[98tillidie]

yeah i know it amounts to blasphemy.....i mean comeon.....a thread titled ' to hell with MBA' on PG !!!

but i am ready to take the blame......since i was never a believer in this sacred entity called MBA ......

plz dont get me wrong ppal.....i m not ranting bcoz i failed to get calls.....(i have a few in my kitty and will hopefully convert one of them!) .....i m not desecrating the sanctity of MBA bcoz of my personal reasons.....the reasons are very generic.....probably as generic as the ans to the question - ' y mba' !!!

ahem.....the big question - mr 98tillidie.....y the hell do u want an MBA degree?

the hypocritical ans - sir....from my very childhood i was good at organizing events......i was the school captain.....i organised my college festival....got sponsorships......and when i started to work i realised i m a good team player.....and that i loved to take up challenges.....i am excellent at the task of convincing ppal.....i love my company......but then at a stage i realised that i need something extra.....maybe a formal training in management......those financial skillsets.......that formal knowledge abt the business processes.....only an mba course can give me such an immense knowledge in a short span of two years.......hence MBA sir.......hence MBA sir......

ok now the real ans - sir, to be honest......in my childhood....i had heard of neither engineering nor management......i was just worried abt taking wickets in the gully cricket match......then my parents introduced me to the concept of engineering......i tried my best.....and 'became' an engineer.......and i killed that cricketer.......in my final yr of engg i sat for all the companies untill one of them offered me a placement......so u c sir....even there i had no choice.......as i started to work i realised that i m a pathetic team player......that i cant tolerate the artifice of the ppal around....i found ppal who had sacrificed their dreams and accepted mediocrity as a way of life....i wanted to get out of it.....then i came across ppal preparing for MBA.....they told me its the only way out......and here i m sir....struggling to get rid of the monotony of job......and yes, money is a prime motivator here, for me.....and for every other candidate......at our age, its very natural !

after appearing in the intvs......my theory abt mba stands vindicated.......its abt deception......its more abt the way u speak than the way u think.....its more abt the way u fool others than the way u convince ppal........its more abt profits than abt ethics......its more abt drama and less abt action.....to sum it up - its just abt money!!!( i wonder how many applications will an mba insti get if it declares on its website - ' dear students, we have world class infrastructure, excellent faculty(all of them PHD from Harward), a very strong alumni network......but we dont offer placements....we just believe in imparting knowledge......thats our motto' )

in my opinion, an MBA degree just changes ur desktop to a laptop........teaches u how to make attractive presentations......helps u discover newer commands in excel......makes ur language deceptively mellifluous........makes u an insomniac who is ready to 'analyse' watever crap is given to him.....transforms a human being into a robot.......

in retrospect, the mba entrance exams put so much of pressure on u ......u slog like hell for CAT 200(x), only to realise that a slight miscalcualtion has ripped ur chances apart......and then u are all set for CAT 200(x+1)....what else can u do......u got no choice dude.....
CAT is unfair....but then so is life........we cant help it !

neways......i can keep writing volumes abt this topic........just felt like starting a thread where we can discuss the futility of MBA.......and i m very much aware that i might be enlightened by a few ppal abt the positive aspects of MBA too (positives other than the placements plz )......

plz dont get me wrong ppal........even i m aspiring to become yet another engineer_manager@pg.com .....lekin kabhi kabhi mere dil mein ye khayaal aata hai......"Y THE HELL MBA ?!!! "

now let me start counting the no of bouquets and brickbats i receive for starting this blasphemous thread........

[pranav10]

Originally Posted by 98tillidie

ok now the real ans - sir, to be honest......in my childhood....i had heard of neither engineering nor management......i was just worried abt taking wickets in the gully cricket match......then my parents introduced me to the concept of engineering......i tried my best.....and 'became' an engineer.......and i killed that cricketer.......in my final yr of engg i sat for all the companies untill one of them offered me a placement......so u c sir....even there i had no choice.......as i started to work i realised that i m a pathetic team player......that i cant tolerate the artifice of the ppal around....i found ppal who had sacrificed their dreams and accepted mediocrity as a way of life....i wanted to get out of it.....then i came across ppal preparing for MBA.....they told me its the only way out......and here i m sir....struggling to get rid of the monotony of job......and yes, money is a prime motivator here, for me.....and for every other candidate......at our age, its very natural !

now let me start counting the no of bouquets and brickbats i receive for starting this blasphemous thread........

98tilludide

well well, finally some hard core truth and innermost feelings of MBA aspirants of PG.
Whenyou told me aboout starting this thread on SB I thought you were not serious. BUt now that you have started it and people are replying (phukat ones like me) I am sure u will get crazy responses.
From my side however you get a bouquet cause I agree with your thought process and there is no choice for a godd student who doesnt have his father's business or some rich FIL (father in law duh!! )

So LET THE ARGUEMENTS (i mean err discussion) BEGIN>>
and MAY THE BEST MAN WIN

[pravzmad]

I am not gonna offer either a bouquet or a brickbat. I can relate to what you have said. To sum it up, I can say, "Even if you win the rat-race, you are still a rat". And the fact is, every one of us wants to be that rat. Like it or not.

But, shouldn't this be in 'Chit-Chat' section of 'Lounge'. May be there, you can find more ppl contributing to what you have mentioned.

Mods, plz note.

[Mmmmbopp]

Hi,
Now this is something that is absolutely right for most people. And at the FORE interview I even said this !!
He asked "Mr. ***** , How do u rate a B School ?? "
My answer was......" Sir , first I look at the placements !!" .
As soon as I said that he was like "IS THIS AN EMPLOYEMENT EXCHANGE?? " My heart was telling me to concur but then my mind said that the stakes are high. So I checked myself and said that "Sir , These are my prorities and thats the way I think. Faculty n Infra are important but then most people look for placements.Even if U ask this qns to every aspirant , He/She would say Infra n faculty etc above the placements but then that would be just to please u !! (And there went my chance to get into FORE !!).He took it rather well and told me that my THINKING PROCESS was rather straight and blunt !! But He appreciated it.
So my take on it is "MBA , for most is a way out of the normal grind and a shorty cutty way to make good money" ("for most" being the operative word here).
Good yaar u started this thread.cos it will bring out the truths of actual reasons for going for an MBA.
Keep the discussion healthy , people

[sanjaykath_84]

money money money is tat wat MBa is all abt . Man 98tillidie hats off to u 4 trhe courage 2 put ur thoughts ahead

[nakul05]

Originally Posted by 98tillidie

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ahem.....the big question - mr 98tillidie.....y the hell do u want an MBA degree?
ok now the real ans - sir, to be honest......in my childhood....i had heard of neither engineering nor management......i was just worried abt taking wickets in the gully cricket match......then my parents introduced me to the concept of engineering......i tried my best.....and 'became' an engineer.......and i killed that cricketer.......in my final yr of engg i sat for all the companies untill one of them offered me a placement......so u c sir....even there i had no choice.......as i started to work i realised that i m a pathetic team player......that i cant tolerate the artifice of the ppal around....i found ppal who had sacrificed their dreams and accepted mediocrity as a way of life....i wanted to get out of it.....then i came across ppal preparing for MBA.....they told me its the only way out......and here i m sir....struggling to get rid of the monotony of job......and yes, money is a prime motivator here, for me.....and for every other candidate......at our age, its very natural !
.....we cant help it !
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Must say, u took a very myopic view to the whole MBA process. Maybe u r not ready for it.
Some other things that u carry out of an MBA insti are nework, networking skills, brand, exposure to lot many more things in just 2 yrs than u wld have otherwise had an opportunity.
About ur argument of schools not offering placements, well, thats the trend in foriegn schools, still they flourish.

And if u say, its all about money, then who cares. U get to work in a larger role, and get a bigger cheque, thats fair enuf

[teenagedirtbag]

Interesting thread....

I must say what you have written is true..most ppl do MBA just for the sake of gettin higher pay pacage...and i don't think there is anything wrong in it either.

I just want to share my personal experience here.I actually joined MBA just to learn something new.Me actually one of those lucky guy with a Rich Dad and a Huge Business empire to fall back upon.To financial security was the last thing on my mind when i filled up the colleges.

Infact i even left colleges like XLRI only because i wanted to experience IIT's way of life.And i must say though i am happy with the choice i made,still i am not satisfied by the way the whole MBA course is designed.

I am in constant touch with my friends at all six IIMs and i get the same feeling from them also.MBA has become more of a formality rather than a learning experience that i wanted it to be.I am studying just for the sake of passing and getting the hell outa here in the two year time.

And sometimes i really wonder,did i made a right choice of career by going for MBA. Money???? I could and already was making more than the highest salary of IIM's. Better Profiles???? I seriously doubt this theory...what is a better or worse profile any wayz...I think if you enjoy a work then it should be called a better profile for you despite of the money you are making. Learning????? Yeah....whatever

[bucephalus]

@98tillidie..i second your thoughts dude

Not sure what to do with life..........go for em bee aye....safe and foolproof

[BUGS BUNNY]

Hey 98tillidie
It is a weird coincidence but even i started thinking along the same lines bout a month back as to y the hell do i wanna do an MBA
Y did i slog my ass off and surpsrisingly the only ans i cud think up was for money, pride tht i am an MBA from so and so insti. I know that's pathetic but its the truth and i am sure there are many other's like me. But the point where i differ from u is that I am not too sure if i wud join even if i convert a call this year and yes i have a few. Of course my parents think i have gone bonkers but jus for once i feel like doing something i wanna do solely based on my decision and without givng a damn bout the world.

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Bugs

[gabbar]

sometimes i have this feeling that the ppl who get the highest salaries are actually overqualified(as in profile wise) for being an MBA student.

besides this discussion would be much more relevant after the declaration of results of the IIMs.

what we dont realize is that in a bid to get into the IIMs we are wasting over precious time preparing for a stupid exam like CAT. mugging up the formulaes, learnign vedic maths , goin thru the wordlist . There are many ppl who are taking the CAT for the nth time ( n > 1 ) . then those practice tests which take a whole lot of time to analyse.

then the GD/PI prep which sometimes feels like the miss universe pagent. ppl askin silly doubts like "what if i dont have any hobbies?" WHAT?!?!??!?! just look at what you are saying?!?!? you dont have any hobbies? then you are a really sad person who works works and just works! you only do what you are supposed to do and the same thing will happen after and MBA. an mba wont change the way you think about yourself!

I have decided if i dont make it this time into the IIMs , then hell with MBA . i will start my own business. Its better to take my chance out there in the open , rather than sitting here and preparing for this ultra competitive exam like CAT again!