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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 21-06-2008, 12:10 AM

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This is teh first time I shall sit for CAT, and I havent started preparing yet, and don't think I can till around the end of July. Is it too late?
no its not too late.. 3 months r enough to crack it..but it will need serious dedication then go thru previous posts where ppl have discussed various strategies

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http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...008-links.html ([2008-09]CAT 2008 links)

and read the success stories to know how some prepared
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...-about-32.html (All I wanted to Speak about CAT)



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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 21-06-2008, 06:11 AM

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Sorry but I don't believe that!!! This depends largely on the level of familiarity one already has with CAT questions and related ones. If one is quite familiar with them and knows his strengths etc, he could do it in much lesser time, else he would require more.

You would find many people who studied for just around 2-3 hrs in the last 3-4 months and got gr8 %iles, and they are not flukes....
I forgot to mention this that i was talking in general sense.. because i believe nearly 70 % students who are preparing for CAT starts from very basics.. may be more than that..
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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 21-06-2008, 06:20 AM

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Firstly you dont need to go the extreme. Studying ten hours a day is not feasible for any exam. Even your graduation ones. The mind has only so many hours for it to absorb information. Sitting for ten hours a day, for some, may boil down to only three hours of actual studies.

I have attempted CAT twice. My last attempt was my best (managed 90%ile). Like Aninav said, two-three hours does wonders.

Thing is I know that my Verbal and DI are good enough and some work on it may help me. However, Quant is my weakest to I look to improve on it. In such a case its easier for me to squeeze in a three hour schedule.

If this is your first attempt - dont panic. You could manage well enough with a three hour schedule if you have the will.

I feel ten hours per day is a bit too much. But then again there are some people who can do it.

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I believe.. it depends on person to person.. i have seen people studying 10 hrs a day.. frankly.. they take only short breaks.. and do a lot of meditation and a bit of physical exercises to relax their mind.. everything depends how much determined you are..
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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 21-06-2008, 09:02 AM

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I believe.. it depends on person to person.. i have seen people studying 10 hrs a day.. frankly.. they take only short breaks.. and do a lot of meditation and a bit of physical exercises to relax their mind.. everything depends how much determined you are..
hi geek,
you are absolutely right in your statement...
but one thing is to be remembered here...cat is an exam which requires more smart work as compared to the usual hard work...
one must not get overworked while preperation...
if anyone can afford to sit for say 10 hrs or much then its his own capacity...also the burn out doesn't apply to everyone...coz everyone has his own limits...
so its purely a personal way of preperation...


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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 21-06-2008, 10:23 AM

hi! Enrolled for TIME Enchanced test series,yesterday. The counselor said, the complete module contains 20 Mock cats and some take home but no GD /PI workshop included. They did not even give me the two mock papers i missed,saying that 'll be provided later.
can any one who has enrolled for the enhanced package provide me some update regrading the content in this module. Does it include GD PI work shop and personal counseling ...Kindly let me know.

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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 21-06-2008, 10:42 AM

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hi geek,
you are absolutely right in your statement...
but one thing is to be remembered here...cat is an exam which requires more smart work as compared to the usual hard work...
one must not get overworked while preperation...
if anyone can afford to sit for say 10 hrs or much then its his own capacity...also the burn out doesn't apply to everyone...coz everyone has his own limits...
so its purely a personal way of preperation...
well, i completely agree to what u say. Even this is goin' to be my first shot at CAT and b'cause of my hectic work schedule i 'm unable to enroll for the classroom coaching, besides i 'm yet to start with the preparation. All I can say is ,i can devote max 3 hrs for preparation daily not sure if thats enough...Raghav ,if u don't mind ...would you like to share the smart strategy your goin' to implement and how much time u 're goin to devote,may be this could help me as well..
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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 23-06-2008, 08:59 AM

hi puys,
found this article in education times this morning...

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AN MBA AT A PRESTIGIOUS B-SCHOOL ABROAD MAY SEEM LIKE AN ELUSIVE DREAM FOR MANY, BUT MARIE FIELD EXPLAINS HOW YOU CAN RECOVER THE COST OF AN INTERNATIONAL MBA FASTER THAN YOU THINK



Business school is an investment: an investment of time, resources and money. Some candidates who wish to pursue an MBA programme, will look into the costs of the course and dismiss it out of hand, shocked at both the financial and personal costs they are likely to incur. Others will realise the potential benefits of this prestigious international business qualification and understand that with decades of working life ahead of them, the benefits of moving careers, an increasing salary and the potential of international networks over the next 40 years, an MBA will be one of the most valuable investments they can make.
Despite the value of such an investment, the initial costs of an MBA are expensive, particularly for Indian students. Having a rough idea of how long it will take to regain the money spent on your programme — known as Return on Investment (ROI) — can be reassuring.
Tools like QS Search and Scorecard (www.topmba.com/scorecard) provide customised results pertaining to your particular situation.
For example, an Indian MBA candidate wanting to study in the UK may find Lancaster, Oxford, and Ashridge will likely provide the best ROI. That is, 20 years following business school graduation, the percentage of the amount invested in tuition costs will be highest after attending one of these schools, as opposed to others.The results show the amount of time, according to the average salaries for graduates from those schools, to repay the investment they have made in paying for the course. It is not necessarily an indicator that salaries are extremely high after graduating from these schools,though they certainly can be,but ROI is one of the key priorities an aspiring MBA candidate should consider.
As an example, Scorecard can examine the ROI of three different schools offering different programmes — a twoyear programme at a top US school, a two-year programme at a less competitive school, and a one-year programme at a business school in the European Union (EU).
Harvard, Rutgers, and INSEAD will be used to demonstrate the above. The following results are based on a female with two years work experience and a pre-MBA salary of US$40,000, employed by a company with fewer than 5,000 employees.
Top US school, Harvard will require an investment of approximately US$147,000, yet the average graduate can expect about a 47% salary increase (this figure will vary depending on the graduate’s post-MBA occupation). Therefore, we can predict an approximate time period of seven years to ‘break even’,ie,to regain the cost invested in the MBA programme.
Attending Rutgers will cost the student approximately US$108,000 for the two-year programme. In comparison to Harvard graduates, the MBA graduate from this university can expect about a 69% increase in her salary, resulting in only a five year period to ‘break even’.
Graduates of the one-year MBA programme at INSEAD in France can expect approximately a 55% increase in their salary, post-MBA. As the tuition cost is US$90,000, we can conclude that it would take about four years to ‘break even’. Cranfield in the UK, yielded similar results.
Khrisan Singh, a graduate of Ashridge, relates, “I grew up with the concept that only the top five schools are the ones worth attending,and that if I didn’t gain acceptance to at least one of them, my dreams of becoming a well-paid, highly educated business professional would be shattered. Once I truly reviewed the facts, keeping in mind that my return on investment is of great importance, I learnt that the best investment doesn’t necessarily correlate to the best-known institution, and that the skills I would learn throughout my MBA aren’t only accessible at the most advertised schools.”
Indian MBA candidates travel worldwide in search of business schools that suit their personal and professional development. The 2008 QS TopMBA Applicants Survey, the world’s most comprehensive survey of those considering an MBA, reveals the US and UK as the two most popular study destinations for Indian students; 86% of Indian students pursue their MBA in the US, 56% head to the UK, and 38% choose Canada. Indian students also head to destinations such as: Singapore (32%), France (24%), Australia (23%), Switzerland (11%) and Spain (10%). Around 30% of students remain in India.
But how do Indian students fund this investment? The majority of Indian students (39%) fund their MBAs from loans, followed by scholarships (36%). To estimate the true cost of completing an MBA, candidates need to take into consideration tuition fees, living, travel and book costs. Course fees have risen in recent years, but salaries and bonuses have also risen and the payback period has actually reduced slightly over the last five years. Nunzio Quacquarelli, managing director, QS and QS World MBA Tour, says salaries for graduate MBAs from top international programmes have increased significantly over the last two years, since 2006. “Average salaries for MBAs graduating from top US schools such as Tuck, Chicago, Wharton and Stanford averaged US$110,000 in 2007 compared to an average MBA starting salary of US$93,500 in the UK and Europe, and an Asian average of US$71,000.”
“To calculate ‘true earnings’candidates should also take into account the ‘sign-on’ bonus offered by many MBA recruiters, and the potential to earn a further US$15,000 during a summer internship,” Quacquarelli says.
Many factors will impact your ROI — from the economy to your post-MBA occupation to the country in which you wish to work after your studies. Programme content, alumni reviews, recruitment statistics, and location in terms of enjoying life outside of the classroom are a few of the many things to consider when choosing a business school.
Ross Geraghty, Editor, TopMBA Career Guide, says,“There are many factors an MBA candidate has to consider. ROI is one of them, but the quality of the faculty, the companies that visit schools to headhunt MBA talent, and the location of the school are also important.
“Traditional rankings like those produced by the Financial Times are static and don’t take into account the candidate’s personal choices or preferences. It’s true that seeing the same names repeatedly will reinforce a student’s opinions, but you also have to remember that those schools will be the most competitive and the hardest to get into. Look closely at the schools’ core content and faculty interests. That, combined with career services and ROI, may be the best guide for you,” adds Geraghty.
Source: cPanel®.TopMBA.com


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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 23-06-2008, 10:36 AM

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I think many 100 %ilers are joining the coaching bandwagon coz there is no dearth of candidates aiming 4 CAT and everyone(teacher) claiming 2 be better than others. But,you yourselg should verify their efficacy in your preparation.Besides ,every 100 %iler can't be a great teacher.I am living in pune and have attended Byju CAT classes.He also claims to be 100%iler and is starting 4 1st time in pune though he is well known in b'lore. I got info about from Byju from Pagalguy only. His shortcuts are said 2 be of tremendous help in Quant prep. Please verify everything before joining my friend,coz its ur life & career at stake.


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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 23-06-2008, 12:14 PM

hello everyone . i m new to this site. i m writing cat for second time.
i m placed in tcs and have joining in aug 2008 . i wanna join the test series of
some institute. but i have my training of 50 days at tcs.... i m confused wat to do because i will be going to some other place for training so how to continue with tests and how to prepare for CAT-08.....
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Re: CAT 2008 Aspirants - 23-06-2008, 12:22 PM

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hello everyone . i m new to this site. i m writing cat for second time.
i m placed in tcs and have joining in aug 2008 . i wanna join the test series of
some institute. but i have my training of 50 days at tcs.... i m confused wat to do because i will be going to some other place for training so how to continue with tests and how to prepare for CAT-08.....
well afaik about TCS training in trivandrum there u will b given hotels and apart from training hours one get alot of free time where u can put ur efforts for the cause.

among all test series Career launcher provides this option of taking tests in any city u wish. u just need to have ur receipt and ID and a letter from the head of insti where u enrolled urself to allow u to take the test in other center. take the letter and visit the center head of that respective insti and he will provide u with center.
thats all i myself had this exp where half of the mocks i took in one city and rest half in another so dont wry

about prep u carry all ur material with u. and if u get lack of material buy some at the city u will b in if not then take another test series and do it in weekdays that will solve the problem

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