[PG Premier League] Mumbai Dream Team

[antimage]

meeting every sunday is difficult man...I hate to travel in the local/bus....moreover going newhere from Powai is a 'P I the A'....Meeting once in 3 sundays is feasible though

[IIMkiller]

Originally Posted by dishant777

@ Ljv.....

V can surely meet after evry sunday at some place.......to have a proper analysis of Mocks....n also v can learn a lot frm each other......!!

M2 puys wht say??.........

That is probably the best message I have ever seen in pagalguy (and I have been a pagal since 2004, albeit as ramachess1). I think this is great, except that it would make more sense only if all people are giving the same mock. Therefore all Time guys might get a lot more from this kind of meet compared to others.

I am presently giving CL Mock CAT, but I plan to take up AIMCAT as well soon, so probably that may not trouble me.

This kind of puy meet would definitely help us in knowing more about different techniques to solve a question. And probably it would be even great to get the coach and manager to drop in once in a while.

And this is sure to be a reason why Mumbai puys should be active of MM thread. The number of puys active on this thread has gone down considerably ever since the official team was formed (moi included).

[vivekkahn]

Originally Posted by IIMkiller

That is probably the best message I have ever seen in pagalguy (and I have been a pagal since 2004, albeit as ramachess1). I think this is great, except that it would make more sense only if all people are giving the same mock. Therefore all Time guys might get a lot more from this kind of meet compared to others.

I am presently giving CL Mock CAT, but I plan to take up AIMCAT as well soon, so probably that may not trouble me.

This kind of puy meet would definitely help us in knowing more about different techniques to solve a question. And probably it would be even great to get the coach and manager to drop in once in a while.

And this is sure to be a reason why Mumbai puys should be active of MM thread. The number of puys active on this thread has gone down considerably ever since the official team was formed (moi included).

All the enthu tat was ther has died...
anyways can this be done next week i.e. on 10th August, as i ll b in mumbai, and this will give me a chance to meet u guys...

[vivekkahn]

An interesting article tat i found in a post by Raghav507...

CAT CONTROL

ARUN SHARMA REVEALS THE FIRST STEP TO CRACKING THE CAT IS TO LEARN TO RECOGNISE AND OVERTURN YOUR ERRORS



It’s July and CAT preparation is at its peak for most 2008 aspirants.
In the last two articles, we focused on questions that appeared in the CAT 2007 quants section and the ways in which we could solve them. It was apparent that simple logical processes would have overcome seemingly very tough processes.
In this article, we focus on a very crucial matter, which if adequately dealt with, can help you improve your test scores.
It is understood that it is extremely important to be dedicatedly taking practice tests at this time. In fact, it is imperative that you realise that the CAT prep is actually divided into two parts. Remember: Each part is as important as the other -
(a) Conceptual development- Through conceptual development, a student can focus on developing a strong theoretical background in each of the three sections of the exam.
(b) Test taking: Any preparation for CAT cannot be complete without a significant number of tests taken by the student. The minimum recommended number would be around 30 to 40 tests. The more, the better.
In fact, while there are a lot of aspirants who are able to crack the CAT and acquire admission to the IIMs or other good management institutes without doing (a), it is extremely rare to come across someone who has cracked the CAT and made it to the IIMs without doing (b). Thus, look at it this way. Ideally, a student’s CAT preparation should be about (a) and (b) mixed in a proper fashion, but if you are only doing one, (b) is compulsory, especially if you are good with the basics.
Obviously, a lot of students out there have already started to take tests. It is also very obvious that many of these students will be very concerned about the range in which they might be scoring in these practice tests. The key question students will be facing at this point of time, would be:
“What do I do in order to develop my test scores?”
Also, if you are scoring, say, 50 percentile in your tests now, does it mean that you are on your way to a third-level B-School? Does it mean that the cherished dream that you have always had of getting into the IIMs is going to remain exactly that - a pipe dream?
Absolutely not. Contrary to popular perception, taking a jump from 50 percentile to 99 percentile need not be related to how much you study. You could easily do it with some smart working on your part.
So what must you focus on?
A critical issue in CAT preparations is the ability to overturn errors. In the current context of the CAT (last two years), where individual questions have carried four marks for a correct answer, and -1 for an incorrect answer, the net result of an error was five marks. As we have already mentioned in our previous articles in this series, just five errors overturned would give you an additional 25 marks, taking you from 60 percentile to 90 percentile levels.
Refer to the article a few weeks ago, where we had defined your score improvement potential - viz by defining three types of questions:
a) How many silly errors did you make in the exam? Let the number of such silly errors be A.
b) How many questions did you read in the exam for which you remembered the answers only after you left the hall? Let the number of such questions be B. c) How many questions did you not read in the exam, but knew the answer when you saw them after the paper? Let the number of such questions be C.
An individual’s total score improvement potential would be given by A×5+ B×4+C×4.
So the obvious question would be: How do I achieve this score improvement?
Let us focus on the first of these categories - taking care of silly errors. The first thing you should realise is that silly errors can further be defined into three broad types:
i) Errors of calculation: One of my students (an IIT alumnus) committed the error of calculating 3x3 = 6 in his CAT. The result? A drop of five marks in net scores, leading to a crucial percentile drop. Obviously, these errors would be committed in the QA and DI sections only.
ii) Process-based silly errors: A single-step error in solving a question. Again, obviously an error that would be committed in the QA and DI sections only. iii) Over reading errors: Questions you get incorrect due to the fact that you did not read it properly. This error might occur in any of the three sections, including English. Your preparation plan should include processes to overturn each of these three categories.
Issue 1: Tackling calculation errors - How do you explain an IITian making an error like 3×3 = 6? Does he not know this? Obviously, there are explanations outside the ordinary, which induce such errors. This is what makes the CAT tough (If you recollect, in the last few articles, we have been concentrating on demonstrating why the CAT paper is actually easy).
When an IIT topper can be induced to make such errors, what would happen to a normal student?
The first and foremost thing you should realise while preparing is that when you are taking the CAT, the entire potential of your brain will not be available to you. Your mind will be in such a state that you might be forced to even check 2+2.
So remember, the basic principle is that if in your normal day to day preparation, you can do something by using an excess of 80 to 90% of your mind’s capacity, you would not be able to execute that thinking in the CAT paper.
What you need to realise is that unless you train yourself to be able to execute your thought processes under intense unrelenting pressure, any preparation for the CAT, by and large, makes no sense.
In our next article in this series, we will throw more light on this issue.
(The writer is a corporate trainer, an author of a series of bestselling books from Tata McGraw Hill and a popular CAT trainer)

[caieta]

can anyone explain sum no 30 of TIME AIMCAT 0914.

In the solution cant understand----- 1/3 of AD and the solutionto sum no 24 is not at all comprehensible. Any of you with an easier method, plz help !!!!

[vivekkahn]

Originally Posted by caieta

can anyone explain sum no 30 of TIME AIMCAT 0914.

In the solution cant understand----- 1/3 of AD and the solutionto sum no 24 is not at all comprehensible. Any of you with an easier method, plz help !!!!

Question 30...
Forget everything...let AB=4a and CD=3b (DH=HI=IC=b)...So AD=2a and 4a=3b.
now area of a triangle (T...representation) = .5*base*height...
consider T KFG and T JFG, base is same, of length 'a', heigth for T KFG = 2a * 2/3 and for T JFG its half of it, 2a/3...
so find areas of T's and subtract to get shaded region, which comes out to be (a^2)/3...
area of rectangle = 8a^2...
so ratio = 1:24...


Q 24.For a no with more than 3 digits to be divisible by 8, the no formed by last 3 digits shud be divisible by 8...so last two digit 64 has to be the last two digit...as 644 or 444 or 666 are not divisible by 8...rest i feel shud b clear...if not then tell....

[anand_953]

Originally Posted by vivekkahn

Question 30...
Forget everything...let AB=4a and CD=3b (DH=HI=IC=b)...So AD=2a and 4a=3b.
now area of a triangle (T...representation) = .5*base*height...
consider T KFG and T JFG, base is same, of length 'a', heigth for T KFG = 2a * 2/3 and for T JFG its half of it, 2a/3...
so find areas of T's and subtract to get shaded region, which comes out to be (a^2)/3...
area of rectangle = 8a^2...
so ratio = 1:24...


Q 24.For a no with more than 3 digits to be divisible by 8, the no formed by last 3 digits shud be divisible by 8...so last two digit 64 has to be the last two digit...as 644 or 444 or 666 are not divisible by 8...rest i feel shud b clear...if not then tell....

One more easier way to solve ques 24 would be through options... as the no. needs to be divisible by 9, the sum of all the digits should be divisible by 9. Now among the options, only option 1 services the purpose ..
ie... 1) 3

explanation - 6*3 + 4*9 = 54, which is divisible by 9.. for all other options, the sum comes around 56,58 and 60 which are not divisible by 9... so option 1

this was a typical CAT like sum which required just presense of mind and logic and no mathematical fundas... and these are the kind of questions we should be expecting in QA ... also this question would fall equally on all students, work ex people, commerce or science or arts or engineer graduates as no mathetical formulaes are to be used....

[anand_953]

Can someone please let me know the different timings when various coaching institutes in mumbai conduct their mock cats?

I am currently giving TIME AIMCATS from andheri centre and they have two slots :
1) 9:30 am to 12 pm
2) 1:30 pm to 4 pm

i am thinking of enrolling in any other mock test too... so can anyone tell which other coaching institutes conduct tests at more than one slot so that i can work out the timings accordingly??

Thanks,
Anand

[anand_953]

Originally Posted by IIMkiller

That is probably the best message I have ever seen in pagalguy (and I have been a pagal since 2004, albeit as ramachess1). I think this is great, except that it would make more sense only if all people are giving the same mock. Therefore all Time guys might get a lot more from this kind of meet compared to others.

I am presently giving CL Mock CAT, but I plan to take up AIMCAT as well soon, so probably that may not trouble me.

This kind of puy meet would definitely help us in knowing more about different techniques to solve a question. And probably it would be even great to get the coach and manager to drop in once in a while.

And this is sure to be a reason why Mumbai puys should be active of MM thread. The number of puys active on this thread has gone down considerably ever since the official team was formed (moi included).

Actually that's a very good idea.. if not once a week atlest once every two weeks ... this would be very useful for those enrolled in only test series and have no access to doubt clearing session conducted by the coaching institutes.... what say?

[neynetr]

i think all this discussion regarding meeting up is really gr8...
n i'm the only one who wud b disappointed by this instead of being excited as my company is sending me off to kharagpur for some project....(kharagpur of all places...)
n this is going to b for at least 2 months... (can b even more)
time authorities have said that they conduct aimcats there in the iit campus... but still now therz gonna be so much work.... really dont know how my ill b able to work out with my preperation....
although i hope i can still b a part of this team though.... mayb the mods wud tell me...???
i wud luv to continue to b a part of mumbai mavericks....
k then... my nxt post from kgp.... flyin tomorrow mornin...!!!!