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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 14-01-2009, 11:18 PM

I completely agree with all the points. I think we should try to take some legal action against IIMs. Atleast IIM Shillong deserves to be penalized - they said they are taking a national level exam(CAT) with 50% in graduation as the eligibility criteria, and then they used 75% in SSC as their first level cut-off. This means that they are selecting on the basis of some regional board marks (obtained 8-10 years in the past).
I believe that CAT exam should be banned, because it is no longer a Common Admission Test, and it is not satisfying its purpose of "judging the aptitude of students on a common platform".
Anyway, if IIMs continue this way, their brand value will fall and their placements will suffer.
I have tried to voice my opinion by sending articles to some leading newspapers, but none of it was published (All newspapers are busy covering Satyam-Maytas)

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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 14-01-2009, 11:33 PM

I also belong here.

VA - 91.67
LRDI - 99.23
QA - 99.64

OA - 99.53

No calls..

Xth - 80
XIIth - 89.8
grad - 74.15 (among top 10 in batch..)

the toppers percentage is 79..

IIM Shillong can't expect nyone from our college ever

btw, my frnd qith 89 %tile in eng. and 99.6 overall got a call from IIM indore...
his grad %age - 65



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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 14-01-2009, 11:55 PM

The point is IIMs (and here I mean all the IIMs.. all 7 of them) clearly state what they are looking for in a candidate. If they are 'profiling' they have to make clear on what basis they are doing this, what parameters they are using and how are they arriving at the final results. They just can't hide behind a fortress and claim that they cannot reveal all such stuff. ANd they should do it before they start issuing the forms or atleast it should be a part of the CAT brochure. They are taking 1100 of our hard earned money, and they are answerable when we ask questions.

If acads is all they want, why the hell do they need a CAT to judge the 'aptitude' of students. Filter out people only on basis of 10th and 12th scores and issue GD/PI calls. Why are they letting people waste precious years of their life trying to prepare for a test whose importance is undervalued by the Instis which conduct it?

By the way , look at the previous few posts and you will see some good percentiles with good acads also missing the bus! I wonder what answers will the CAT commitee have for those people.

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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 12:16 AM

I found this at another thread. No IIM calls at 99.78 percentile (TR Number 6250569, Application Number 157638

Thats a crime. This guy has proved at an All India Level CAT exam that he has a better aptitude than 99.78 % of total aspirants, and still he is denied even a single IIM call. And he is denied on what basis? His past acads ?? But isnt IIM forgetting here that none of those past acads (Xth, XIIth, graduation) were on an All India Level !!! There is an the extreme variation of marks between different boards/universities.
And, by the way, how do they get the graduation marks for IITians who get CGPA(a relative score in a scale of 1 to 10) and no graduation marks in terms of percentages ???

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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 12:22 AM

now my scores are as follows
OA 98.53
QA 87.27
DI 96.94
VA 97.74
Xth 91% nd XIIth 86%
and obviously NO CALLS
the only mistake that i made is that i studied law
forget 80 no one gets even 70 in law
in our university getting a 60 is like writing ones name all time toppers list
but again i guess iims obviously overlooked this fact
now i'm in a serious quandary whether to give another shot at cat or not
god knows whether i even fit in the criteria for their actual selection or not


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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 12:26 AM

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I found this at another thread. No IIM calls at 99.78 percentile (TR Number 6250569, Application Number 157638

Thats a crime. This guy has proved at an All India Level CAT exam that he has a better aptitude than 99.78 % of total aspirants, and still he is denied even a single IIM call. And he is denied on what basis? His past acads ?? But isnt IIM forgetting here that none of those past acads (Xth, XIIth, graduation) were on an All India Level !!! There is an the extreme variation of marks between different boards/universities.
And, by the way, how do they get the graduation marks for IITians who get CGPA(a relative score in a scale of 1 to 10) and no graduation marks in terms of percentages ???

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dude, I an understand ur frustration. even I an going thru same. I have scored 98.85 oa with va 99.26 qa 93 di 82. For two days, I could not sleep as I was thinking god is playing some game with me. I was very agonizing when the yery next days I read headline in hindustan times that %tiles all that matter in cat. I think it would be better if these things are told before exam that u r going to give chance to students of those universities which give marks for free..............
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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 03:24 AM

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now my scores are as follows
OA 98.53
QA 87.27
DI 96.94
VA 97.74
Xth 91% nd XIIth 86%
and obviously NO CALLS
the only mistake that i made is that i studied law
forget 80 no one gets even 70 in law
in our university getting a 60 is like writing ones name all time toppers list
but again i guess iims obviously overlooked this fact
now i'm in a serious quandary whether to give another shot at cat or not
god knows whether i even fit in the criteria for their actual selection or not
Dude,

The point is, earlier if someone didn't do well in CAT, then he can go ahead and prepare for thext year's test hoping that he could make it to the IIMs with a good score. But now, even if you get a 99.xx next year won't you be judged the same way? Won't your graduation marks play a spoilsport?

Thats why the IIMs need to reveal their admissions policy and should atleast attempt to correct their flaws. By not doing this, they have not only dented the hopes of thousands of people, but also some of the future aspirants as well.

Give it some thought before you pour in all your effort for CAT 09. ATB.

Krishna
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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 08:55 AM

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Dude,

The point is, earlier if someone didn't do well in CAT, then he can go ahead and prepare for thext year's test hoping that he could make it to the IIMs with a good score. But now, even if you get a 99.xx next year won't you be judged the same way? Won't your graduation marks play a spoilsport?

Thats why the IIMs need to reveal their admissions policy and should atleast attempt to correct their flaws. By not doing this, they have not only dented the hopes of thousands of people, but also some of the future aspirants as well.

Give it some thought before you pour in all your effort for CAT 09. ATB.

Krishna
well, if u r looking ahead at cat 09, if there's any lesson to be taken forward from cat 08, it's not to write cat with only iims in mind. obviously the iims themselves don't seem to respect cat scores alone. so i guess one has to keep his options open.


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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 09:46 AM

hey guys.. i am not here to complain abt anything.. seriously.. i just want to know what can be the reason that i didnt get any call..
my scores re
LR/DI - 95.XX
QA- 93.17
VA-98.XX
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OA 99.24

X - 90%
XII 82 %
Graduation 72%
work ex arnd 4 months

now i know that i didnt get any call and nothing can be changed.. is the overall score a bit less or 93.17 in QA is what did me .. ??
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Re: Is the CAT a farce? - 15-01-2009, 10:11 AM

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hey guys.. i am not here to complain abt anything.. seriously.. i just want to know what can be the reason that i didnt get any call..
my scores re
LR/DI - 95.XX
QA- 93.17
VA-98.XX
---------------------
OA 99.24

X - 90%
XII 82 %
Graduation 72%
work ex arnd 4 months

now i know that i didnt get any call and nothing can be changed.. is the overall score a bit less or 93.17 in QA is what did me .. ??
ur score looks good enough for K call. don't know why you didn't get it.


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