

There is a friend of mine who was my batchmate at Kgp. He got through MDI in the 2001 but didn't join becuase of this IIM thingie, you know ! but after realizing the truth of life, he finally joined SPJ this year ! And I am more than sure that he is gonna rock where ever he go ! Just because of the fact that he could not retain his poise in those 2 hours doesn't make him a lesser mortal ! It's your gray matter that matters !

All the best for your other exams !

[coolsurfer23in]

hey guys..

yep i wud agree with all of u.IIM is nt the end of the world and defiently not a parameter to judge ur intelligence or your competency..i strongly beielive that the slection process is academic oriented...

guys im sayin this for myself..though i knew i was intelligent and smart etc etc but i never got into books...and to add to it did major mistakes in my life due to which for a long long time didnt feel nice abt myself....but then i worked my way and figured out things but then even if had got a awesome percntile the IIM's and ilks wudnt even bother to take me in coz of my past acads..i dnt say that acads dnt play a role but then just coz someone did nething wrong..shud he get the punishment for his whole life..wat kind of justice is this...those with bad acads in the past but then they decided to change thier lives shudnt be given any chance?? are not worthy of becoming managers???

hey sorry guys i know i have gone off track but then cudnt help it...nt in a good mood today