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CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 03:13 PM

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ROUND usage

ans is the hospital one only

the shop is round the corner (around the corner means imminent .... about to happen...... so this will be correct)

...
so i thin all those answers in keys are wrong :new_scatter:
Dude kindly elaborate on ur reasoning for the 2nd being incorrect...??

Btw chk this out... all idioms with "corner" are listed.. I couldnt find "round the corner"
round the corner - definition of round the corner by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.



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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 03:17 PM

Hi,
TIME has given wrong soln to Q71in set 444. CL,IMS and PT have given option 1 as soln and it is correct. Maybe intemperance is right. But you never know till solution is out and you are never sure.Just because one has written intemperance, no need to assume it is right. As far as para completion goes, most have got everything wrong. I have doubt regarding jew passage..they have changed actual passage option..instead of 'from',option says 'for' which changes meaning and makes it absurd.
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 03:23 PM

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Dude kindly elaborate on ur reasoning for the 2nd being incorrect...??

Btw chk this out... all idioms with "corner" are listed.. I couldnt find "round the corner"
round the corner - definition of round the corner by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY HAS EXCELED IN CAT THIS YEAR.. EVERYBODY SCORING ABOVE HUNDRED.. COOL.

cn smebody tell me .. where probably will i lie.. (as fr as percentile is concerned).. if i score 90 (in all the three sections!!) i know its not much but asking .. just for the knack of it..
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 03:30 PM

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ROUND usage

ans is the hospital one only

the shop is round the corner (around the corner means imminent .... about to happen...... so this will be correct)

come round to admitting it
(it is also given correct as per dictionary)

and in the para completion ques

its given in the ques "from each of these paras ...... the LAST sentence has been deleted"

so i thin all those answers in keys are wrong :new_scatter:
Yeah, even i think the hospital one is the correct option. But, i think most sites did get it right! I checked the answers in TF and TIME, and they also say option 4...:1eye:
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 03:34 PM

Also, I had posted this in another thread, but didn't get any replies... i guess i should've posted it here...

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Hey puys!!

What do you think about question 53 (from test form 333)? The one about "Every human being, after the first few days...". All the websites are showing different answers! (I found TF had a useful functionality where they compare the answers given by other sites like IMS, CL, TIME...) Anyways, TF and IMS are giving "genetic, pedagogy" as the answer, but CL and TIME are giving answer as "personal, climate".

I marked the answer as "genetic, pedagogy", but i'm not very sure. So, what do you'll think??

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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 03:42 PM

Here are a few doubts i have..
Question1: In passage word "Fossil" can be interpreted as:
The passage talks about fossil being an indicator (words being "just like the scientist can reconstruct from the coded message of a fossil) pre historic organisms etc . Cant we interpret the meaning from this sentence.
Question2 ) TS Eliot "No one starts from scratch"
"we carry forward the legacy of past".any one who chose this option?
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 04:47 PM

Hi..

Posted this earlier, but since this question came up again..here's my opinion.

For the Q. "The author pined for 2-cent cones instead of one 4-cent pie because.."

In my opinion, we're asked as to why the author when HE was a KID HIMSELF "pined for two 2-cent cones and not one 4- cent pie". The intemperance view is true but it only comes into the picture when the author (as an ADULT) looks back and realizes what it actually was.

I personally feel it has something to do with "visual appeal"..at least the 3rd paragraph in its entirety suggests the same. Whole para is about the "visual appeal". Read 3rd para.. "I was fascinated...privileged children advanced proudly..expertly moving head from side to side..."
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 04:54 PM

Heyy buddy good to see your post..

I think I came close to you with respect to this passage questions

Here is what I did:

-> For the Question on "The passage uses an observation by T.S. Eliot to imply that" ... I have also marked:
"We always carry forward the legacy of the past"

Reason: In the passage it's written: 1) "As T.S. Eliot observed, no one starts anything from scratch; however consciously you may try to live in the present, you are still involved with a nexus of behaviour patterns bequeathed from the past." Then It is followed by: 2) "The original and creative person is not someone...........present needs."

Now, I think (and looks like you too) that the question is regarding MAINLY POINT 1 (what T.S. Eliot said) and NOT POINT 2 (which is how the AUTHOR takes the idea further).

So, as per ONLY 1, answer should be: "we always carry forward the legacy of the past"

Puys, kindly provide your feedback on the above.

Also, for the other question on how 'fossil' can be interpreted, I also felt from the passage that it is referring specifically to an 'old' Art Movement rather than the 'passing of an era'.... and marked the option 2: 'indicate a historic art movement' after some thinking on option 2 and 5.. but the catch seems to be the word 'historic' :(
I wud have been lot more confident if it was 'historical'.... dint pay attention during the test.. so guess this would be wrong.

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Here are a few doubts i have..
Question1: In passage word "Fossil" can be interpreted as:
The passage talks about fossil being an indicator (words being "just like the scientist can reconstruct from the coded message of a fossil) pre historic organisms etc . Cant we interpret the meaning from this sentence.
Question2 ) TS Eliot "No one starts from scratch"
"we carry forward the legacy of past".any one who chose this option?
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 05:01 PM

I don't trust the answers given by these coaching institutes for VA section.
After all, they too have guessed out the answer, like all of us did!
The final say stays with IIMs, lets wait and watch, watts the hurry
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Re: CAT 08: Verbal Section Discussion - 18-11-2008, 05:14 PM

Regarding the other doubts people are having..

In the 3rd Q. from sentence correction "is still unable to reach hundreds who are marooned" seems right grammatically. So answer should be A,C and D. You can also find the same para in the following article.
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Opinion | signs ignored

Regarding the congenital, genetic FIB, both these words fit in. I think the 2nd blank will be the deciding factor here, education fits in better, in my view.

Regarding the usage of round, someone correctly pointed out that all the institutes who have been thinking of 4 and 5 as probable answers might get this wrong. The shop is located round the corner looks rather fishy, I wont be surprised if this indeed is the correct option.

Regarding the institutions, organs FIB- still doubtful.. cant find any plausible rationale completely in favor of 1 answer. The institutes who have gone for the 4th option organs; tradition may have got this one right though.

I, unfortunately, find myself on the wrong side of these mistakes.

Regarding the paragraph completion, I think it would be best to leave the CAT to do the thinking here. If such a rage has been ensuing over the para-completion, it would only be fair to infer that all the options are very close. There might be a few changes in 'em, there's no need to be google-ing for those paragraphs. Especially because, the usage of the word "for" instead of "from" in the Mattancherry Q. seems rather deliberate. People tell me that historically IIM's have always stuck to the actual para but again, CAT has always been full of surprises!
So guys..please hold your horses! Para completion, come Jan 2009, might not look the same!
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