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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 23-06-2008, 08:58 AM

hi puys,
found this article in education times this morning...

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AN MBA AT A PRESTIGIOUS B-SCHOOL ABROAD MAY SEEM LIKE AN ELUSIVE DREAM FOR MANY, BUT MARIE FIELD EXPLAINS HOW YOU CAN RECOVER THE COST OF AN INTERNATIONAL MBA FASTER THAN YOU THINK



Business school is an investment: an investment of time, resources and money. Some candidates who wish to pursue an MBA programme, will look into the costs of the course and dismiss it out of hand, shocked at both the financial and personal costs they are likely to incur. Others will realise the potential benefits of this prestigious international business qualification and understand that with decades of working life ahead of them, the benefits of moving careers, an increasing salary and the potential of international networks over the next 40 years, an MBA will be one of the most valuable investments they can make.
Despite the value of such an investment, the initial costs of an MBA are expensive, particularly for Indian students. Having a rough idea of how long it will take to regain the money spent on your programme — known as Return on Investment (ROI) — can be reassuring.
Tools like QS Search and Scorecard (www.topmba.com/scorecard) provide customised results pertaining to your particular situation.
For example, an Indian MBA candidate wanting to study in the UK may find Lancaster, Oxford, and Ashridge will likely provide the best ROI. That is, 20 years following business school graduation, the percentage of the amount invested in tuition costs will be highest after attending one of these schools, as opposed to others.The results show the amount of time, according to the average salaries for graduates from those schools, to repay the investment they have made in paying for the course. It is not necessarily an indicator that salaries are extremely high after graduating from these schools,though they certainly can be,but ROI is one of the key priorities an aspiring MBA candidate should consider.
As an example, Scorecard can examine the ROI of three different schools offering different programmes — a twoyear programme at a top US school, a two-year programme at a less competitive school, and a one-year programme at a business school in the European Union (EU).
Harvard, Rutgers, and INSEAD will be used to demonstrate the above. The following results are based on a female with two years work experience and a pre-MBA salary of US$40,000, employed by a company with fewer than 5,000 employees.
Top US school, Harvard will require an investment of approximately US$147,000, yet the average graduate can expect about a 47% salary increase (this figure will vary depending on the graduate’s post-MBA occupation). Therefore, we can predict an approximate time period of seven years to ‘break even’,ie,to regain the cost invested in the MBA programme.
Attending Rutgers will cost the student approximately US$108,000 for the two-year programme. In comparison to Harvard graduates, the MBA graduate from this university can expect about a 69% increase in her salary, resulting in only a five year period to ‘break even’.
Graduates of the one-year MBA programme at INSEAD in France can expect approximately a 55% increase in their salary, post-MBA. As the tuition cost is US$90,000, we can conclude that it would take about four years to ‘break even’. Cranfield in the UK, yielded similar results.
Khrisan Singh, a graduate of Ashridge, relates, “I grew up with the concept that only the top five schools are the ones worth attending,and that if I didn’t gain acceptance to at least one of them, my dreams of becoming a well-paid, highly educated business professional would be shattered. Once I truly reviewed the facts, keeping in mind that my return on investment is of great importance, I learnt that the best investment doesn’t necessarily correlate to the best-known institution, and that the skills I would learn throughout my MBA aren’t only accessible at the most advertised schools.”
Indian MBA candidates travel worldwide in search of business schools that suit their personal and professional development. The 2008 QS TopMBA Applicants Survey, the world’s most comprehensive survey of those considering an MBA, reveals the US and UK as the two most popular study destinations for Indian students; 86% of Indian students pursue their MBA in the US, 56% head to the UK, and 38% choose Canada. Indian students also head to destinations such as: Singapore (32%), France (24%), Australia (23%), Switzerland (11%) and Spain (10%). Around 30% of students remain in India.
But how do Indian students fund this investment? The majority of Indian students (39%) fund their MBAs from loans, followed by scholarships (36%). To estimate the true cost of completing an MBA, candidates need to take into consideration tuition fees, living, travel and book costs. Course fees have risen in recent years, but salaries and bonuses have also risen and the payback period has actually reduced slightly over the last five years. Nunzio Quacquarelli, managing director, QS and QS World MBA Tour, says salaries for graduate MBAs from top international programmes have increased significantly over the last two years, since 2006. “Average salaries for MBAs graduating from top US schools such as Tuck, Chicago, Wharton and Stanford averaged US$110,000 in 2007 compared to an average MBA starting salary of US$93,500 in the UK and Europe, and an Asian average of US$71,000.”
“To calculate ‘true earnings’candidates should also take into account the ‘sign-on’ bonus offered by many MBA recruiters, and the potential to earn a further US$15,000 during a summer internship,” Quacquarelli says.
Many factors will impact your ROI — from the economy to your post-MBA occupation to the country in which you wish to work after your studies. Programme content, alumni reviews, recruitment statistics, and location in terms of enjoying life outside of the classroom are a few of the many things to consider when choosing a business school.
Ross Geraghty, Editor, TopMBA Career Guide, says,“There are many factors an MBA candidate has to consider. ROI is one of them, but the quality of the faculty, the companies that visit schools to headhunt MBA talent, and the location of the school are also important.
“Traditional rankings like those produced by the Financial Times are static and don’t take into account the candidate’s personal choices or preferences. It’s true that seeing the same names repeatedly will reinforce a student’s opinions, but you also have to remember that those schools will be the most competitive and the hardest to get into. Look closely at the schools’ core content and faculty interests. That, combined with career services and ROI, may be the best guide for you,” adds Geraghty.
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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 23-06-2008, 03:48 PM

Hi All,

It would be great if any of you can give me an analysis of areas where one need to work hard (Like English,Maths etc) based on your experience on cat exam pattern. So I will start working on those first and later i may join any coaching center near by for exams.


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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 23-06-2008, 04:19 PM

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Hi All,

It would be great if any of you can give me an analysis of areas where one need to work hard (Like English,Maths etc) based on your experience on cat exam pattern. So I will start working on those first and later i may join any coaching center near by for exams.


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All 3 sections are equally important and you need to do well
in all the sections..The effort that you put for each section depends on
your skillsets..IMS used to offer free diagnostic test.Call up the nearest IMS center and see if you can take that..Or take a free mock..
You will know where you stand....

CAT is in November....
Are you looking at CAT 2009 ?
If it CAT 08 tat you are talking abt , you should start your prep
right away..Whether or not you join a class , is your choice.
But start preparing .............


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Re: CAT 2008 links for Working Professionals part 3 - 24-06-2008, 02:43 PM

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PART 1

PART 2

PART 3

Though its a bit early for CAT 2008 people i am giving some useful links for ur GD PI preperation . I strongly believe that a strong knowledge on current affairs/ social n biz sector cant be created overnight. So do go through these links on a daily basis and build ur knowlege. It will give huge dividends in future .

PS: I will update the links later

CURRENT AFFAIRS

THE HINDU

TIMES OF INDIA

INDIAN EXPRESS

INDIA TODAY

OUTLOOK

THE WEEK

READERS DIGEST

TIME

FORBES

NEWSWEEK



BUSINESS MAGAZINES/NEWSPAPERS/COLUMNS

1.BUSINESS STANDARD

2.ECONOMIC TIMES

3.MINT

4.FINANCIAL EXPRESS

5.REDIFF

6.SIFY

7.BUSINESS WORLD

8.BUSINESS TODAY

9.OUTLOOK BUSINESS

10.BUSINESS LINE


IBEF
ibef contains mainly statistical data w.r.t indian economy. It will be really helpful if one can substantiate ones points in a GD with some facts.

WAKEUP CALL
This site helps in comparing the eco specs of India and China

IMS MAX ACHIEVER
This IMS site has very good GD PI articles, experience stories, Case studies etc


INDIAN MBA
A very good site which has detailed articles/ case studies written on current affairs stuff by b school proffs

WHARTON
This link is of Knowledge@Wharton which gives article related to Bis news, Interviews with leaders , Fact sheets etc

MARKETING
A blog about Marketing practices of Indian Companies

MARKETING TRENDS

DOMAIN-B
Almost all that an aspiring management student needs to know about Management

INDIAN ECONOMY

A very useful blog about Indian Economy.Updated daily

HR Blog
A very useful blog by an HR guy

MBADEPOT
Ton loads of MBA stuff

ECONOMYWATCH
Detailed articles/Analyses on world and Indian Economy

(Reality Case Studies)CASE STUDIES
(Reality Case Studies)to be updated......

Rocking links.. thans a ton fella!!
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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 24-06-2008, 03:59 PM

Hi Guys

One of my friends enrolled in TIME correspondence classes for 2008. Later however, he got through in one of the b schools where he was in waiting list. He has the full completely new(untouched and fully packed) first set of material of TIME, which includes books for Quant,LR,DI,DS,VA,RC and lots of others for CAT 2008. It also has the vocab cards(again packed) and magazines given by TIME. He now intends to sell them. It is as good as correspondence material bought new.
Puys from Bangalore who are interested PM me asap.
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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 24-06-2008, 04:29 PM

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Hi All,

It would be great if any of you can give me an analysis of areas where one need to work hard (Like English,Maths etc) based on your experience on cat exam pattern. So I will start working on those first and later i may join any coaching center near by for exams.


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hi!
my take on your question is that - you should find it out for yourself. And the trick here is to take last 2-3 years actual CAT papers and solve them independently (without looking at the solutions at all), and dont even bother to solve the questions in time limit. Take as much time as you need.

Now once you have solved the 2-3 actual CAT papers do an analysis as to what all should be studying to improve your ranks/performance.

Probably no one needs to join a class-room coaching ever; at the max you can join a test-series of ANY coaching institute (although this too wont have much resut actually). Just try to study on the weaker section (indicated by the scores of the 2-3 old CAT papers) and then start taking up full length tests (old or new...all will have the same effect finally).

Hope it helps.
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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 24-06-2008, 08:48 PM

hi people. not exactly a workin professional, but thats what i need some intelligent advice on:
Have just completed my 4years graduation in medicine field (rehabilitation therapy) & have got 3jobs in hand right now. but all the 3 jobs are from 9-6 & very demanding, that is to say, even once i get back home, i'l probably have to spend sum tym on my assignments, regarding my job. hence, i'l have to really stretch it real hard, if i am preparin for CAT. jobs start in july. if i sit idle, i'l atleast get tym to make it till the interview...but if i go for a job, i might not stand a chance to clear the written itself. will 'sittin idle' hamper my chances in the interview? (special consideration to the fact that i am from medicine field)....Besides, would a job , or a research project be a better option?

do revert....
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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 25-06-2008, 01:00 PM

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hi people. not exactly a workin professional, but thats what i need some intelligent advice on:
Have just completed my 4years graduation in medicine field (rehabilitation therapy) & have got 3jobs in hand right now. but all the 3 jobs are from 9-6 & very demanding, that is to say, even once i get back home, i'l probably have to spend sum tym on my assignments, regarding my job. hence, i'l have to really stretch it real hard, if i am preparin for CAT. jobs start in july. if i sit idle, i'l atleast get tym to make it till the interview...but if i go for a job, i might not stand a chance to clear the written itself. will 'sittin idle' hamper my chances in the interview? (special consideration to the fact that i am from medicine field)....Besides, would a job , or a research project be a better option?

do revert....
At times sittin idle affects ur profile...
Coz there will be certainly more people out there who would have scored as much as you...Without even takin an yr off....

So my suggestion wd be to manage both side by side...or take a weekend class that will help you to be regular in ur studies.....
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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 25-06-2008, 01:09 PM

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...justified.html (is dropping for cat justified)

This discussion wd give you more insight to ur problem...


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Re: CAT 2008 for Working Professionals - 25-06-2008, 01:12 PM

I have 2.5 ys of exp after grad. Is it better to go for 1year MBA or 2 years
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