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Re: Where do we stand for CAT 2004? - 27-09-2004, 11:25 PM

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Hi snan,bhars18,Stiffmaester,mandevian,psmith,mango,g aruda
Do post your scores.
It will help us gauge the credibility of these mocks/sims.
chk out the CAT 03 results thread.....

by and large manage a decent 92-98% in SIMs/ Mocks/ whtever....dont cry if u get less...stay cool...dont burnout....enjoy life and tht shud see ya thru

PS: i said enjoy life coz one dood i know was always in top 20 in IMS sims was so obsessed and bcame a zombie before CAT and screwed it up...


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Re: Where do we stand for CAT 2004? - 28-09-2004, 07:53 AM

I really wish at least some of the guys on PG who are already in the B-schools would respond here, otherwise we are only firing salvos in the air.
I think there are two different things being discussed on this thread. First, and this is how it began, is to gauge where we stand right now vis-a-via our scores in Mocks, and what kind of percentiles in these tests should one be getting to have a decent chance at the actual thing (considering that one doesn't do anything spectacularly stupid on the final day).
Second, it's not absolutely necessary that if you haven't done well, or have been inconsistent, in Mock tests you wouldn't get through. You shouldn't lose hope, should try different strategies, and hopefully you'll find the right combination by the 21st. But of course, practically speaking, if we get down to probability people in this category would have a lower one as compared to those who are doing well. But that's just probability, and there are exceptions all the time. Hell, I have seen people doing unexpectedly well, or equally unexpectedly badly, in JEE and it's a lot easier to do it in CAT.
I only hope that we get some answers in relation to the first issue mentioned here. That'll be really helpful. Can any one get the B-school guys to answer that?
   
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Re: Where do we stand for CAT 2004? - 28-09-2004, 09:55 AM

I dont quite agree to this luck wala funda.......Of course luck does play its part but only when the competiton is between equals.

There will always be examples of some guys who didnt prepare much and finally landed A/B/C/L calls but such cases are more of exceptions than a rule.

I consider it pretty improbable that people in the 85-90%ile bracket in the sims/mocks will end up beating the 99%ilers though there may be some isolated instances here and there......which means only one thing......guys like me have a lot of catching up to do
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Re: Where do we stand for CAT 2004? - 28-09-2004, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by arnavsinha @ Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:23 am
I really wish at least some of the guys on PG who are already in the B-schools would respond here, otherwise we are only firing salvos in the air.
I think there are two different things being discussed on this thread. First, and this is how it began, is to gauge where we stand right now vis-a-via our scores in Mocks, and what kind of percentiles in these tests should one be getting to have a decent chance at the actual thing (considering that one doesn't do anything spectacularly stupid on the final day).
Second, it's not absolutely necessary that if you haven't done well, or have been inconsistent, in Mock tests you wouldn't get through. You shouldn't lose hope, should try different strategies, and hopefully you'll find the right combination by the 21st. But of course, practically speaking, if we get down to probability people in this category would have a lower one as compared to those who are doing well. But that's just probability, and there are exceptions all the time. Hell, I have seen people doing unexpectedly well, or equally unexpectedly badly, in JEE and it's a lot easier to do it in CAT.
I only hope that we get some answers in relation to the first issue mentioned here. That'll be really helpful. Can any one get the B-school guys to answer that?
I really dont think that knowing how others did in CAT wud help ppl who r gonna appear for it.Mocks r meant for u to discover ur forte,for u to devise ur strategies and to get exposed to diff question types which one cud come across in CAT.
No two ppl r same on earth.Every person has his own strengths and weaknesses.So I wud say that instead of comparing with others one shud just concentrate on his prep and devise a clear strategy to crack CAT and get a good percentile.
[glow=coral:6e0bee1110]My Advice to all Fellow Aspirants wud b - Stop looking at others to judge where U stand.[/glow:6e0bee1110]


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28-09-2004, 11:38 AM

a one mark difference in the aimcat can drop your rank by 30-40(esp. if your score is in the 50-60 range); in the actual cat, this figure can swell up almost ten times...then where do you stand..
these threads are fun to read but dont really help in anyway...


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29-09-2004, 06:45 PM

An interesting thread!!

As the hackneyed phrase has it, Stats don’t lie!
An excellent analysis by vinayR....

Points, which will make this analysis even more interesting....

1. Nowadays most of the IITians and freshers from top engineering colleges join 1 coaching institute or the other, which drastically reduces the number of people managing a call without any mocks. (Keeping in mind most people working with TCS, INFY, CTS who sits for CAT also sits for mocks).

2. Now based on the above facts it is easy to assume that most of the people who are serious contenders for top slots sit for 1 of the mocks (be it from IMS,CL,PT,TIME or any other institute for that matter). Now adding all that people who generally appear for mocks would be around 65 thousand or thereabout which leaves around another 60 thousand junta of which most people are not serious(counting those ppl also who are registered with coaching institutes but harldly sit for mocks) about the exam at all and taking it just for the sake of it.

3. Based on the above assumption it’s easy to assume that your percentiles on the D-day are bound to improve. But the catch is the higher your percentiles the lesser the improvement. We can safely assume that junta scoring in 80s (percentile) in mocks would score around late 80s or early 90s. People scoring in 90-95 bracket consistently would score 95-97.5 on the D-day. But beyond that the chances of errors are more. I can bet my life on the fact that most of the junta who scored 98%+ in cat2k3 would have scored on an average higher than 95% in majority of the papers. And if this holds true for a skewed paper like cat2k3 (with such a huge bias towards VA-RC) then it would hold true for most standard papers

Now a note of caution: If CAT-04 comes up with some shock factor like an entire section on LR or some compulsory questions or questions having different wts. then the above logic won't hold. But even then most of the 98%+ junta would be comprised of people who have scored 90%+ in most of their mocks......

Most important thing which summarizes the entire topic of discussion:

A higher probability of an event happening doesn't necessarily mean that the event would happen

Hope the message is clear
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29-09-2004, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by THUSSU @ 28/9/2004
a one mark difference in the aimcat can drop your rank by 30-40(esp. if your score is in the 50-60 range); in the actual cat, this figure can swell up almost ten times...then where do you stand..
these threads are fun to read but dont really help in anyway...

i really agree with thussu.

and i also think that u cannot make out where do u stand now in cat by approximating ur rank in various sim and mock......so just study 10 hrs daily .............no meaning in these kind of comparision

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