| | Notices | Welcome to the PaGaLGuY.com MBA forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us at info [at] pagalguy.com Enter your actual CAT answers and see how you fared according to various answer keys, all at one place! Using PG Scorecard, you can view your Overall and Sectional Scores,Cut-off and ranks as per the various answer keys. Also you can find out which colleges you can apply to based on your CAT score. Click here
Check out the PaGaLGuY.com Bschool Rankings 2009 on TV. UTVi will be broadcasting a show on the PG Bschool Rankings and it will be rerun on the following times. Take a look and send us feedback :)
Reruns: Saturday, November 22 2008 at 3:30pm and 6 pm
Reruns: Sunday, November 23 2008 at 12:00 noon and 5pm
Rerun: Thursday, November 27 2008 at 5.30 pm
| CAT and Related Discussion An Online Community to share and discuss information in regards to the toughest and most exclusive management entrance exam in India. The CAT - The Common Admission Test. Register yourself and start posting. |
View Poll Results: Caption on the UDT'07 Tee? | |
Chak De.. !
|    | 4 | 12.90% | |
I'm not done yet !
|    | 10 | 32.26% | |
When the going gets tuff , UDT gets going.
|    | 12 | 38.71% | |
Every dog has a day
|    | 6 | 19.35% | |
We will, bcaz we think we can
|    | 4 | 12.90% | |
The Red-Bricked World Beckons !
|    | 9 | 29.03% | |
A A A A A....... My alphabet stops at A !
|    | 6 | 19.35% | |
The Forever BLACKI stealers
|    | 6 | 19.35% | |
BLACKIS of the season!
|    | 6 | 19.35% | |
Beware of the UnderDogs!
|    | 11 | 35.48% | | | | |
http://rankings.pagalguy.com/
Community Leaders
Status: Offline Posts: 1,448 Thanks: 4,463
Thanked 2,059 Times in 713 Posts
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hyderabad Age: 25 | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 10:59 AM
Hey UDT mates
Gave SIMCAT 6 yesterday and it turned out to be not so good mock!!!
First I thought of not posting the score here, but then after seeing the posts from Greenspam and Nitin, thought that it was the last bad mock that I had
Anyways moi scores:
DI - 40
QA - 22
VA - 20
Total - 82
Regarding yesterdays SIMCAT, I don't think that CAT can be on a similar pattern, beacuse you cannot judge anyone with such kinda paper.
3 correct answers in VA would have taken my scores to 44
Just now received a SMS from IMS stating that they will conducting SIMSHOCK on this Sunday  Don't know what can be more shocking than yesterday's SIM
Some good scores by the fellow UDT's  and those who didn't score well don't worry and keep your cool and try to see what went wrong in yesterday's paper
Cheers!!!
Siddharth | | | | | The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to sid_dharth For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
at WIMWI :)
Hardcore PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 678 Thanks: 2,335
Thanked 1,230 Times in 297 Posts
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ahmedabad | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by deep_agrawal Yaar, you not giving 0802? Kuch personal reason hai  or are u planning to miss it on purpose?  | Not giving AIMCAT 802, diwali pe ghar ja raha hoon, thats why.
I will try to give it once I am back in pune, that would depend on my ability to convice TIME guys to give me the mock paper | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to rjt163 For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
Just relax!
Certified PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 1,549 Thanks: 6,693
Thanked 2,236 Times in 624 Posts
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hyderabad | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 11:53 AM
My mock scores
QA : 9.33  I never got a percentile less than 97 this season ...  I am sure I will be back with a 99+ next mock 
VA : 14.67 I am sure will clear the cutoff this time around ...
DI : 12.33 Didn't read the second 2 marker set ... I could solve it in 10 minutes back home
Lots to learn from this mock 
committed a lot of silly mistakes in QA 
Didn't read all questions in DI n QA 
Left one rc completely I got 2 correct back home in 5 mins
Leave questions on ur weaker areas immediately don't waste time ...
Off late I haven't been doing enuf justice to my strength QUANT I will try to do that  in the coming mocks ....
CONGO to Prem anna for a good perf and other puys  Nothing can stop any one of us  ... Have the belief thats all
I have to meet a project deadline on NOV 12 ... Please bear with a lil participation in the coming few days .. I will be back soon  Meanwhile Prepare well and rock on ! | | | | | The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to krsh.vik For This Useful Post: | abhay agarwal (30-10-2007), ashish abraham (29-10-2007), CAT 2007 (30-10-2007), cimbaish_Nitin (29-10-2007), deep_agrawal (29-10-2007), Greenspan (29-10-2007), Jok3r (30-10-2007), macora (29-10-2007), prem_ravi (30-10-2007), reachmonil (29-10-2007), sid_dharth (29-10-2007), the_phantom (29-10-2007), veritas (29-10-2007) | | | | |
njoin life :)
Hardcore PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 284 Thanks: 1,471
Thanked 668 Times in 134 Posts
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: hyderabad Age: 25 | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 12:01 PM
A sense of deja vu n a feeling of dejection  tht sums up the last mock for me. Btw congos to prem bhai n ashish nice score mates  moi scores
DI-6.33(55 mins  Got all the 2 markers tht I attempted wrong n I was so confident bout the cricket set . )
VA-21(45 mins)
QA-24(50 mins)
Wont be clrin the cut-offs for sure . Neways v need to tighten our seat belts n gear up for the big one puys  It is back to square one for me n I have decided to go thru the DI sets of all the mocks tht I have given till now. Hopefully sum hard work ll let me focus on other things thn my mock performance  ATB to u all How can I be so thirsty this mornin whn I drank so much last nite | | | | | The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to veritas For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
reached Jannat
Hardcore PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 669 Thanks: 1,253
Thanked 1,690 Times in 355 Posts
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IIMC | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by krsh.vik I have to meet a project deadline on NOV 12 ... Please bear with a lil participation in the coming few days .. I will be back soon  Meanwhile Prepare well and rock on ! | Same here Vikram. Project deadlines this week.. Cant put in much...
But I will start spamming err posting soon as this phase is over GO UDT GO | | | | | The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to macora For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
is drrrunk
Hardcore PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 296 Thanks: 272
Thanked 602 Times in 144 Posts
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sin City | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 12:24 PM
Theorem: The time left for D-Day is inversely proportional to the amount of silly mistakes one can make..
803 would have been good for me if not for silly mistakes in DI..
Moi scores..
VA - 27.67 (22R 5W)
QA - 18.33 (17R 1 W)
DI - 9.33 (10R 4W)
OA - 55.33
Now.. gotta just gear up and get ready for the take-off.. guess wld take a couple of days off to brush up DI and QA which have been sufferin' to make good of VA..
Also have to work my way around tht theorem..
Somebody post-up some good problems in DI.. in the meanwhile I'll try to post some RCs and VA stuff.. "You laugh at me because I am different, but I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Last edited by satanica; 29-10-2007 at 12:52 PM..
| | | | | The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to satanica For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
is drrrunk
Hardcore PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 296 Thanks: 272
Thanked 602 Times in 144 Posts
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sin City | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 01:49 PM
here's RC practice for U all.. ansers as usual sometime later..
Cheers,
------------- The first and most important rule of legitimate or popular government, that is to say, of government whose object is the good of the people, is therefore, as I have observed, to follow in everything the general will. But to follow this will it is necessary to know it, and above all to distinguish it from the particular will, beginning with one's self: this distinction is always very difficult to make, and only the most sublime virtue can afford sufficient illumination for it. As, in order to will, it is necessary to be free, a difficulty no less great than the former arises — that of preserving at once the public liberty and the authority of government. Look into the motives which have induced men, once united by their common needs in a general society, to unite themselves still more intimately by means of civil societies: you will find no other motive than that of assuring the property, life and liberty of each member by the protection of all. But can men be forced to defend the liberty of any one among them, without trespassing on that of others? And how can they provide for the public needs, without alienating the individual property of those who are forced to contribute to them? With whatever sophistry all this may be covered over, it is certain that if any constraint can be laid on my will, I am no longer free, and that I am no longer master of my own property, if any one else can lay a hand on it. This difficulty, which would have seemed insurmountable, has been removed, like the first, by the most sublime of all human institutions, or rather by a divine inspiration, which teaches mankind to imitate here below the unchangeable decrees of the Deity. By what inconceivable art has a means been found of making men free by making them subject; of using in the service of the State the properties, the persons and even the lives of all its members, without constraining and without consulting them; of confining their will by their own admission; of overcoming their refusal by that consent, and forcing them to punish themselves, when they act against their own will? How can it be that all should obey, yet nobody take upon him to command, and that all should serve, and yet have no masters, but be the more free, as, in apparent subjection, each loses no part of his liberty but what might be hurtful to that of another? These wonders are the work of law. It is to law alone that men owe justice and liberty. It is this salutary organ of the will of all which establishes, in civil right, the natural equality between men. It is this celestial voice which dictates to each citizen the precepts of public reason, and teaches him to act according to the rules of his own judgment, and not to behave inconsistently with himself. It is with this voice alone that political rulers should speak when they command; for no sooner goes one man, setting aside the law, claim to subject another to his private will, than he departs from the state of civil society, and confronts him face to face in the pure state of nature, in which obedience is prescribed solely by necessity. 1. The paradox in line “By what…” is resolved according to the author when an individual A. submits to the rule of law and thus is at liberty to do anything that does not harm another person B. behaves according to the natural rights of man and not according to imposed rules C. agrees to follow the rule of law even when it is against his best interests D. belongs to a society which guarantees individual liberty at all times E. follows the will of the majority 2. The author’s attitude to law in this passage is best conveyed as A. respect for its inalienable authority B. extolling its importance as a human institution C. resignation to the need for its imposition on the majority D. acceptance of its restrictions E. praise for its divine origin 3. The author would agree with all of the following except A. government must maintain its authority without unduly compromising personal liberty B. individual freedom is threatened in the absence of law C. justice cannot be ensured in the absence of law D. political leaders should use the law as their guide to correct leadership E. the law recognizes that all men are capable of recognizing what is in the general interest The tale of Piltdown Man, the most infamous forgery in the contentious detective story of the origins of mankind, began in 1912. On December 18 that year Charles Dawson, a well-known amateur British archaeologist, and Arthur Smith Woodward, of the British Museum of Natural History, announced the discovery of some amazing human fossils. The remains comprised nine pieces of skull, a broken jaw with two teeth in place, a few stone tools, and some animal bones, all of which had been discovered on a farm near Piltdown Common in Sussex. When pieced together the skull looked distinctly human. Although Piltdown Man, as the hominid became known, had unusually thick bones, the brain case was large and rounded. There was no sign of prominent brow ridges or other apelike features. However, the shape of the jaw bone resembled that of an ape. The only human characteristic of this jaw was the wear on the two molars, which were ground down flat, as is frequently true of hominids who eat tough or abrasive foods, such as seeds. In other words the creature had the jaw of an ape and the skull of Homo sapiens. The primitive stone tools found with these remains suggested a remote age for Piltdown Man, perhaps the Early Pleistocene or even the Late Pliocene. (In 1912 experts thought the Pliocene lasted from 1 million to 600 000 years ago. Scientists now date it to between 5 million and 1.7 million years ago.) This date was also supported by some animal bones found with Piltdown Man. To most scientists of the time, Piltdown Man fulfilled a prediction made by the pioneering evolutionist Charles Darwin, who had believed that humans and the apes could be connected genetically through a still undiscovered creature. Most significantly, it was half-human in precisely the feature that was then accepted as the most important difference between humans and the apes - the brain. At this time there was little fossil evidence to contradict the idea that the brain was among the first of the human features to evolve. As time went on, however, Homo erectus fossils were found in Java and China, while in South Africa the australopithecines were being discovered. All these fossils had human-like jaws and teeth and relatively small brains in contrast to Piltdown Man's large cranium and apelike jaw. The large brain simply did not fit with the rest of the fossil evidence. By 1948 scientists knew that bones buried in the earth gradually absorb fluorine. The older a bone, the more fluorine it contains. When the Piltdown materials were tested for fluorine, the skull and jaw fragments turned out to be much younger than the Early Pleistocene animal bones with which the skull had been found. Scientists were now very suspicious. In 1953 all the Piltdown material was tested for its authenticity. Not only was the recent age of the jaw and skull confirmed, but the jaw proved to be that of a modern orangutan, with the teeth filed down in a quite obvious manner to imitate wear on human teeth. But the forger had not stopped there. A bone tool found with the remains had been made in recent times with a steel knife, which leaves different marks than does a stone flake or axe. The tools, as well as the animal bones, had been taken from different archaeological sites. Once the forgery was exposed by modem scientific analysis the mystery was no longer where Piltdown Man came in human evolution but who was responsible for the hoax, and why? Although Dawson, the discoverer of most of the Piltdown material, is frequently singled out as the person responsible for this practical joke, there is no definite proof and the question is far from settled. 4. The Piltdown skull seemed distinctly human because it had I. large brain II. thick bones III. brow ridges A. I only B. II only C. III only D. I and III only E. I, II and III 5. The scientists of the time made which of the following mistakes A. believed that fossil discoveries would reveal much about human origins B. had preconceived ideas about what features an early hominid should have C. followed the ideas of Darwin in the face of counterevidence D. incorrectly judged the size of the brain E. failed to examine other fossil evidence available at the time 6. The animal bones found buried with the Piltdown Man were all of the following except A. shown to be genuinely Pleistocene B. more recent than first thought C. unconnected with the human remains D. deliberately planted at the site E. not originally from the Piltdown site 7. It can be inferred that it took so long to expose the forgery because A. the forger was exceptionally clever making it difficult to detect the alterations B. reliable techniques for dating rocks did not exist until recently C. the bones were not subjected to close scrutiny until considerable contradictory evidence accumulated D. the scientists had no reason to doubt the credibility of the team who made the discovery E. similar fossils from other archeological sites had proved to be genuine "You laugh at me because I am different, but I laugh at you because you are all the same." | | | | | The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to satanica For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
is in love with his new Apple Macbook :)
Addicted PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 767 Thanks: 1,236
Thanked 3,451 Times in 411 Posts
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pune ---> IIM Kozhikode Age: 25 | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
29-10-2007, 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenspan harshad ... welcome back
You did not miss too much except for my spamming really.
That reminds me of this http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-an...tml#post877260 ([28 Oct 2007] IMS SimCAT6)
On a serious note, you can probably share your email address or phone no. to UDT guys here (google doc), if that won't be a nuisance. We can bug you regularly and keep reminding you where you truly belong. (Applause please  ) | Have already done that............. prembhai has my contact info...... although its another thing that he regularly forgets it / deletes it
Cheers,
Harshad | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to harshadk For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
is drrrunk
Hardcore PaGaL
Status: Offline Posts: 296 Thanks: 272
Thanked 602 Times in 144 Posts
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sin City | Re: PG Underdogs Team (UDT) '07 -
30-10-2007, 12:01 PM
the answers to the RC posted yesterday.. 
Cheers,
------------- 1. Correct Answer: A Explanation: All the paradoxes in this section of the extract are resolved in the sentence, “These wonders are the work of law.” But the law is such that “each loses no part of his liberty but what might be hurtful to that of another”, making A the best answer. 2. Correct Answer: B Explanation: The author uses words such as sublime, and celestial which indicate his tendency to glorify the institution of law, making praise or extolling possible choices. He clearly refers to the law as a human institution. 3. Correct Answer: E Explanation: In “except” questions, find the four true statements first. A, B, C and D are true. Answer E is not true (and therefore the correct answer) because the author clearly states in sentence two that it is difficult to recognize the general will and to distinguish it from the personal. He states that only the “most sublime virtue” can make this distinction, and hence the word all in answer E is sufficient to identify the answer as wrong. 4. Correct Answer: A Explanation: The answer is in paragraph 2. Prominent brow ridges are mentioned as distinctly ape-like. The author states that although the hominid had thick bones, it had a large and rounded braincase. In other words, thick bones are not expected in a human skeleton. 5. Correct Answer: B Explanation: The fact that the findings supported a “prediction” and that too in “precisely the feature that was then accepted as the most important difference between humans and the apes” indicated that the scientists had preconceived ideas. 6. Correct Answer: B Explanation: The animal bones were the only part of the findings that were of Pleistocene origin. They were thought to be old from the first, and hence, were not more recent than first thought. 7. Correct Answer: C Explanation: The fact that the forgery was quite apparent once the evidence was examined carefully suggests that it could have been detected earlier if anyone had looked. It was only reexamined when it was found after many years that, “The large brain simply did not fit with the rest of the fossil evidence.” "You laugh at me because I am different, but I laugh at you because you are all the same." | | | | | |