[vinaymodi]

Originally Posted by HYgoldking

Buffer offer across all category is 376-350 = 26

So total buffer can't be 43. I think you have to redo the calculation

yep i think 10 % is a good estimate for the OBC quota this year and including people who might have qualified under General it could reach 15 %.
If that is the case, then we have
100 - 10(OBC) - 15(SC) -7.5(ST) - 3(PWD) = 64.5 % General seats = 224 seats as opposed to 204.

I think the number 180 i used above is actually 182, from the link u posted of April 2008 news
And regarding the buffer , what i feel about last year

Total Buffer : 300 -251 = 49
General Buffer : 214- 182 = 32
SC Buffer : 53-41 = 12
ST Buffer : 24 - 20 = 4
PWD Buffer : 9 - 8 = 1

and separately
OBC Buffer: 25-19 = 6

For this year

Total offers 376, Total estimated seats : 346


Category Offers = Seats + Buffer
Total 376 = 346 + 30
General 247 = 224 + 23
OBC 40 = 35 + 05
SC 52 = 52 + 00
ST 26 = 26 + 00
PWD 10 = 10 + 00

Note that the buffers add up to only 28, so there must be a small discrepancy in SC or OBC especially the 0 Buffer categories above.

Well this must definitely be good news (standard disclaimer ) for the waiting list people,
since

I have revised the .444 ratio to .429 ( 78/182) for last year.

the scenario 1 (read earlier post) changes to
Total movement = 224 *.429 = 96
WL movement = 96-23 =73 (Second WL ???)

and Scenario 2
the percentage of movement compared to last year at which 70 % WL movement would occur is
Total movement = 36 (72 percent of 52) + 23 = 59
Ratio of movement = 59/224 = 0.263
which is about 61 % of the movement last time.

For complete conversion of the waiting list, that is a movement of 52 + 23 = 75
the movement would have to be 75/224 = 0.335
which is roughly 78 % of the movement last time.

Of course the comparisons are in terms of movement per seat and the assumption that there are 346 seats to begin with.
And all the analysis is purely estimates.

[vinaymodi]

Now for a pessimistic analysis,

consider the total number of seat estimates form the various values

from the fact that SC seats = 15 % of total seats
if SC Buffer = 0 , Total Seats = 52/.15 = 346

For pessimistic cases, Assumption is mad that offers roughly = 1.2 times the number of seats
or buffer = (1-1/1.2)*Offers = Offers/6
or seats = 5*Offers/6

For pessimistic case, SC Seats = 5/6*52
Total Seats = 44/.15 = 293

In the case of ST reservation, number of seats are always roughly equal to the number of offers.

So if ST Buffer = 0 , Total seats = 26/.075 = 346
for pessimistic case consider offer = 1.1 times the number of seats,
then seats = 10*Offers/11
ST Seats = 10/11*26 = 24 ,
Total seats = 24/.075 = 320.


I think rather than speculating on this the best bet is to call up the office and find out how many total seats are there this year

Any socially responsible people person volunteer

[vinaymodi]

so an explanation for the buffer mismatch
could either be

A. lesser number of seats than expected : Total seats = 315 or so
B. lesser buffers resulting in a lot of movement : unlikely


With the assumption A, and general seats around 204-206, the assumptions i made in the earlier posts seem valid i guess.


standard disclaimers

[vinaymodi]

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weird, it says 350 seats here
does that imply definite huge movements as per the analysis .I am quite sure there would be more than 120 intersections between A, B and C resulting in at least 60 people opting for not B. But then again assumptions can always be proven wrong by facts.

All in due time.

[matrix1231]

[quote=HYgoldking;1486473]

Originally Posted by vinaymodi

I think they have gone ahead with around 10 % OBC reservation this time.
quote]

OBC may be 15%. Few OBC people may have got Interview call under GEN and converted under OBC quota. But this time it turns out to be 20 people. So total 40 + 20 = 60 (15% Quota)

Again OBC wait list is not 13. It is 15 people. (2 person got interview call as GEN. But waitlisted as OBC)

Ref:

kamalaandi (
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...ml#post1458488 (OBC candidates planning to take CAT 2008: Queries and Solutions)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...ml#post1463088 ([2009-2011]IIMC PGDM GD/PI Call Getters Profile-Admissions Queries) )

firstly the above ref. are just for IIM-C and not for IIM-B.

i have not come across anyone who is obc but got general call in IIM-B.
as per your view if again the obc candidates are considered as generals then the offers should be 60/240.
and not 40/240.

if the obc persons would have been considered as generals only then 40 calls per 240 interviews can be justified.

as of now i can see it is very unfair to take seats from obc and make it general.
the conversion ratio for general 1: 3.3
and the same for obc 1:6
and for all other categories (sc, st, pwd) it is 1:4

p.s. no offence to anyone. but my views are true.

[chinmayasharma]

I have a Waitlist 18 category: GEN. Can any of you perhaps apply some analysis and tell me which way I am headed?

[sidharth0208]

Originally Posted by chinmayasharma

I have a Waitlist 18 category: GEN. Can any of you perhaps apply some analysis and tell me which way I am headed?

I am pretty sure it will convert.. Even I am waitlisted at 30.. I expect it to convert too.. Anyway, even if it does convert, I will be joining IIM Calcutta

I wish all the waitlisters the best!!

[Nachurd]

calls:BLICK
category bc
converts:LK,B(waitlist no 1),C(on hold!!!!!!),I (wl5)

though its most likely wl ll start moving i wish i was on the other side of the borderline :(..anyways keeping my fingers crossed..

[HYgoldking]

This is not a good news for WL

"This year, IIM-C observed that the number of common names between the admissions lists of various IIMs has reduced as compared to recent years."

PaGaLGuY.com - The Everything of MBA, CAT 2008, GMAT, XAT, IIM - Features - [Update] Why has IIM-C revised PGP admissions results and put students on hold?

[abhishek057]

Guys in my personal opinion...Calculating ratios (which hugely vary batch by batch..last year being an exception that WL moved till about 50) and predicting this years movement is going to serve no purpose.

Another way to find is the number of people who have both A and B and those who have B and C....then we get some idea of how many % will choose A over B and 'C over B'

I can get some idea from TIME....if there are people from Career Launcher, PT, etc...please ask number of such students for Classroom courses only....otherwise numbers would be double counted