[Calvin]

Guys,

There was a point mentioned by captivator that his friend did not learn much. Tell me in case you are in a service industry and in a maintaince project what is the actual scope of learning. You are not working on the technology front. The only skill that you improve is the coding skills. I would suspect that most of the guys working in the service companies, actually improve only their coding skills and nothing else...

May be after a few years of that coding and slog day in and day out, you also start improving your people managment skills too.. Apart from that I do not think these companies have much too offer.. Cannot blame since we are doing the dirty work of cleaning up the errors that was introduced by the guys... After a few years of work like this I am sure it would motivate anyone to change their line as it has not met their expectations...

Regarding the money, after 2-3 years money takes a back seat and job satisfactions becomes the fore runner...

There goes my 2 cents of gyan...

Amrit.

[arboreal_tarantula]

hmmmm. just an observation, without intending to ruffle any feathers, but from what i have seen, services companies folks are usually more intent on running away from software than ppl working in products companies.

[sivarama]

Originally Posted by captivator

so my question is that the guys who are entering the mba institutes after gathering a couple of years of workex in a s/w firm and specialising in systems do they have any other intention other than earning money??????

If money is what you ultimately wish to earn, then you could easily end up
getting a job at one of the software services companies in India. You get to
go overseas for atleast 3 months in an year as average in most of the companies.
Teams have rotation policy, where everyone would get chance to go overseas
and earn some money.

I have 4 years of work experience in India. I enjoy the technical work I do at my
work place. Still, I have opted for MBA throwing out 3 years of H1B contract offered
by my employer! So, if money was my concern I could have gone for that. In fact
I was ardently in need of finance at that moment. It's not sure that I would be able to earn so much after my MBA as much as I could have earned in these 3 years.
But, it's the LONG TERM benefits and Career Growth that I chose over money! Hope
there are lots of people in line with me!

[D e e p t i]

Originally Posted by arboreal_tarantula

hmmmm. just an observation, without intending to ruffle any feathers, but from what i have seen, services companies folks are usually more intent on running away from software than ppl working in products companies.

Now you are waiting for someone to ask "why?".
"Why?"

[arboreal_tarantula]

i have vague inklings of the probable reasons, but i wudnt know for sure since i havent worked in a service firm myself. i was just stating what i have observed. the rationale is open to interpretation

[THUSSU]

all successful candidates or those who are working hard for it will agree that without passion, you cant crack the exam. there is no two waya about it. besides, if you are passionate about getting in, you will be so once you are in and then for as long as you can sustain it!

[Gordon]

another obs:
if u know the job is going to b monotonous and boring ( like coding as some1 mentioned) why take up a course in software or comps at all??

i think th point captivator is making is tht many ppl (and i agree with him) is tht half of those appearing for mgmt. r there just bcoz being an engg+MBA is the current rage (or rather demand). For egs: will an engg. do marketing/fin/hr if he does not make it to bskool??? rather he will do a techie job and this proves tht mgmt. is not his passion but a reason to get away from his/her tech life.

GD

[PRGKT]

Originally Posted by Ghulam

Ghilli, it's not crime to earn money. But guess what, you can not tell this simple truth to the interview panel of a B-school.
They want people who have passion for management, and end up selecting people who can feign that kind of passion at that particular time.

I know that Ghulam, but if u look at the post, it is very clear that it is targeted at IT professionals. The purpose of making this post itself is not to discuss the answers to the "why MBA from software?" question, but to accuse the IT ppl of doing MBA only for money.

[ConfusedSoul]

Captivator:
after 2 and a half years they realise that they do not have sufficient knowledge to pursue higher studies in their domain . the obvious choice then becomes a job in the top indian software companies that are visiting their campus which have more or less made a global reputation of testing all possible nontechnical things ( and plz dont tell me that infosys is the only one which does that)

Woohoo....Getting a job in Indian software company two years back (when i graduated...2002) was not as easy as it is at this moment. And what makes u think that they conduct interviews only on nontechnical stuff??? Wake up!!! I remember some of the tests i wrote which had nothing but technical stuff....to quote a few...CISCO, ITTIUM, Motorola. And the nontech stuff they test is just to eliminate people, not just to recruit.

Captivator:
on the day of the interview he told me he has hardly gathered any knowledge during his working years ( he worked in CTS)

As someone mentioned, he might be working on a technology which he didnt like...it is the human tendency to just mention the bad points when they dont like something. And if he has not learnt anything, then how on earth is he going to learn in his life. i have improved a lot in softskills and how to work in a team and how to avoid conflicts...in one yr of my software industry exp.

My Question:
Is changing stream a big sin? If there were courses offered in the university which leads to dual degree of IT and management, I guess many people would have chosen that. In that way, atleast in my university, the education system was not flexible. As soon as u finish ur 12th std, how on earth will you know abt everything in software industry? u tend to think it sounds kool and safe....u go for it. Eventually u may like it or u might have done some stuff related to software and like it before. So if u dont like it, you dont want to change the stream? keep cribbing and continue in the same field?
About experience counting? Given 10 people to be managed, an experienced guy would obviously outdo the unexperienced one.

[grabel]

In a software industry, one typically doesnt get much of an 'experience'. Most of the job life is more or less like student life. You learn new technologies and languages, sit in front of a computer all day and code code and code.

I would say that experience gained by a person working in a traditional industry, managing the workers/staff under him is the real one. In my view that is the kind of experience suitable for MBA. Many of the good bschools abroad dont want just 'experience', they ask for managerial experience.

Have you ever thought of how come these software jobs can offer flexible working hours?? Why this thing is almost zero in traditional industries? Simply because everyone's job is his individual job in software...in traditional industry the job can be done only if all members are present. In software Working in Team is almost non-existent. Much like a college student life. Every guy has to study and do assignments on his own..( though in college all are given same assignments, in job they differ..so u cannot copy paste... ;-) )

Only thing they learn to is how to live in a company and talk to boss..

So saying that working in software gives a person very good experience for an MBA is not correct.. There might be software jobs which dont have such traits but most of the Indian software jobs are like that only.
regards
grabel