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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 05:44 PM
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i know mate what DI is..and that is what i am saying..they may remove DI (as in 'DI') completely and bring in more DS
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What,if amit,if they withdraw DI and influence DS altogehter?.What i can say is, "Truth is strange than Fiction"....So just hang on and wait for the D-day..
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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 05:45 PM
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I think its goona be easier paper this time. Reason
1. they have increased the time meaning they want to put less pressure.
2. just like Jee which has reduced the difficulty level of qns drastically so as to make it less demanding for students CAT might do the same way.
3. "Please note that the cut off for short listing SC/ST/PWD candidates for group discussion and
personal interview would not be less than 17% score in each of the three sections of CAT 2006 and no less than
25% score in aggregate. For other categories, it would be no less than 25% in each of the three sections and no less
than 33% in aggregate. The actual cut-offs used for short-listing, however, may be higher than the above mentioned
percentage scores and would depend upon the performance of candidates in CAT-2006."
yaar 33% in cat-05 means 50 nos meaning ~ 99.5 %ile (750 students) and above that they want balanced scores also.score of 12.5 in quant and DI could fetch you ~95%ile+ this way they won't be able to select more than 400-450 for GD/PI.
Also if they increase the level of difficulty further how can they expect students to score 33% in aggregate.
4. Now to ease the pressure due to uncertainity involved in selection they are now more and more reveling their selection criteria. First about negative marking than cutoffs.
5. Also if you talk about brains then guys who are repeating CAT (like me  ) have better preparation and chance of cracking a tougher question ( more exposure to different sort of question over a longer period of preparation time). That's why Jee lowered its difficulty level to nullify the effect of repeaters and coaching classes which used to prepare students for these tougher questions.
also chill guys whether its hard or easy they have to fill their same no of seats in any case.getting low scores won't make IIMs to decrease their seats or having more score won't make them to have more seats 
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It is good that you mentioned this stuff given in the CAT brochure, as stated individually by IIM Ahmedabad. There is one thing I have highlighted above as can be seen - I hope its very clear...
As a loophole, or as a hint, IIMA as left a clue for all of us - CAT 2006, at least according to the brochure sticks to THREE sections, even though it is of 2 and a half hours. I am really surprised as to how no one seemed to notice the same. So relax guys, the stuff will be all the same - DI< Quant and Verbal. We just gotto stick to our regular preparation and have belief in ourselves.
I hope the IIMs are just enough to stick to what they have stated in the brochure...
Please pass on this info to all the coachin classes, just in case no one has noticed it as yet...
All the best for CAT 2006 to all...
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14-07-2006, 05:48 PM
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What i can say is, "Truth is strange than Fiction"....So just hang on and wait for the D-day..
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me too believes the same but so much speculation going around, i thought of adding another perspective..thats it. ATB to all
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14-07-2006, 05:54 PM
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If this is the case then i am afraid to say that this will not be a good management paper.
What i personally think is that its the decision making, on the spot thinking, strategy which are traits of a good manager. By giving ample amount of time for few difficult Qs - will not test the above criteria. There will be no pressure on the person who will be taking the test. Manager is a smart person and not a total brainy person. (this doesn't mean managers is totally fool  )
You all must have witnessed that college toppers who rote like anything (with exceptions) are not the best in the industry.
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Hey pal,dont be tense,what will Time say?,they are already wrong as their mock paper proved,but,we should not ignore Experience of Time Bosses,just take it and prepair according to their suggestion.However,learning never worth worthless,it`s always count.
These all are illusions,it`s come always when something going to be good.
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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 06:01 PM
1. they have increased the time meaning they want to put less pressure.
2. just like Jee which has reduced the difficulty level of qns drastically so as to make it less demanding for students CAT might do the same way.
3. "Please note that the cut off for short listing SC/ST/PWD candidates for group discussion and
personal interview would not be less than 17% score in each of the three sections of CAT 2006 and no less than
25% score in aggregate. For other categories, it would be no less than 25% in each of the three sections and no less
than 33% in aggregate. The actual cut-offs used for short-listing, however, may be higher than the above mentioned
percentage scores and would depend upon the performance of candidates in CAT-2006."
.................................Hey Warrior amazing analysis..................full points to you mannnnnn......................very logical.........n simple analysis.......................gud mannn keep up the gud work...............and gud luck for Cat 06
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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 06:04 PM
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No , last year too the brochure had 180 qns...........So its no indicator......
The IIMA criteria of 33% ie min of 50 in CAT is a new one..further headaches..........
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If you insist we can bend space and rewrite ther 2005 bulletin again but still it would have less than 100 questions
Hey when I mean 100 or less Question I mean the Sample Questions and not OMS.....Ignorance is deeply Regretted...OOPs
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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 06:12 PM
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If this is the case then i am afraid to say that this will not be a good management paper.
What i personally think is that its the decision making, on the spot thinking, strategy which are traits of a good manager. By giving ample amount of time for few difficult Qs - will not test the above criteria. There will be no pressure on the person who will be taking the test. Manager is a smart person and not a total brainy person. (this doesn't mean managers is totally fool )
You all must have witnessed that college toppers who rote like anything (with exceptions) are not the best in the industry.
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Funny...I see a NUMBER of managers around me in my company and not too many people fit that norm
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14-07-2006, 06:22 PM
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If this is the case then i am afraid to say that this will not be a good management paper.
What i personally think is that its the decision making, on the spot thinking, strategy which are traits of a good manager. By giving ample amount of time for few difficult Qs - will not test the above criteria. There will be no pressure on the person who will be taking the test. Manager is a smart person and not a total brainy person. (this doesn't mean managers is totally fool  )
You all must have witnessed that college toppers who rote like anything (with exceptions) are not the best in the industry.
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Lemme Blow some holes into this line of thinking
Seriously Reading through all 90 questions isn't an easy task on an average 97+ (40 marks)wallah folks read arnd 60 Questions last year.In 150 Miunutes take 30 more Questions thats 90 Question or almost 100% of last years paper therefore more Management Decision Making would be there.
Imagine if there are more than 120 Qs?Just to qoute NMAT it has 150 minutes and has GK too even then people choose and do questions despite an easy set of Questions.
Also the XAT was a question paper where even 3 hours wouldn't have helped a lot...CAT,XAT,IIFT,FMS~AT,aren't Management Aptitude Tests they are just shortlisting Criterias....as they can't go on Interviewing 200,000 Folks....
No offences meant...
Give the Change a chance......
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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 06:35 PM
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hey people,
i just heard that RC section might also be removed and it will be clear by Sunday. Somebody told me this came in ET?? is it true??
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if you have told me quant to be removed some would have believed but RC.Managers should be expert in communication and verbal skills. removing this means we are conducting Jee-2
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Re: CAT 2006 Notification -
14-07-2006, 06:35 PM
Cheers Guys..half an hour more for the same paper which is always full of surprise!
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