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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 26-06-2007, 09:05 PM

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Here's the approach for 3rd question. Spl thanks to Raj aka CAT2007 and Prashant bhai

The point here is whenever the minute hand and hour hand exchange their positions, cumulatively they cover 360 degrees between them. Give this some thought.

E.g. If the hour hand is pointing at 5 and the minute hand is pointing at 8, and when they exchange positions i.e. hour hand points ar 8 (moved from 5 to and minute hand points at 5(moved from 8 to 5) they have completed a total of 360 degrees.

In our problem the times concerned are 4-5 and 7-8. Thus the minute hand has to cover another two rounds of 360 degrees each.... Thus in all between them, they cover a total of 1080 degrees. The realtive speed at which they cover this distance is 6(speed of minute hand in degrees/minute) + 0.5 speed of hour hand in degrees/minute) = 6.5

Thus the total time interval = 1080 / 6.5 minutes... On translating to hours come out to 2 hours 46 min 23 seconds......

Also, the time interval in these questions would always be of the form 360n/6.5 minutes. You just need to find out the value of n.

A doubt you may have

why have u taken the relative speed as 6.5 and not 5.5 ... aren't they
movin in the same dirn

Its because they have to cover the distance(1080 degrees) together, some of which would be covered by the minute hand and the other by the hour hand... Its not the case where the minute hand is trying to catch up with the hour hand, which typically we do in race problems et al
hey...thanx for the soln...but..i hv a doubt.... how can it be exactly 1080 degrees...there may b little variation rite ? So, the answer will still be an approximate one... pls clarify if i am wrong...

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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 26-06-2007, 09:31 PM

1) We can reduce it to 7^4 .. So it will be 49^2 ie. 2401..
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2) Ans : 29 ..m doubtful bout this 1..pls clarify..

3) Ans : 7
Coz.. any no. ending in 1 and 5 will hv their higher powers ending in 1 n 5 respectively

if u consider the cube of 3...its 27...so the no will end with 7...


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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 27-06-2007, 11:21 AM

hii all..

im new to this thread..

wanted to know if anyone has the 3 TIME AIMCAT mocks tests with solutions..
would like to collect them from any station on d western line..
missed out on the happenings, prep, n al.. coz of very busy work schedule in office..


hoping that some angel would oblige soon..

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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 29-06-2007, 04:29 PM

hii

fnds i have uploaded last few years papers of CAT on this group... along with some study material....

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catking/files/

hope its helpful for u ppl...
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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 29-06-2007, 07:00 PM

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hey...thanx for the soln...but..i hv a doubt.... how can it be exactly 1080 degrees...there may b little variation rite ? So, the answer will still be an approximate one... pls clarify if i am wrong...

Chao !
@HPK,

Apologies for a late reply. But the answer to your query is it will be exactly 1080 degrees. Basically the two hands cover the entire circumference thrice in between them. Try to visulaise it on a watch. You would understand if the two hands interchange their positions they actually cover 360n degrees
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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 29-06-2007, 07:06 PM

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1) We can reduce it to 7^4 .. So it will be 49^2 ie. 2401..
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2) Ans : 29 ..m doubtful bout this 1..pls clarify..

3) Ans : 7
Coz.. any no. ending in 1 and 5 will hv their higher powers ending in 1 n 5 respectively

if u consider the cube of 3...its 27...so the no will end with 7...
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Here are the answers

37^4 = (30+7)^4...now we use binomial theorem to find the tens place...since all the number till 4c2*30^2*7^2 will have two zeros in the end we'll consider only 4c3*30*7^3 + 7^4 to find the tens digit...

to make the calculation easier we'll consider only th last two digits in all calc...

4c3*30*7^3 = 4*30*343 = 120*343 = 12*343*10= ends with 60 (since 3*2=6)

7^4 = 343*7 = ends with 01

therefore 60+01=61....therefore tens digit is 6...

Which is the smallest two dogit number which will never be a perfect square in any base?
1) 29 2) 32 3) 41 4)62

The best way would be to convert the given number to base 10 and check if it is a perfect squuare or not. But that would involve a lot of trial and error stuff, but still I think it would not take a lot of time.
In this process of base conversion, the units digit of the number remains intact in the bases under consideration( ofcourse except the cases in which a digit doesn’t exist in a particular base e.g 9 doesn’t exist in base . So if subtract the unit digit from a perfect sqaure then the remainder should be an integral multiple of the tens digit of the number in the base under consideration.
e.g. Consider option a) 29
Lets consider a perfect square say 225. When we subtract 9 from it, the remainder that we get is 116. Now if this remainder is an integral multiple of the tens digit (which in this case is 2), then the number is a perfect square in that base (i.e 10
225 = 2*108 + 9.
Similarly find out if others can fit in such expansions or not.
25 = 4*6 + 1. (option c can be a square)
If we consider option b) 32, if we subtract 2 from any square say 64, then the remainder is not an integral multiple of 3. This would hold true for any square(not just 64). Thus 32 cannot be a square in any base. And obviously, 62 cannot be a square either.

3. Answer is 7.

4 2) P(x) is a polynomial defined for all real values of x. P2 (x) = P(P(x)), P3 (x) = P(P2 (x)) so on and so forth.The equation P5 (x) + P(x) = 34x + 44. Then find the value of P(37) - P(5).
a) 32 b) 64 c) 128 d) 256

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P5 (x) + P(x) = 34x + 44
let P(x)=ax+b ... 'ax+b' since {P5 (x) + P(x)} is in the same format then P2(x) = P(P(x)) = a(ax+b)+b =a^2x+(ab+b) we observe that for P2(x) power of x is 2...follow on similar lines P5(x) will have power of 5 i.e. a^5 rest of the terms are constant...therefore in P5 (x) n P(x) the terms having x will be a^5 n a respectively therefore a^5x+ax=34x => a^5+a=34 => a^5+a=32+2 => a=2

therefore P(x)=2x+b...now start solving
P2(x) = P(P(x)) = 2(2x+b)+b = 4x+3b
P3(x) = P(P2(x)) = 2(4x+3b)+b = 8x+7b
P4(x) = P(P4(x)) = 2(8x+7b)+b = 16x+15b
P5(x) = P(P4(x)) = 2(16x+15b)+b = 32x+31b

therefore P5 (x) + P(x)= {32x+31b} + 2x+b = 34x + 44 => 32b=44 => b=11/8

therefore P(x)= 2x+(11/...now sub the values of x given in the question

P(37)-P(5)= {2(37)+(11/} - {2(5)+(11/} = 74-10 = 64...ans
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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 29-06-2007, 07:08 PM

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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 29-06-2007, 07:09 PM

Posting the next set of questions

The divisors d1, d2,d3…… of a positive integer n are given in increasing order. It is also given that n divided n’ where n’ = d5 + d6 + d7. What is the value of n?

a) 126 b) 56 c) 42 d) 28

Three one-digit prime numbers(all distinct) are chosen and all the 3 digit numbers that can be formed without repetition are listed down. The difference between the largest and the smallest of such numbers is 495. The sum of the primes is greater than 13. What is the product of these numbers?

a) 14 b) 42 c) 70 d) 105
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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 07-07-2007, 07:30 PM

Hi Friends,

I am living in Mumbai. I m also preparing for CAT 07.


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Re: CAT Study Group - Mumbai - 09-07-2007, 11:02 AM

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I am living in Mumbai. I m also preparing for CAT 07.

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hope u have gone through the earlier posts to know that the junta(well most of us) have moved to emails because of the problems mentioned in those posts...so it u wat to join in u can PM me ur email address...


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