All I wanted to Speak about CAT

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[13thwarrior]

Hats off to Chandoo...

i just discovered this thread...good work Mod Chandoo...

well i believe somewhere down the line we all learned something or the other from here or there in our attempts at CAT..wen i was reading Chandoo's posts in the starting of the thread..i remembered those days wen i was at IMS preparing amongst the best to crack the CAT...for me..i never used to think that my aim was to get 99.9% in CAT...my aim always used to be select the questions i cant answer...and then work on the ones i cud answer...i was never good at maths..stil i am not..but i practised enuf to ensure that i cud attempt mayb 13-14 questions in the quant section...

my folks were always like...spend atleast 2-3hrs in day for CAT...it required that much preparation...well without that that i cud manage 96.8(when i was studying) and 94.33(when i was working)...so maybe if u can spend an hr a day..it might just work wonders...well i was good at the english and DI section...so that made up for my overall percentile...i never got worried with what i scored in my mocks at IMS because i firmly believe that wat matters is how u approach the exam in those 2 hours..

in my first attempt i saw my frnds who had prepared like crazy...done well in mocks...got nowhere above 90% in CAT...probably their state of mind was not wat it shud have been on the D Day...so my mantra then was to give my best when i m there...n i still believe it works...u ve to be prepared for it no doubt..but u dont ve to let anything else matter to u in those 2 hrs...

with 96.8 i did get a call from IIML for their Agri course but then they sent us back from mumbai as we didnt ve the undergrad qualification...i had just gone their to get an experience of IIM gd/pi...ntn more...i thot i shud ve gotten a call from MDI..but i think my quant percentile didnt allow me..i m talkin abt CAT 2004...nevertheless...filled up MICA..got a call...went for the GD/PI...seemed good..but the senior student in the interview panel didnt approve of one of my answers..so didnt get thru...started working...didnt ve time to prepare much...relied on mock papers i had...tested myself on them for 15 days..went for CAT..got 94.33..applied to a few institutes..got a call from BIM...and i m rocking on here...the best part in this attempt was...i didnt ve the time to prepare at all except for those 15 days when i somehow managed to get 2 hrs in a day to finish off one paper a day...tho i did section wise...but i managed to do something abt it..or else probably my percentage wud ve been lower than 94.33...

all in all CAT for me going in for CAT was just about managing my 2 hours in the best way
on that day...just knowing what to leave is more important than what to attempt...wel it maynot hold true for everyone..but it did hold true for me..

cheers!!

pushpreet

@prem...hope this isnt irrevlevant

[Fabio capello]

Many People write here since they wanted to share their success story and some to give ideas or solutions(the right word) to others.I belong to the second category.

CAT.The three letter word was always a challenge for those who are aspiring to catch the other three letter word(MBA or IIM).I am taking cat for the fourth time in a row and its my last appearance .Its difficult to say that i am taking CAT for the last time.Even i feel crying and some tears on its way from my eyes.Its not easy to think that you are not going to take cat if you have given your 100% shot during the first time.

I am not a class topper or a below average.I am average student who had some back logs in my college degree.IIM ,CAT LOL my parents ,friends were laughing.Backlogs in sixth semester almost two sem papers to be taken in a stretch during the seventh sem and CAT in the middle of sems.Everyone were advising me not to get into CAT and loose my UG degree.But i was prepared hard.I studied nearly 20 hrs a day for both acads and CAT.I gave my 100% shot in acads and failed to prepare CAT in the final month because of the sems.Atlast i reached in and around 89 percentile(not sure its a round figure) and cleared all the sem papers .For the first time in my ug sems i have cleared all the papers and i am one in the all clear list.But deep in my heart CAT was singing its slogan loudly and clearly.

Things went by and i passed my UG degree.Got the offer from one of the software firm.But i want to get into iims .So i dropped it .Prepared seriously,since i had no other work i could put more effort.But the pressure was more to crack it since i was jobless.If i was not going to crack CAT this time(CAT 2005) i will be jobless.The fresher label will be torn off.First few mocks were in around 95-98 percentile but once i reached the month of sept i felt that the job is cushion.And i was attending all these walkins(verizon,TCS etc etc) in which i remained unsuccessful.Pressure mounted .Unable to concentrate on CAT.Atlast i cracked a intreview and got the job as Information security engineer in HCL.One month of training in noida has stopped my preparation.But i took CAT 05 and scored only 60 percentile .

Dont drop your jobs its your cushion always.The pressure mounts and it will be the first hurdle to clear(getting the job) ,which will make you not to concentrate in CAT.

April 2006 i decided to take it once again.Prepared seriously worked quants di verbal every scrap of CAT paper in the office before the seniors .No matter what they thought about me.Scored 95-98 regularly in all the mocks.IIMA released their expected cutoffs for CAT before the D-Day .Which tuned my mind

On D-day when i saw the question paper ,i calculated the expected cutoff to be 100 marks (addition of all the three).Attempted only 35 questions .Screwed royally in verbal and ended with 72 Percentile in verbal and 96+ in both quants and di.

Dont premeditate things about CAT.Finish the task which is given .Results will come automatically.

I felt bad didnt even speak to parents for a week."I lost something big " the only feeling in my heart.Atlast screwed all the exams like JMET,XAT,Symbiosis etc etc.

So please dont think about CAT after taking cat.It could be booster or the destroyer.Concentrate on other exams it will be helpful.

My cat race started once again in april 2007 took the mocks seriously...scored only around 90 to 92 percentile in one or two mocks and even rock bottom 16 percentile or 17 per in some mocks.I got a good offer from a consulting firm .And i was posted as a consultant in ethical hacking.Pressure in the job doomed me didnt even allowed me to concentrate in CAT.Only 4 days more for CAT and this story remains uncompleted.Many journeys which you would have read above would have completed.But this story stands still in the air.

But i wanted to share some things with you

Never get tensed.Life is always there and waiting for you beyond cat.Life is a mountain to climb and cat is one single huge rock.

Many iitians failed to crack cat but got admissions in MIT ,Stan etc etc.Those who failed to crack cat also made their MBA from WBS,HBS,LBS But they have achieved bigger than an IIMian.
Getting into IIM is the first obstacle.I mean the word Obstacle.But the real battle starts only in IIM acads.

Dont premeditate things .CAT should be taken with open mind and heart.

Dont drop your jobs its your cushion always.The pressure mounts if you drop your job and it will be the first hurdle to clear(getting the job) ,which will make you not to concentrate in CAT.

Do the job which your mind wants you to .Developing or counsulting but with your full heart.(i am happy that i am a consultant .I am not an MBA grad )

Fight till the last CAT is all about attitude .Warrior should fight the battle till the last.Be like a aussie team fight untill the last ball is bowled.Remember they fought till the last ball in 99 world cup semifinal and went on to win the cup

Dont allow cat to play with your ego`s.If you do so then you will end up taking cat along with your kids.Find your right skills and give your best shot.


Many positive stories could be there in the ocean .But this is something different

CIAO

Praveen

[maxximus]

Dear all,

I am posting on PG after almost 3 months as I have been busy with my GMAT applications. I hope many puys around would remember me...

Just a bit over one day is left and if puys are still studying...I would say you're delaying the rest your brain deserves...it needs to be fresh for a test that is much more a test of application than knowledge...and to apply well...the cells at top of the body shud get their share of joy n rest...completely my opinion...which may be wrong,,,I recommend taking a break from everything now and doing something that refreshes you...for me, it's watching movies...so I'd be watching 2 movies in coming 24 hours...

Then, let's make sure we get as much sleep as we can...and take the test without stress as the same can only deteriorate the performance. I am sure all of us would agree that lotsa question go unsolved in the mocks but seem a cakewalk at home...reason...there's no stress at home...no pressure to perform...we have nothing to loose...so things seem easy.

Hence, a simple request to everybody...take it as 'just a test'. Life would not end if CAT does not go well...am sure we all have a back up or atleast a back up plan.

As long as I can remember, I wanted to fight for my country. In my interview for induction into Indian Army, after a good 30 minute interview, the officer said, all's well with you, but I would not select you...what would u do? I said (from the bottom of my heart), Sir, If you don't select me, u're at loss...the motif is to serve the nation...and to do that, with due respect, I don't rely on u selecting me...reject me and I'll find an alternate way to serve my motherland.

For next few seconds, nobody in the hall uttered a word...n I was asked to leave. The result...I was one of the top few across all the four defence academies. The idea is, no mishap is big enough to close all the doors....forgive me for using cliche...but it suits here the best..."If there's a will, there's a way".

One of the main reasons why I could succeed in CAT 2005 is that I went with 'the nothing to loose' spirit...I had to join Army and CAT was more of a practice test as I had planned my MBA after spending 5 years in the Army. The very attitude helped me tackle all the surprises CAT had to offer...as I had little practise, and for that reason, no predictions about the pattern.

I remember taking CAT 2005 in a classroom for VII stdd students. A student had pasted few words of wisdom besides the blackboard. In those few minutes sandwitched between taking the seat and receiving the paper, I learnt few important lessons of my life. Would like to share...the poster read...

Every morning when you get up...tell yourself...

Thank you god for showing me this beautiful day...
Today is gonna be a wonderful day...
I have atleast one thing to be happy about today...
I would do atleast one selfless act today...
I can do more than what I think I am capable of...

Remember the last line puys...for the confidents as well as the underconfidents...

"We can do more than what we think we are capable of".....

Two days short of two years since I learnt this lesson, after preferring Indian Army to IIM, and then, unfortunately, leaving Army due to a technical problem, I would again need to perform at CAT...with almost a same state of mind..."nothing to loose"...after a decent GMAT score....CAT would be a bonus...but then...forgive me for repeating..." there's nothing to loose!"

So puys...after all the hardwork 'done' or 'undone', we all have it in us to bell the CAT....

I WISH EVERYBODY LOTSA LUCK....ENJOY THE PAPER...IT'S GONNA BE AN 'INTERESTING TREAT'...SOMETHING THAT NO CAT OR NO MOCK HAS SEEN BEFORE....EXPLOIT THIS RARE OPPORTUNITY AND ENJOY!!!!

In the process.....do remember....

"WE CAN DO MORE THAN WHAT WE THINK WE ARE CAPABLE OF"

All the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,
Maxximus

PS: I would be submitting the same post in many threads....so please forgive me if you get to see it more than once...

[ashwinc20031]

Originally Posted by ashishyahoo

Contd...

Advice to future aspirants (if you consider me worthy to be givin it )

On Mock Tests:

TIME – Probably the best for experimenting, but real difficult at times – so take a pinch of salt
CL – Superb in Verbal and DI – way too tough in Quant
IMS – Have improved much much more in 2006.
CF – Decent, and good morale-boosters.
PT – Heard they were just about ok.

I would say any of the above with good analysis of where you went wrong after each mock, and noting ‘out of the box’ problems would suffice more than enough. Of course, above all this, comes solving all the previous CAT papers, being thoroughly sure of every old problem that has appeared, and also of the concept attached to it.

On indivudual sections:

Verbal – My strongest, but didn’t help me much when I wanted it to. A good day bad day concept (read my notes elsewhere on PG – and on the new Verbal thread for this year). Be inherently good, and crack it. No one day/two day preparation can help you here. Especially when the ambiguity in it is increasing to large extents. Focus more on comprehending stuff – watever it may be. Will be very hepful – both in Verbal and in RC.

Quant – Past CAT papers – the best source of information. Besides these come the ‘out of box’ problems. Try things like TWI and Vedic Mathematics if only you are very confident about them ( I wasn’t, hence they didn’t work much for me). But TWI is indeed a very useful approach, especially the ‘bottom-up’ approach (through the alternatives).

DI – I am not the person to contact for this section. But what I referred – DI A Question A Day on PG, the book on puzzles by George Summers (hardly solved any, but helpful), and of course CAT oriented problems.

On CAT on a whole:

One thing I agree with Munira L on this - the sectional percentiles do matter, but what matters more is the overall percentile. If the overall percentile is low, you are directly out of the race. Though its slowly moving to the stage when the cutoffs wud be sectionally 99/99/99 and overall 99.5. The day is not far when this too will happen..

On GD/PI:

I attended IMS only – so cant comment much on the others. But this is where there is maximum preparation required on the personal front. I could probably do much better here coz of the confidence I had in myself. Make sure you get a hold of the workshops which IMS/TIME/CL conduct – they are really decent and a very good practice. I am always reachable on PG for help on this phase of the preparation (might not be a very good contender for the previous phase )

On the personal front:

1: Be sure of where you are now, where you want to be, and how would an MBA bridge the gap between the two. Only then can you jump into the ocean of preparation for these entrances – else its useless – believe me.

2: Pagalguy.com. Only this site would give you info, reviews, opinions from thousands of people who have made it, and loads of loads of trivia. I don’t think I need to say more about how to tackle CAT mentally/physically etc. Believe me, its more a game of the mind than of anything else. As so many others have said, get out of the hype surrounding it, and be a winner . Most importantly, (its tough but try it) – be yourself when the time is cricical – around ten to fifteen days countdown to CAT, on the day before, and of course on that day. It will always have surprises, and the aura of the unexpected. Its how you wish to tackle these things, by being prepared and being confident, or by thinking that after all its only an exam . Refer Pagalguy for words of wisdom from Chandoo, PsychoD, Orca, vinz and several other veterans on hundreds of different threads. Since I began on CAT, there has been almost no day when I haven’t checked PG – it has become a part and parcel of my life – and will be so too. In the words of Amit Saboo, it is really a goldmine that Allwin discovered 5 years back.


How I believe the CAT should be:

In the current world scenario, I believe that the CAT should have some subjective stuff also, probably an objective screening test, and then a second level test accompanied with essays, SOP’s, situational problems etc. This would screen out the real managers from those who make it through plain IQ. Of course following this can be the GD/PIs. The hype surrounding the supposedly 2 lakh aspirants would also be diminished in this case – as those who are worthy, and know why they need to pursue a career in management would be differentiated from those who don’t.


Signing off for now with a ‘kind of’ satisfied feeling. The calm mind is yet to see another storm, and even more thunder – the next 2 years promise to be two of the most gruelling years of my life – and yet the most fun-filled. Looking forward to an even more enriching phase of life now .


Ashish Kolvalker

MDI PGP-HR
(Batch of 2007-09)

Absolutely man...after an attempt at it this year, ive realized that it is more of a mind game than anything else. I experienced extreme mood swings in the examination hall, was elated on seeing the DI section and falling flat when trying to attempt the dreaded quant section.

Kudos to your determination dude..rock on in life!!!

[getintoiimb]

And finally i am posting on this thread!!!
before i post my CAT sojourn let me post my profile and my flops this season..


I work with Infy and got 2.3 yrs of work ex..decent acads and extra currics..
wrote CAT 07,XAT 08,IIFT and JMET this season..rejects in all 4..quants has been
my nemesis this season..well my ambition to do an MBA started off in 2003 in
college..The first time i read abt CAT was when the CAT 2003 paper leaked and
there was big news..That was when i knew about IIM's though iknew about XLRI
long time back..It all started off in college and was planning to do an mba
sometime..i come from a middle class family and in 2005 i decided to do an MBA
but lotsa of my friends were preparing for CAT 04..i used to just look at their
mode of preps..i studied near madurai and guys in coll used to go to class for
weekends when i used to play cricket for my district during weekends..days passed
and in 2005 came placements and i was the placement co ordinator for my batch..
almost all the guys got placed in college and i was the loner one who wasnt placed..
it was then i decided to gve CAT 05..after coming back home from graduation i didnt
have a job and i started preparng for CAT 05 with lotsa determination in my mind..
preps started from may end..i just got the books from my frend who made it to an IIM
and started off.i enrolled for the SIMCATS and preparing judiciously..my percentiles
in the SIMCATS never went below 90.i still remember my lowest was 90.34..as my prep
went on my mother asked me to look for a job as a backup..so i was doing 2 things
simultaneously..

I got a job with DHL initially for a sales and marketing profile(still wondering how i managed to get this!!)..since i was preparing for CAT i jus wanted to
try for Infosys as well..Infosys test was simple because i was preparing for CAT..I
made it to Infosys as well..so having 2 job offers and a good score in SIMCATS i was confident of making it to the IIM's..i applied only to IIM's and MDI then..just 1 month before CAT disaster struck..my father lost his job!he was the sole earner in the family
and at that stage i got a job from Infosys..CAT 05 was on nov 20th and my Infosys joining date was 21st with 20th as the reporting day,the same dats as CAT 05..Though my father lost his job i was preparing hard with 99+ in the last 2 SIMCATS..1 week before CAT my father fell very sick and he couldnt find a job..we had a lots of loans and debts to be paid,which i am still paying..so i had no other go than to take up the Infosys offer..i had to be at mysore on 20th and i had to give up my CAT dreams because i have a younger brother..so atleast for his education purpose i had to take up the job..I was
totally shattered though i had no other choice..That was the first time in my life that i went into a huge depression(dont want to recall those days)..


I knew i had a chance to make it to the IIM's but my personal life gave me no other option.My passion for CAT and the IIM's just were out of the box..i took time for me to come out of the depression but I had to be more practical than being emotional..Then came 20th november 2005..i boarded the train from central to mysore with a heavy heart..I was travelling in the train and was telling myself
"it's 10.30 now and the CAT exam would have started and im currently travelling in the train"..i was heavily disappointed..people in the train were starring at me and would ahve definitely thought that this guys is nuts!!! I couldnt just think about anything except CAT..i reached mysore and a week later many of my training batchmates were
talking about the CAT paper as i was already depressed..i knew there was no point in
getting into a discussion..days passed by and my dad got a super job offer and settled in
chennai..things started to fall in place..i got posted to chennai and i thought of giving CAT 06..had a chat with a friend of mine who was then in IIM-B..he jus told me
"why dont you give CAT with some 2 yrs of work ex?"..

I thought it was a sensible one and just chucked prep for CAT 06..i wrote CAT 06 though just for the sake of giving CAT and to get the CAT factor inside my mind..days went by and in nov 2006 just one week before CAT i joined PG..i found PG as an MBA forum with the majority of the people having the burning desire and just one desire in their stomachs - IIM's!!!!I wanted to make it to IIM Bangalore as my id says..so i created my PG id getintoiimb...i started to post on PG from then on..after CAT 06 i didnt have any material to prepare for CAT 07..i joined IMS as a full time classroom student..had classes on weekends..my preps started right from december..i think this is one reason for me to fail this season..


i took too much pressure on myself to bell the CAT..i was preparing very hard till may and in june i completely lost focus and ran out fo steam..i was off track and till august i couldnt pull my socks up...i was really tired..in august the SIMCATS started and i was also giving the AIMCATS..my first few AIMCATS were disastrous with the lowest being 54 %tile..i wasnt doing well in quant..then as the D-day was fast approaching i decided to more of quant...concentrated on quant and it helped..my percentile in mocks touched 95
in quant alone..my last 5 TIME AIMCATS were the best..all of them 99.xx..i was high in
confidence..in the mean time my reputation at office was at stake..i was mostly on bench or in projects for a max of 1 month each..i bunked the last 3 weeks before CAT saying typhoid as a reason..everyone in office were taking leave and it was obvious it was
for CAT..during those 3 weeks i was doing only mocks..i was fully geared up for CAT 07..
then came the night before D-Day..i was very tense because i knew i had to crack CAT this time at any cost..i somehow managed to sleep that night for a couple of hours..next day i went to my centre and went to my hall..just told myself "i was waiting for 2 yrs for this and lets maul it"..after i got my paper i had a slight uneasiness after seeing the Quant section..i knew its gonna be tough..started with VA and did lotsa questions in 40 mins..moved onto quant..did a few but got them mostly wrong..did quant for 55 mins..then moved onto DI and did 15 qns in 45 mins..thanks to some super calculation mistakes that i got a miserable 54 percentile in DI(DI was my strenght in the CAT 05 season)!!!!!



i knew it was all over after giving CAT 07 though had the lightest of my hopes alive..
gave IIFT,JMET and XAT but all in vain..quants was my nemesis again..my overall percentile in CAT was 70.37 with only verbal being decent wiht 93.94..quants was 40 %tile and DI 54 %tile..i was dissapointed but i knew it was all over on nov 19th itelf..XAT was similar with QA 45 %tile,VA 75 %tile and LR 95 %tile..I missed IIFT by 1 mark..JMET my VA went for a toss..CAT would have taken a lot of things from me but not 2 things
1.My confidence
2.Pagalguy.com
my advice to future and current aspirants is please treat CAT as another exam and dont take up too much pressure on yourself and hype the exam like how the media is currently doing..just stay the same as you are..eat,sleep do what you want..dont refrain from working in office like how i did..it add's more pressure to you in both the front's..i am currently undergoing it..but 2 things CAT showed me was
1.who my true friends are
2.just be yourself



inspite of so many flops i just came to know who my true friends are and who still call up and tell me "dude,there is always CAT 08..dont give up..u can do it"..I thank the Chennai PG junta especially for being with me all the time..well after looking at this flopshow ppl might think this might be my last shot at CAT..Certainly not!!!
we have so many guys on this forum who have belled the CAT 3rd or 4th time..seeing them,CAT 08 for me is my 3rd shot..
i would start preparing only by may..i am highly disappointed but life moves on..
i am not changing my PG id because as i look at this id it indicates my failure and i get more motivated to bell the CAT..
This CAT 07 journey has been an enthralling experience and whether i belled the CAT or not i met a group of ppl with the same ambition..i promise to give 100 % for CAT 08 and come back to this thread and post my success story..I may not have cracked the CAT but im happy i got an oppurtunity to meet some of the best brains in the country through PG and i will definitely miss the Chennai PG meets in the future..made loads of friends on PG..I will miss all you Chennai and bangalore puys!!!
ALL THE BEST to all and convert all your calls
and make history!!
GOD BLESS!!!


P.S : sorry if my journey to CAT was bugging!