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See Quants and DI of CAT are purely concept based. If you know the concept you are through. I would suggest you brush up on your basics from 10-12 commerce math textbooks.
Would also suggest you to get some books on vedic math. These would be helpful in speedy calculations. And remember, attempts dont matter in CAT, what matters is the accuracy. Attempt a few but ensure that these are correct.
All the best | Guys preparing for my IIM C interview which is coming up in less than a week's time and I came across this post..I thought lemme giv sum gyaan now that I hav cals lol just kidding...dude VEDIC MATHS is unnecessary dont waste ure time on it trust me....Arun Sharma is ohk for english but definitely not for DI coz its too simple and calculation intensive (yea CAT'07 had DI as calculation intensive but still a level better than Arun Sharma definitely) and not for maths either coz there is zero variety and its very repetitive same kind of sums....as for english just pray if u hav god with u like I did  ull sail through this section or else betta luck next time its no way a test of ure spoken english or oratory skills, theres this huge luck thing involved.
But anywayz if u find this helpful here's the best u can refer to, English-Arun Sharma Quant- this book compiled by TIME prof's cant remember the name but TRISHNA Publications. DI-Get holdof some old mock cats. AIMCATS have the tughest DI sections so if u want to practice really tugh sums take these from ure friends.
More than preparing from books just keep solving papers, without any time constraints for now and with proper time limits i the last 3-4 months.
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hi guys...wanna share something with u....please remember ke cat is not about speed....its all about concept...and the competetion is very tough...i socred 96 percentile this time....but i wanna try for iims only......so i am going for cat 2008...anyway found this one.....u have have a look at this mbageeks.com :: View topic - Kill the CAT - Sure Shot 90 Percentile plus... | | | | | | | |
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Originally Posted by varunspidey Guys preparing for my IIM C interview which is coming up in less than a week's time and I came across this post..I thought lemme giv sum gyaan now that I hav cals lol just kidding...dude VEDIC MATHS is unnecessary dont waste ure time on it trust me....Arun Sharma is ohk for english but definitely not for DI coz its too simple and calculation intensive (yea CAT'07 had DI as calculation intensive but still a level better than Arun Sharma definitely) and not for maths either coz there is zero variety and its very repetitive same kind of sums....as for english just pray if u hav god with u like I did  ull sail through this section or else betta luck next time its no way a test of ure spoken english or oratory skills, theres this huge luck thing involved.
But anywayz if u find this helpful here's the best u can refer to, English-Arun Sharma Quant- this book compiled by TIME prof's cant remember the name but TRISHNA Publications. DI-Get holdof some old mock cats. AIMCATS have the tughest DI sections so if u want to practice really tugh sums take these from ure friends.
More than preparing from books just keep solving papers, without any time constraints for now and with proper time limits i the last 3-4 months.
All da best to all!! and wish me the same!  | Well I somewhat disagree with you. Vedic Maths has helped me be quick with my calculations, although it hasn't overnight(I studied it on my own in 2nd yr of clg, just for fun). Although in CAT, speed is not at a premium nowadays but it still helps if you are quick with your calculations. And also, there are other exams.
Regarding Arun Sharma's books, I haven't read his DI one, but I liked his QA one, even though I agree that the problems mentioned don't have the kind of variety that's required. It's only because the concepts are explained very well, in very simple terms and I found it quite good and would surely recommend it to others as well.
But I do agree with the last part of yours, that one should focus on solving papers without any time constraints for now and focus more on the concepts.
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Have talked at length with many seniors over vedic maths and shortcuts inherent ... all came with the same advice - "If you are familiar with it use it but if not leave it altogether.It will sure benefit if used but will take unneccessarily large chunk of time without returning proportionate results.Also chances of goof-ups are not uncommon in initial stages"
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Originally Posted by avinav2712 Well I somewhat disagree with you. Vedic Maths has helped me be quick with my calculations, although it hasn't overnight(I studied it on my own in 2nd yr of clg, just for fun). Although in CAT, speed is not at a premium nowadays but it still helps if you are quick with your calculations. And also, there are other exams.
Regarding Arun Sharma's books, I haven't read his DI one, but I liked his QA one, even though I agree that the problems mentioned don't have the kind of variety that's required. It's only because the concepts are explained very well, in very simple terms and I found it quite good and would surely recommend it to others as well.
But I do agree with the last part of yours, that one should focus on solving papers without any time constraints for now and focus more on the concepts.
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Understand this .. every one has a unique way of ateempting the paper. A person has to focus on his strengths and use it to solve sums. I have known people who have known Vedic Maths and has cracked CAT .. but that guy used to learn vedic Maths for 7 years before he attempted CAT.
Look at the complete opposite .. I dont know anything of Vedic Maths as a matter of fact I do not even know tables .. you ask me 14 x 17 I will have to calculate. But still I manage to score 100%ile in both Math and DI. That is because I have devised my own tricks and turns and I dont waste time on accurate calculations .. rather I use approximations as far as possible.
What I am coming to is .. if you have not done vedic Maths till date .. then dont try to do it as you will be wasting a lot of time learning it. But try and be comfortable with numbers and calculations which should help.
Finally try and come out with methods which are better than what is given in any books such as Arun Sharma or any classes material. Because a lot of students go through the same material .. so the only way you can beat them is to better them by learning new methods which are not there in any books and which is based on your strengths. That would make a difference in getting and not getting a call. | | | | | The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Patrick D'souza For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
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Understand this .. every one has a unique way of ateempting the paper. A person has to focus on his strengths and use it to solve sums. I have known people who have known Vedic Maths and has cracked CAT .. but that guy used to learn vedic Maths for 7 years before he attempted CAT.
Look at the complete opposite .. I dont know anything of Vedic Maths as a matter of fact I do not even know tables .. you ask me 14 x 17 I will have to calculate. But still I manage to score 100%ile in both Math and DI. That is because I have devised my own tricks and turns and I dont waste time on accurate calculations .. rather I use approximations as far as possible.
What I am coming to is .. if you have not done vedic Maths till date .. then dont try to do it as you will be wasting a lot of time learning it. But try and be comfortable with numbers and calculations which should help.
Finally try and come out with methods which are better than what is given in any books such as Arun Sharma or any classes material. Because a lot of students go through the same material .. so the only way you can beat them is to better them by learning new methods which are not there in any books and which is based on your strengths. That would make a difference in getting and not getting a call. | I agree with your views and feel the same way as well regarding Vedic Maths. I highlighted the fact as well that I studied it quite a long time back.
However, regarding books like Arun Sharma, I only referred it for the revision of concepts, which I felt were given in a very nice and simple manner. Once my concepts were absolutely clear, it was not a problem for me to devise my own ways to solve the problems. And although i didn't get a 100 %ile in QA and DI, I managed a decent 99 and 99.37 respectively in them. So this way worked for me and I just thought to share as it may work for some others as well, although not necessary...... | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to avinav2712 For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
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hey guys....m working in a french mnc Areva....n started wid preparration in mid feb...but d consistency is lacking. due to odd office timing....how much time i shud spend ideally to crack d CAt n for IIMs obviouslly..plz help out guys
..so thinking about joining IMS...i already got CL matrl....but if somebdy of u can guide me about a proper scheduleing...or it will be worthed to join ne classes....so that i can maintain a good preparation | | | | | | | |
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Originally Posted by devashishc hey guys....m working in a french mnc Areva....n started wid preparration in mid feb...but d consistency is lacking. due to odd office timing....how much time i shud spend ideally to crack d CAt n for IIMs obviouslly..plz help out guys
..so thinking about joining IMS...i already got CL matrl....but if somebdy of u can guide me about a proper scheduleing...or it will be worthed to join ne classes....so that i can maintain a good preparation | I think you should join weekend classes and practice at home whenever you get time..... I've worked at odd timings as well before CAT '07 and I know what all hassles you must be facing.... Remember that you don't have to spend long hours of study, just concentrate on what you want to study and do it well, absolutely thoroughly. By joining coaching classes, not only you get to study from them, but you also get to ask questions whenever you wish to, unlike when you prepare alone.
Regarding IMS, it's definitely good overall, but you've also got to check it's reputation in your city and also the level of their mock CATs. You should ideally choose the toughest level of mocks so that you're well prepared for CAT.... Amongst PT, TIME and CL, I can certainly say that CL has the toughest mock papers. So what you can do is join IMS(if it's good), and test series of CL. That way, you get the test series of both IMS and CL and it'll give you good amount of practice | | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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