SC Upholds OBC , Results likely to be delayed

[grey_havens]

Originally Posted by swayamk

IIM A:
total seats (192 + 17 + 42 + 21 + with 192 for general category... = 280
so... for general category... seats were 192... competed for by 557 students (1/2.9 chance)
now these 557 guys... get to compete for 141 seats with an approx 1/4 chance....

students from the quotas: no. of students shortlisted = 54+106+20+8 = 188... compete for 139 seats... a 1/1.35 chance. (approx 3/4)

I did not understand how you reduced the number of general seats to 141.. it's still 192 and still 557 people compete for it.. please read the pdf by IIMA carefully.. two scenarios one b4 quota and one after it is presented.. i think u missed the point that the whole 27% quota is not being implemented this year.. it will be done in 3 years.. this year at IIMA it's only going to be 6% and the general seats will be increased from 186 to 192..

cheers

[Sonu_pk]

Hi All,

As per the following article from rediff, the quota would only apply till graduation, and not for post-graduate admissions (which include IIM's)

Supreme Court has accepted our argument: Salve

[hameed]

The Quota, if implemented, will single handedly push the quality of IIM pass outs down by 27 %

For those who feel its the quality of education in the IIMs that dictates the quality of its pass outs - you have got it all upside-down.

I have nothing against a 99%iler with good break-up filling up the quota, but why should any one who took 38 mocks, attended loads of workshops and passed out from a top notch engineering college land up in an IIM with just 97%ile? Quite obviously, such a candidate is going to displace a 99%iler - Unluckily non-OBC candidate. This displaced soul will land up in schools like MDI, NITIE, XL, SPJ et all...

Then there would be no blaming anyone who compares an MDI with lets say C. For he would not be far from the truth.

We are moving into an India where there will be more IIMs with more seats to occupy in each, more quota will result in more desrving people missing out. For those who manage to get into an IIM, the all-conquering feeling would still be there, albiet a tad diluted.

For someone like me who landed in a non-IIM b-school, there is an increased prospect of better competition. And so, after having applied through general inspite of being OBC eligible, i think i have done not just the right thing, but the smart thing as well.

Rock on!
hameed

ps- may better sense prevail and IIMs and all post graduate studies be exempt from the quota, if not the death of the quata.

[macora]

Originally Posted by rpradeephere

Was seeing all the TV channels.

Almost 10-12 shameless politicians have mentioned that they feel "creamy layer" must be included and they will join hands with other political parties to see what can be done here. Includes guys like Anbumani Ramdoss, Sitaram Yechuri and all the "I don't have brains but baked beans in my head" & "what is self esteem? Never heard whats that" type of politicians.

How low can they get? When their sons and daughters can't avail the quota, they start squirming in their seats and shamelessly speak like this. God only knows where India is heading to.

Very well agree with u.. Totally destroys the purpose of reservation (I dont agree with concept of reservation in first place).
All the people who are currently using the reservation criteria come from well to do families or families where there are already people using the quota.

When these parties speak of social justice cant they think even once, what is social justice. Is it the caste or the religion separation they are propagating. The social justice should be based upon social status.
We know that we cant make a difference in this regard, these are politicians which we have chosen.

But if the said thing about creamy layer and the minimum income come true this itself will be good enough.

[somak2001us]

y is IIMB's result getting delayed??they called only 2 obc students this yr,so how r they going to implement d obc quota this yr??
or r they plannin to call obc candidates for gd/pi now n then declare results??????

[macora]

I think first of all we need to be clear about what the judgement has been. There are many versions of it coming now.

Is there any way we can get a copy of the judgement and understand what is going to happen in case of IIMs?

[ankit_jn]

Check: Supreme Court has accepted our argument: Salve

This rediff article suggests that Quota will not be implemented in post-graduate colleges. Is that authentic? Copy-pasting the relevant part from the article:

He emphasised that, "Indian Institute of Management is a centre of post-graduate studies and the judges have accepted our argument and have exempted the application of reservation in post-graduation studies". Salve said that, "Indian Institute of Technology may have the reservation for OBCs".

[thesoumendu]

I think this puts end to the speculation about whether results will be coming out tommorrow or not:

Indian Institute of Management Bangalore

[mdhiraj]

Rediff Article

Supreme Court has accepted our argument: Salve

Sheela Bhatt in New Delhi
April 10, 2008 16:57 IST
Harish Salve, lawyer for the doctors' association, who are against reservation in higher studies, told rediff.com, "I am quite happy with the judgment. This is one of the most balanced judgments".
He emphasised that, "Indian Institute of Management is a centre of post-graduate studies and the judges have accepted our argument and have exempted the application of reservation in post-graduation studies". Salve said that, "Indian Institute of Technology may have the reservation for OBCs".
Elaborating on the reason behind his satisfaction with the judgment, Salve said, "We had been arguing on a number of issues. We wanted to bar the creamy layer from benefiting from the reservation. The Supreme Court has accepted our argument. We were arguing for the fresh identification of castes. The judges have agreed to do it as well. Because of the today's judgment, it will not be affordable for OBC students to avail the quota because of the criteria of creamy layer and fresh identification of castes".
Salve optimistically added, "The judgment may have validated and accepted the Constitution amendment law, but it has redrawn the law too"

[ankit_jn]

Originally Posted by thesoumendu

I think this puts end to the speculation about whether results will be coming out tommorrow or not:

Indian Institute of Management Bangalore

So I will have to wait longer! Anxiety was already getting on to me