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Thanks for your advice guys... I wasn't planning on leaving at least til Sep anyway... whats bothering me is that I have a good opportunity to actually do some real management right now....before going into BSchool... which as I am sure you'll agree would be terrific...

At the same time, I neither want to settle for a second (or lower) rate B-School nor (at least at this poiint) have the patience to wait for CAT 2006 (Horrors)...

had I not gotten promoted, I had planned to quit in SEP... bt leaving an actual managerial job is damn hard... the best outcome is obviously to not quit my job and still get thru the place I want... (still get to work for a year more from now)....

but thats also the hardest thing to achieve...

Think I should go for it? or play it safe (for cracking CAT purposes) and quit in SEP? Thats the delimma...
Hey...

Good that you are doing managerial work now. Just a question- with promotion come responsibilities,but then,doesn't give you an opportunity to delegate work

I became a Team Lead in December and though that meant a lot of baby-sitting, it also gave me the chance to take less work and satkofy early n prepare for PI's n stuff additionally, more time in off to surf the net and look up for info

dunno whether it will be the same for you.....but give it a thought.

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hi all not a member of ur community my self abhishek will write CAT in 05 n hope for the first n last time n dont need to jion this repeater forum.
   
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"Official CAT repeaters"... how to evaluate options? Quit and commit... or keep working, getting good exp., and try to make time for studies (WHEN!?)

Questions! Questions!
I am a bit late to suggest this but then I had to tell you this, at least.

it really a noble idea of keeping up with the job and 'cracking the CAT'...it gives an immense pleasure to senses too!! But, think again, is that the reality?

If the person has his first year at job, i'd advise be in the job n try, if he is spending one more year at job n writing CAT, i'd say...try keeping the job.

but, if u r giving it a try after having in the job, say, for more than 3 years...don't take RISK!! Time is running out...Belling CAT with a Job is an extremely tough task. Also, there will be two probs.

1. You might have other commitments with the passing age
2. B'school may turn u down, as u grow older

For example, till this Feb, I was working in a company and looking after almost 2 big states , namely Guj n Raj. It was mktg n I hardy could find any time for study. Before I realised (last year is in the case) that I need more time than I have, it was too late. Finally I had to quit the job n now m sitting back at home n preparing.

So, best idea is to figure out ur strengths n weakness (rightly said by Rajesh) and then find out how much hourly time u need per day (considering all Losses ) and how much time do u have and then THINK RATIONALLY.

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but, if u r giving it a try after having in the job, say, for more than 3 years...don't take RISK!! Time is running out...Belling CAT with a Job is an extremely tough task. Also, there will be two probs.

1. You might have other commitments with the passing age
2. B'school may turn u down, as u grow older

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Hey Euphoria,

Wats this that the bskool may turn u down with age
Well for me, I have 2.5 yrs of exp.
What do u think are the reason for this "turn down" ?
   
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07-06-2005, 11:14 AM

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Hey...

Good that you are doing managerial work now. Just a question- with promotion come responsibilities,but then,doesn't give you an opportunity to delegate work

dunno whether it will be the same for you.....but give it a thought.

atb n rgds
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Ron: I see your point but I can't agree with you on this. See, I am working in order to learn stuff... thats my only aim right now at work. In any event, I am not a TL now, just a more senior member of the team. So in effect, I'll have more responsibilities and more accountability... basically, no one will be baby-sitting me anymore and I'll have to do some low level baby-sitting for absolute newbies!

EuPhOrIa: Yes, I agree its the hardest thing to manage work and studies...
but the way I see it... IIM A don't make great managers... they just pick them from the 1.5 lak people who apply. (incidently, I don't think they always make the right selections but thats besides the point here) So, if my ultimate aim is to be a good manager rather than just getting into a good B-Skool then I have to manage this as well.

rajsher: Good, I hear the TIME sectonal tests are good... will be receiving IMS material around August i think and more later.. we'll swap... where you working btw?

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Theres a definate movement towards people with work Ex in B-School selections. When I had first thought of CAT, the counselor had sought to allay my fears by saying that no B-School picks up more than 50 percent people with work ex. That figure has been rising steadily, rate of increase differing from Inst to Inst... IIM C I think has the largest ratio.

I don't think people should worry about being too old for B-school admissions... in fact IIM A has a guy who has 22 years of WORK EX (And that too with the IPS)... thats more experience than I have in LIFE!

Plus abroad, as we all know work ex is actually a requirement.

Working helps, no doubt about it...
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Theres a definate movement towards people with work Ex in B-School selections. When I had first thought of CAT, the counselor had sought to allay my fears by saying that no B-School picks up more than 50 percent people with work ex. That figure has been rising steadily, rate of increase differing from Inst to Inst... IIM C I think has the largest ratio.
Aint' it IIM K? I heard there is hardly few students who joined as 'fresher'...!!! IIM K is known to stand different and they have chosed to be different in this regard. Last year actually they tried this and placement was gud and so they decided to go ahead with the same in even a bigger way!!

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I don't think people should worry about being too old for B-school admissions... in fact IIM A has a guy who has 22 years of WORK EX (And that too with the IPS)... thats more experience than I have in LIFE!
well well well

He is the IPS from Chennai and has managed to get an admission in IIM A thrice...I have met the person and he has really made an exception! There are 2 more of that kind. But, it sums up to 3 out of 256 in the batch of 2004-06.

If you consider B'school like Symbiosis, Narsee Monjee...they prefer to draw a young crowd. But, there are also colleges like IIFT where avg age is 26 approx. and experience matters a lot. So, till 25 or 26 its okie...but then manier times, they turn you down saying we won't be able to place you any better.

At Narsee Monjee, this was the conversation with the interviewer.

"where do u work"
"Carborundum Universal Ltd."
"how much do you make"
"its 4 lacs p.a."
"how much do you get in hand per month"
"sir, its approximately 27000"
"gentleman, I am afraid, we won't be able to place you any better...go and join the better B'school...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Also, insider info sayz, they don't prefer >26 range...its catching up n % of expierenced ppl are going up in the B'school...but its still a long way before we see it happening the Western way.


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07-06-2005, 03:40 PM

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Aint' it IIM K? I heard there is hardly few students who joined as 'fresher'...!!! IIM K is known to stand different and they have chosed to be different in this regard. Last year actually they tried this and placement was gud and so they decided to go ahead with the same in even a bigger way!!



well well well

He is the IPS from Chennai and has managed to get an admission in IIM A thrice...I have met the person and he has really made an exception! There are 2 more of that kind. But, it sums up to 3 out of 256 in the batch of 2004-06.

If you consider B'school like Symbiosis, Narsee Monjee...they prefer to draw a young crowd. But, there are also colleges like IIFT where avg age is 26 approx. and experience matters a lot. So, till 25 or 26 its okie...but then manier times, they turn you down saying we won't be able to place you any better.

At Narsee Monjee, this was the conversation with the interviewer.

"where do u work"
"Carborundum Universal Ltd."
"how much do you make"
"its 4 lacs p.a."
"how much do you get in hand per month"
"sir, its approximately 27000"
"gentleman, I am afraid, we won't be able to place you any better...go and join the better B'school...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Also, insider info sayz, they don't prefer >26 range...its catching up n % of expierenced ppl are going up in the B'school...but its still a long way before we see it happening the Western way.
Was that an actual interview you/someone else went for? maybe they were just checking for the reaction. I know a couple of guys in Narsee Monji, who are getting more than that... not the batch toppers either.. no work ex.

Yes, i doubt that the IPS guy was taken becaus of his work ex... 22 years means that he'll retire in 10-15 years max... guess he has a very good scope in PSUs (not to say he isn't smart... just looking at it objectively)

About IIM K... dude, all i know os that tehy took one guy I know and I used to feel sorry for him in College... he has lousy acads, no personality, can barely speak, and acts like a prick... my respect for IIM K has bottomed out... maybe he was an exception but whoever took him in had no plan for selecting people... don't know how they evaluate ppl.
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