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Re: Prepare for Online CAT 2009 with Tanveer - 07-07-2009, 02:58 AM

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Small clarification , is CAT online 2009 available outside India ? Do we have any notification / update on this from any of the IIM's ?

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Re: Prepare for Online CAT 2009 with Tanveer - 07-07-2009, 11:05 AM

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Small clarification , is CAT online 2009 available outside India ? Do we have any notification / update on this from any of the IIM's ?

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There is no official announcement till now..
they said on 19th June to wait for a fortnight for further updates...

will be coming anytime now


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Re: Prepare for Online CAT 2009 with Tanveer - 07-07-2009, 11:10 AM

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There is no official announcement till now..
they said on 19th June to wait for a fortnight for further updates...

will be coming anytime now
Dude.. the update is already available on IIMA site...

http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/download/FAQ_1_July_2009.pdf

check it out... The official notification will be out in Aug.

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Re: Prepare for Online CAT 2009 with Tanveer - 07-07-2009, 02:09 PM

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Anyone have idea about books on speed mathematics??
I found many tutorials on net.......but i want them as pdf form......
If anyone have the link...plz post it here or send me as a private msg.

Pardon me if i am deviating from the topics being discussed in this thread...


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Re: Prepare for Online CAT 2009 with Tanveer - 07-07-2009, 03:47 PM

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Pls ..

Here's my story. I had enrolled with TIME for the long term classes last year though not very serious. In the 4 aimcats i took last year, got 88.2% and 10.1% in two and no result in the other two (time website stated i might not have marked the ovals properly). didn't appear for any other tests. took CAT 08 and got 91.1%.

right now, i'm waiting for last semester b.tech results with a job offer from a popular IT company. anyway, i wish to get into a good b.school this year.
as part of that, appeared for aimcat 0919. the scores are pathetic..

No. ________%ile_________ AIR __________Cutoffs not cleared
1019________52.31__________16255___________QA, VA, DI.

i believe i did lot better than these marks show. had not marked the answers on the question paper planning to take the test again on reaching home. i've history of darkening incorrect ovals on the OMR sheet a number of times during campus placement tests. so bit worried if thats the reason..

could u account for this lack of consistency?

You don't have to worry about darkening the circles incorrectly now as CAT is going Online this year so you need to check the radio button through Mouse but please check the right radio button :-) . But for rest of the exams like XLRI,JMET etc. you need to darken the circle so while taking the Mock CATs and darkening the circle don't do it in a hurry. Keep a cool mind and see if you are darkening the correct circle or not.After some practise this situation won't occur.....Best of luck for you Preparation
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help. - 07-07-2009, 04:14 PM

hello mates.

i am preparin for CAT 09. i want you guys to help me out with the problems i face in order to make it a fruitful exercise. and the problem is quant. in a nut shell, i would sum up the problem as:
i am not a strong contender for quants and this has inculcated in me the fear for the same. whenever i try to study any topic, after goin through the theory and formulae, i aint able to solve most of the questions from the exercise part. i have to go through the solutions for most of the questions in order to understand the solution. this worries me and makes me feel as a weak candidate for the exam. in shot, i get dejected and dont see myself amongst the reckoning. quant is giving me a bad sleep. i would be obliged to receive suggestions regarding the right approach and the proper way to nip the evil in the bud. in anticipation..

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Re: help. - 07-07-2009, 04:30 PM

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hello mates.

i am preparin for CAT 09. i want you guys to help me out with the problems i face in order to make it a fruitful exercise. and the problem is quant. in a nut shell, i would sum up the problem as:
i am not a strong contender for quants and this has inculcated in me the fear for the same. whenever i try to study any topic, after goin through the theory and formulae, i aint able to solve most of the questions from the exercise part. i have to go through the solutions for most of the questions in order to understand the solution. this worries me and makes me feel as a weak candidate for the exam. in shot, i get dejected and dont see myself amongst the reckoning. quant is giving me a bad sleep. i would be obliged to receive suggestions regarding the right approach and the proper way to nip the evil in the bud. in anticipation..

God bless you in every venture.
Hi Haris,

I guess the only solution to a problem like that is to deal with the issue in small steps.

If you are finding difficulty in solving CAT level sums ..I would suggest you get hold of some NCERT Class 9 and Class 10 Text Books for Maths and quickly zip through them to brush up your basics..

Once your basics are firmly in place you should be able to apply your knowledge to solve CAT level questions..

But do this quickly - time is runing out..

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Quant In CAT Is Not Pure Maths !!! - 07-07-2009, 06:21 PM

Quant In CAT Is Not Pure Maths !!!

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Oh my GOD! CAT did not test me even on a single Mathematics question that I had prepared throughout the year... Most of the questions were weird statements."

These are the words of Nitesh Bhargav, a CAT aspirant, immediately after the CAT was over last year. This statement can be an indicator of insufficient preparation or stress or lack of confidence or... But an in-depth analysis will make it clear that the only mistake Nitesh committed was that he confused his Mathematics preparation with CAT Quantitative preparation. So what is the difference and why is it that CAT pundits say that "CAT has no Mathematics, only Quantitative Techniques". Let us try to understand the difference between Mathematics and Quantitative techniques.

Mathematics is the science that deals with numbers, quantities, shapes, patterns, measurements, concepts related to them and their numerous relationships. It includes arithmetic, algebra, geometry, trigonometry, etc., where as quantitative techniques section in CAT is more of an application of the fundamental rules of mathematics in real life situations. The following illustration can help us understand the real facet of Quantitative techniques.

Suppose you watch a light flashing every 2 seconds, and another light flashing every 3 seconds, how would you calculate when the two lights would flash together? For someone devoid of the basic weapons of mathematics, this would be a labyrinth. But is it really? To unravel this enigma all we need to do is use simple logic. Let's see how - the first light flashes after an interval of every 2 seconds, this implies that it would flash at the intervals of 2, i.e., after 2 seconds, 4 seconds, 6 seconds, 8 seconds, and so on... Likewise, the second light will flash after 3 seconds, 6 seconds, 9 seconds, and so on... We, thus, observe that the two flash together after every 6 seconds. Now this is a direct application of a very simple concept the LCM, i.e., Least Common Multiple (LCM of 2 & 3 is 6), a concept which all of us have studied in our junior school. Obviously, as a CAT aspirant you won't be asked a direct question to calculate the LCM of 2 & 3. The questions would be application based, and therefore. be asked in a disguised manner. The real test is of one's analytical skills to fathom what is being asked. There are similar illustrations of most basic concepts, which we have studied till our Xth grade and these questions check our ability to apply the concepts, which we have learnt to real life situations.

One may ask as to why such questions in an MBA entrance. Very simply - because as a manager one must exhibit good decision making capabilities. Tomorrow you may be standing with the CEO of a big petroleum conglomerate on a highway and analyzing a situation where in hoardings of two rival companies are flashing and you have to take a decision to exhibit your hoarding after a certain time interval. So one should have the ability to apply his acquired knowledge in real life situations. Thus, CAT is not a test to judge your pure subject knowledge as opposed to pre-engineering / pre-medical entrance examinations, where the test is of your knowledge in core technical subjects, but CAT is a test of your inherent smartness. How smartly you pick some questions and more important how smartly you leave others.
Consider another illustration of a CAT question - "Deepak starts from A at 10.00 am at a speed of 45 km/hr and Sudhir starts from B at the same time at speed of 50 km/hr towards each other. They meet at 10.11 am but keep moving till they reach at ends (Deepak at B & Sudhir at A), then they turn back and keep moving. At what time do they meet again?" The solution to the question can be found by different methods but what matters is smartness.

Let us understand how this question will be cracked by a smart CAT aspirant. In this question, speed and distance are both irrelevant because the relative speed and the distance will stay constant, only time is variable. So if they have together covered some distance (whatever it may be) in 11 minutes, before the next meeting, they have to cover twice of that distance, requiring 11 x 2= 22 min. So they meet at 10.33 am. This takes less than a minute but the conventional way will be to find the distance with the help of relative speed and then find time, which will take more than 2 minutes.
Performance in CAT depends heavily on Quantitative Ability and it is not just CAT that needs good ability in Quant - any MBA entrance exam you take has its own share of Quant. Fortunately, the prescription is the same for all the exams - a good amount of practice with high quality questions.

Most of us tend to forget the concepts we have studied till Xth. So the real preparation starts with concept building. Once thorough with the concepts or the accuracy part, start
working on your speed. Even when you are practicing at home, do questions in a stipulated time period. You may start by allotting 2 min/question, and than gradually reducing time to 1 min/question and so on.
Preparation for CAT is an eye-opener for oneself. So many myths and prejudices about oneself just whisk away after a year-long preparation. One gets clarity about one self as to what he/she actually wants in life. So all it requires is smartness and aptitude. Also the need of a good mentor who can inspire you to perform to the best of your capability.

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An Introduction to Parajumbles - 08-07-2009, 10:17 AM

An Introduction to Parajumbles


What are parajumbles?

Parajumbles are jumbled paragraphs. Basically, you are given a paragraph - but the sentences are not in the right order. It's up to you to untie this knot and rearrange the sentences so that they logically make sense. You'll find this type of question on exams such as the CAT in the verbal logic section.

How paragraph jumbles are like jigsaw puzzles

When you were a kid, you probably tried to make jigsaw puzzles. You needed to find similar looking pieces so they would fit together. Parajumbles are like this. You need to find sentences which connect with each other - a sentence that "links" or "fits" with another.

Some helpful tips

Find proper opening sentences.
You can look for a proper beginning sentence. This sentence introduces an idea for the rest of the paragraph.

Look for concluding sentences.
If you find a sentence which sums up an idea or comes to a conclusion, this is probably a concluding sentence. Be careful, though - sometimes paragraph have conclusions at the beginning and then the argument is explained in further detail afterward.

Look for connecting sentences.
You will usually find sentences, which you know for certain, connect with each other. From there you can build upon the information that will fit in between. Figure out the sentences which match with each other, and looks for these pairs in your choice selections.


Look for keywords.
Sometimes sentences aren't able to stand on their own. They use pronouns and other keywords which can help you find the order of the sentences.

For example:
He, she, it, him, her, they

Look for transitions.
This will help you link sentences together.

For example:
Besides, although, but, yet, however, also, while, therefore, in addition, for example, fortunately/unfortunately


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Online CAT Previous Papers on Learnhub - 08-07-2009, 11:10 AM

Hey Guys,
I want to introduce free content source and online tests for CAT..etc. check the link: http://cat.learnhub.com/ , If u have any query, you can contact Suresh who was a faculty/content developer for CAT with over 6 yrs of experience in corporates like TIME and CL.. His profile link is: Suresh’s Profile (Sureshbala)
If you have any queries feel free to mail him on suresh.bala@learnhub.com .

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