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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 13-02-2008, 11:01 AM

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We have to write a summary??? I didn't know that!!!
Pls read the post above urs...stop raising such rhetorical question here..serves no purpose ...if u have ne queries regarding the process pls be more specific so that it adds value to the discussion here
   
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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 13-02-2008, 01:01 PM

I had my I interview yesterday at IIM B.

X 93.2%
XII 81.8%

Btech in Mech from IIT D 2007 passout 8.04/10

Work Ex - 7 months

GD - It was a case study abt a guy called duleep who was very honest and ethical. He was working in a software company which was charging 3 times to its old customers for renewal of the services as compared to the new customers. He found this very unethical and took this issue to his boss. The boss didnt listen to him. Now what shud he do?

It was a pretty mild GD. I personally thought tht it was not really a issue of ethics. It was a marketing strategy which was perfectly justified. But the grp felt the other way. I was really jittery in my approach ( I dont know y?). My GD performance was below average and I could not write a decent summary also.

I was 6th in my panel so had an idea wat panel was doing. For all other guys ( even with 4 yrs of Work ex) it was 80% acads. So I was expecting the same for me too.

There were 2 panelists P1, P2.

P1 So you are a honest person? What do you mean by that?
me Madam, I dont do wrong things. I dont do things which I consider wrong.
P2 Which you consider wrong or which others consider wrong?
me Which I consider wrong.
P1 So you mean you are a person of ethics
me yes madam

p2 where do u work and what is your profile?
me blah blah blah...( I also spoke abt certain stat techniques which we use in my company)

( After this they went deep into stats...asked me abt SEM, Multiple regression, PLS etc etc etc)

I knew the basic stuff so was able to answer. But when they started going into further details, I told them that I was working as a domain consultant and was required to know only the basic stuff. For deeper understanding, we have a stats team. They didn't really accept my argument but moved on.

After this they went on my BTP ( THermal analysis of billet in hot extrusion). I explained them in detail what I had done. I guess they were not really familiar with this stuff. Asked some really vague questions.

Finally they told me that a bit more clarity is expected from a person who has studied in such a esteemed institute. They offered me a biscuit and tht was it.

Overall so so kinda thing!
   
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Exclamation Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 05:27 AM

I think IIM Professors before coming for an interview go through discussions in popular forums like PG, and come well prepared for interview, the other day everyone here told that interviewers were not stressing much on acads but yesterday we saw interviewers in Hyderabad stressed too much on acads, right from start till end.. even for old guys who have abt 4yrs of work ex... No wonder even this is read by interviewers today.
...So Puys who read the experiences put up here, dont draw any conclusions it is just one trial. you may even expect an exact opposite of the same.
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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 08:45 AM

Ready reckoner :
Acad -> Comp. Sci -> AJAX , Remote desktop + Who created it , What is DBMS
Acad -> Principles of Managment -> Explain everything you can remember , Line and Staff
Acad -> TQM -> What is it , one person who is the father figure of TQM
Acad -> Eng. Economics -> Diff. between it and managerial economics,Demand Elasiticity
Acad -> Project -> Project basics and its usefulness

General -> PagalGuy -> Do you visit it , what use is it to you
General -> Ethics -> Is it correct to collect information about people?
General -> Out of Box -> Is it possible to collect personal info without the person knowing?

Work -> You seem to be technical out and out. There seems to be no managerial learning in your work experience. Please explain this.

(Lots of times while going thorough previous experiences , i've found it hard to read through entirely to find out the topics which were asked it PI , so i just wrote those on the top for easy access later)

Part I: The Set-Up
I'm an engineering who passed out in 2007 from SSN College of Engineering.
Computer science specialization - aggregate of 80. School aggregates of 88 and 88.
I am currently working in cognizant for the past 7 months.
Hobbies: (as mentioned in form)
Reading books , monopoly , playing games , puzzles , Mafia

Part II: The Hook
Work had been killing me for the past two weeks. After a recent transfer to a different work stream in the same project, i could find that the work load had increased loads since i also had to do the various status calls and work splitting.
This meant lesser time for prep. But i did have time to read previous year experiences and prepare from that - I prepared about State knowledge, Company , home town, interests and the various political organizations like SAARC and such. No time for acads.

I took the previous day as a holiday to get things ready for the interview. Everything went according to plan , except for the fact that the doctor i had to get attestation from didn't turn up in time. It was very late when i got the sign from him and I really had to rush to my train after that. So if there's one piece of info you take from this Experience , let it be this : Go get your attestations and make sure all your documents are in order well before time - DO NOT leave it to the last minute.

I reached Banglore on the day of the interview at 5 . Checked into the hotel - Completed the rest of the form. Had a quick light breakfast and started off.

Part III: The Tale
My interview was inside IIM B campus. Had to wait for ten minutes or so since we were the first day , first slot there and it started off. There were 8 in a batch - one person was a no show so we started the GD with 7.

U shaped table with the Panel sitting opposite the smaller end of the U.

Topic : Amar (i think) shifted from a public sector steel company to a private sector eucalyptus plant. He had better designation,pay and perks here. He really enjoyed the first few months of his new company. But a problem arose soon. He was used to placing orders of 25 lakhs in his steel company before , but now after becoming AGM here he found that he could not do the same even with the higher post without getting approval from his GM. He felt like his wings were clipped and submitted his resignation.
What should he do?

We had 5 min to think . 16 min to discuss and 5 min for summary.

It was more like 5 min to think. 8 min to discuss when we were cut short abruptly and 2 min for summary.

Spoke twice - once in the end after he said 'Mr.Siddharth , what do you think?'. After my reply , he said GD was over and for us to start writing summary.

Part IV: The Sting

2 people in the panel. One lady and one gentleman (L and G).
I was called sixth - it was in the order of seating.

L (looking over the file) : I'm very curious about this Mafia psychological game . Tell me more about it (I had written it in interest)
Me : <explained it although i have a feeling i could have done a better job>
G : So do you visit PagalGuy?
Me : <with smiles> Yes i do
G : Did you visit today morning? Yesterday?
Me : I visited the site day before yesterday
G : So why do you go there ? Is it useful?
Me : Yes it is. It helps a lot - like for example i was reading the previous year I experiences there to get a feel for the questions
L <smiling> : So you're trying to guess the possible questions?
Me : No no - i'm trying to spend my time in a more constructive manner- rather than read random things - I'm better off reading topics which have more chances of being on the actual interview.
<The interview was pretty feel good right here>

G : So you've done training in java. Can you tell me about ajax?
Me : I know its asynchronous java but i did my training in core java and we do not use this technology in our project.
G : Could you make me understand ajax?
Me : No sir. I really do not understand it myself
L : What is Database Management System?
Me : Explain about DBMS and data warehouse too.

L : So you've had a subject called Principles of Management?
Me : Yuppers
L : I know you wont remember everything but try to tell us what and all you've learnt from it
Me : Well first the subject talks about Organizational structure -line and staff ..
G : Oh ho. Whats line and staff?
Me : <me and my stupid mouth :S> Wave my hands in mid air saying hierarchy is line while advisory sort of posts is staff.
G : Is sales line or staff?
Me : Sales division in line. Sales advisor to the president is staff.
L : Hmm , you've also had TQM. What is TQM all about?
Me : TQM is about all encompassing quality in all phases of product development - from the first to the last
L : So what about processes?
Me : Oh ya. Processes and services too
L : Hmm . You've had a subject called EEFA - engineering economics and financial accounitng
What is engineering economics - how different is it from managerial economics?
Me : Well i've read books on managerial economics too and my text book on EEFA covered the same topics so i guess they are the same.
L <nodding> : Ok , so what is elasticity of demand?
Me : Gives formula . Change in price / Change in demand. Gives the example of Business class in airlines being price inelastic since business people have to travel and do not react to changes in price that much.

G : Hmm tell me about software you would use to connect from one system to work on another system
Me : Remote Desktop
G : Ok who created it?
Me : I think it is built into the OS itself
G : No no - you have to install it
Me : is it? I always thought it was inbuilt
G : Have you used it?
Me : Yes . I used it to connect to my system while giving presentations in seminar hall during work
G : Ok - it is not built into the OS
Me : Okies <sheepish smile>

L : Ok back to TQM. Who comes to your mind when we talk about quality?
Me : <Why couldn't we have spent more time in eco> The one guy who's know for quality?
L : Yes , the one guy who pioneered TQM
Me : Demming ?
L <with negative nodding> : Are you sure?
Me : No but that the main name i remember from the TQM learning.

L <semi sarcastic> : Is this the topic on which you did your project on? (I had mentioned my project in a big way in the form)
Me : No no - that was a technical project - about face detection

<insert one or two questions about face detection and its uses which i successfully answered with the help of an example>

L : Is collecting information ethical?
Me : Like?
L : Like me giving my info to hotel
Me : It is unethical if they share with some other third party without your authorization like a tourist agency
L : No no - i meant why do they need such info in the first place? is it ethical to collect info like that about me and use it?
Me : I think its unethical if they use your particular info but what they do is to club you into one demographic where you just become a statistic , so thats fair enough
L : Ok - what if I lie?
Me : Well , the number of people who will lie will be statistically lower so its still useful to collect the info.
L : Is it possible to collect info without me knowing? Like assume you are sitting in the hotel reception desk - how can you collect my details without me knowing?
Me : I'd snap a picture of you in the security camera and give it to a detective agency to find out your details . <Thinking back - this was pretty weak>

G : You seem to be technical out and out. There seems to be no managerial learning in your work experience. Please explain this.
Me : explain that even though i do technical work , i try to get managerial learning out of everything i do. I try to help my team leads out so that i can do estimation stuff and be informed of the high level work instance of just the technical aspect of it. I also tell them how i've learnt about leading people since i'm the one who actually distributes work and makes sure its done once my leads assign work to the group

L : Thank you and all the best
G : Thank you
Me : Thank ye's

My thoughts : The GD was a debacle since i did not talk at all except two points (which were well accepted though). I made up for it by talking a lot during the interviews - Usually i give a lot of tacit replies. But my own feeling is that i needed to have done a lot better in this to make up for the GD. I do not think i'll be converting this call.

Climax :
Updating this on May 1st 2008. Converted and going to IIMI

(And if you've no idea what the headings i used were about , then you should watch more films )


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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 09:23 AM

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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 01:11 PM

Background
10th : 83.2
12th : 95.4
BE Mechanical from BITS,Pilani : CGPA 8.8
Work Exp : 3.5years

There were 6ppl for GD. It was a case about a guy Ram whose does audit and finds out some problems.
His boss wanted him not to put forth this problem. what should he do?
A very quiet gd. Everyone spoke. nothing much to discuss. Everyone reapeating the same points.

Interview was not more than 7mins.
I was 2nd for interview. 2 panel members , Male Professor(MP), Female Professor(FP).
They asked my certificates and LP was looking thru them.

MP : Tell something abt ur family background.
Me : Started with my dad working in bank and mom housewife.

MP : ok. Tell something abt urself.
Me : Started from school, to college to workplace.
Before entering extra curriculars, MP stopped me.

MP : U have 42 months work exp., why dont u do an executive mba in IIM.
Me : 2 years will give a strong foundation for management education

MP : Why dont u go for part time mba?In IIM Indore, the same profs will take classes for both.
Me : College life will also teach a lot. BITS was a good experience for me. (He stopped me)

MP : Some qs in mechanical - What is force, torque?
Me : answered

MP : What is tonnage in air conditioning?
Me : I dont know

MP : how combustion happens in engine?
Me : In petrol engine - spark plug. In diesel engine - compression and hence high pressure and temp.

MP : Talk like a mechanical engineer.
Me : Explained Working of Petrol engine.

MP : What work in office?
Me : explained.

LP : What is binomial and poission distribution?
Me : I dont remember the definititons, but I know that tossing a coin is an ex. of binomial distribution.

MP : What are ur achievements at workplace?
LP : He is the star performer last year.
Me : Added something abt the work i did last year.

MP : One more question. Who is the CM of Kerala?
Me : V.S.Achutanandan.

MP : Who is the Vice President of India?
Me : It was Bairon Singh Shekhawat. But now it's a new person. Dont remember the name.

MP: Your interview is Over
Me : Thank You.
   
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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 06:04 PM

Overall Percentile: 99.75
DI:97.81
QA:99.74
VA:95.34

X: 75% (CBSE)
XII: 78.8 (CBSE)
Graduation: 76.5% (BIT Mesra)
Work EX: 0.5 years infosys
Extra currics: a bit of badminton

venue iim bangalore
time 2:00 pm
gd topic- some guy caught in the dilemma of marrying either his collegue with whom he started his venture or the guy's daughter of the person who is an influential industrailist..also he as decided to acquire a big company...
third person to speak and gave 3 original points...entered 4-5 times....

panel--two mail prof M1, M2 and a lady prof Lp
interview questions
M1:work in infosys..tell me something about ur work
me: told about design, coding and other things
M1:difference between software engineer and hardware engineer
me: stuck and from then on it was a slide...was screwed big time....these are the few ques they asked
M1:who designs compiler?
M2:biocon and its poducts
M2:what are the other companies
M2:differentiate between biocon and ranbaxy(product wise)
M1:vaccines and antibiotics
LP:use of biotechnology in consumer durable products
M1residential rule and the current states under it(could only say bout karnataka)
M1:what happens uring the presidential rule

seems they were not impressed by what ever was written in the form as no ques was asked from it......lasted for only 10-12 mins...

Time it forget IIM I and go for the next one.....
Other calls
IIMK- 8th Mar
IIMC- 13th Mar
   
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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 07:11 PM

Hi,
Just had my IIM I gd pii today.

CAT 07 - 99.94
BLACKI

ACADS
X - 94
XII - 94.33
fresher....(BITS Pilani Goa Campus) 3rd year cgpa - 9.94/10 (electronics and instrumentation)
extracurrics decent...not too bad

Gd was about guy called pranab who is in an ethical dilemma as to whether to marry his love and girlfriend Rupali or marry the girl of his father's choice Shalini(Shalini father sponsoring pranab's business)...

There were no points to discuss as such....we exhausted all possible avenues by 10th minute....after that all points were either repeat or rubbish ....but we magaed to keep it going till the 16th min( alloted time)....8 ppl in the gd....decenet affair overall....all got a chance,......think i did fairly well...brought up 2-3 new points...contributed bits and pieces here and there...


Interview was a nightmare......
two panelists....males both....m1.....m2....myself I

m1: tell us something bout your extracurrics.....m2 looking at me as if i were particularly repellant insect who should not have dared to apply to iim-i
I: blah blah bloo bloo.....
m1: u have studied instrumentation....m2 still giving that look
me:yups
m1: what is underlying priciple of instrumentation
I:got confused here...no underlying priciple as such..still did some blah blah bloo bloo......they didnt look too satisfied
m1: what is a singular matrix
I : confused again....blurted out unit matrix defintion
m1: sure...
I: no....blurted out correct definition this time round...
m1: sure...
me: not totally..
m1: okies...moving on...u read jeffrey archer
I:yups
m1: tell me something about him
I: blah blah...told life history etc etc
m1: why did he go to jail...what books he wrote there...
I: told books...didnt know why jail..
m1: what is damping in instrumentation
me:confused again....but got mind back on track...gave correct answer....could have been more confident though
m1: give damping example
I:gave
m1: rank of sania is
I:assuming sania mirza being talked about...gave correct rank
m1: what is pascal's law
I: no idea
m1: ill give hint
I: okay give
m1: hint given
I: still no idea
m1: thank you...your itnerview is over...you may go now...m2 look still going on

lasted six- seven minutes.....m2 spoke not a word....dunno what they judged bout me in this time with these q's...no why mba....etc etc.....dunno what to make of this also.....has anyone else had such a short interview.????....
   
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Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 07:35 PM

Had my Indore Interview today at Hyderabad.
Profile :

10th : 87%
12th : 96%
B.E. : 83%
CAT : 99.57 percentile

GD : A case where an Accountant Ram finds some mistakes in the Auditing of a non-profit company. He comes to know that his boss had done it last year. Reports it to him. But the Boss asks him to keep quiet and threatens him to not report it. What to do??? Should he report or follow his Boss's instructions...

Was a cool GD...came into GD many times.

Interview :
Y: young professor , O: old Professor, M:Me
O: Tell me about yourself
M : blah...blah
O: Stopped in between and asked me about my college....
M: answerd.
O: If you are to become an entreprenuer what business will you start???
M: I would start a transport company sir.... (I had this question in my mind)
There after he asked me many questions about this business...I was able to answer this quie well......
O: Why are the fishermen warned to not go into sea at the time of heavy monsoon rains???
M: (what the hell...... thye would lose their lives...)said it...
O: But then there is no means of living for them???
M: (So....)Of course but life is precious than it right!!!
O: What would you do if you were district collector and you have to send warning messages to fishermen...they would not agree and still go because there is no means????
M: I would provide some means of living in the monsoon seasons...such as breeding fishes, crabs, etc...in a lake near the sea.....
O: Then they can do it always right......no need to catch fish in the sea...everybody laughs....
M: ((I suppose he did some research about the lives of fishermen.....)) yes sir.....
O: fine.....who is the CM of Orissa...
M: dont know....(..I am from A.P....)
O: CM of M.P.....
M: Dont know.....(got it he is asking about neighbouring states.....next one is CM of Maharashtra..then Karnataka....)
O: So you are not so good in Current Affairs.....
M: No sir...(just because I didnt know the names of CMs of other states he has decided )
O: Tell me about AP then???
M: Told the issue of Telangana.....Naxalism...Farmers...spoke for more than one min....
O: fine...you please(to Y)
Y: You are a Mechanical Engineer.....
O: Yes sir....
Y: What is the difference between Refrigeration and air-conditioning...
M: told....
Y: What is Carnot Engine???
M: Told..
Y: Different types of steels.....
M:told....
Y: How is hardness measured for Materials???
M: mentioned names of some hardness tests....
Y: What are Linear equations??? Non linear equations...
M: told....
Y: How do you solve them???
M: some methods....Gauss Elimination..
Y: Waht are non-linear non homogenous equations???
M: Not sure....
Y: thats it!!!!!

I feel it was a nice interview lasted for 20 minutes......I was able to answer convincingly some 80% of the questions....
Hope to clear this....
   
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Thumbs up Re: [2008] IIM Indore GD/PI Experiences - 14-02-2008, 08:29 PM

Hi Puys,

Today I had GD/PI of IIM I

Profile:
CAT: 99.12
calls: A,K,I

X: 73.3
XII: 74.2

B.Tech from IIT Roorkee, Pulp and Paper, CGPA: 7.49

Work ex: 2.5 years, with Infy, workin on its Banking product

GD: It was a case (as already mentioned by someone) of a guy named Ram working under Bharath. He faces a dilemna, works in an audit company, finds error done by his boss, if he reports his promotion is at stake, otherwise comapny might lose its repo...
I spoke 4-5 times, made a decent contribution...thanks to TIME people
Almost everybody had the same view...that he should report the error...hehehe

summary: We were told that 5min wud b given for summary...tghey took our paper after 2.5 mins...I just wrote 5-6 lines

PI:
LI(lady interviewer, MI: male interviewer)
I was the second last to be interviewed....

MI:So you are from different background, where else in india we have such insti...
me: blah blah...

then there were lots of Acads question...except one or two I answered all of them...

MI: which companies use Finacle(I work in it, and was prepared for this ques)
me: gave the names

MI:wt bout SBI
me: it use one of TCS

MI: name:
me: Bancs

MI: what are the other banking produts in market
me: gave the names

LI: So u r from ranchi...why it is famous..
me: its city of lakes and falls

LI: was it capital b4
me: Yes summer capital b4 indipendence

LI: and...
me: blah blah...

LI: Is there any benefit u see after formation of Jharhand?
me: Yes infra is improved...more we can see as time passes...

LI: now tell me about telengana
me: blurted something...she was not satisfied.

MI: whats the different b/w volleyboll and beach volleyball.(I took it as elective)
me: dunno (thought of saying that we wear less clothes)

MI,LI : Thanks it was nice interviewing you, u can go

Overall it was a nice experience for me

I suggest you all to be prepared for Acads question...Most of us were asked lot of question from Acads irrespective of work ex

All the Best Puys


Vishal
(On my journey from DILBERT to DOGBERT)

Converts: IIM I, K, FMS (both) ,NITIE, MDI, IIT B
Joined: IIM K
Batch 2008-10
   
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