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No. of CAT aspirants... - 26-08-2005, 12:03 PM

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hi folks,

Here is a formula to calculate ur real percentile with the help of aimcat percemtile.

Assumptions:

1.total no. of cat aspirants this yr - 1.7 lakh.
I think the number of CAT takers would a bit less than that due to new condition of submitting ur degree certi OR proof of ur being in final year which would eliminate few students who take CAT even while being in Pre-Final year !!!

But guys !! B happy....out of those thr do happen to b coupla guys who get good %ile...so they will be eliminated now ...and a BIT of less competition..

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26-08-2005, 12:28 PM

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But guys !! B happy....out of those thr do happen to b coupla guys who get good %ile...so they will be eliminated now ...and a BIT of less competition..

Cheers !!!
I believe those undergrads scoring high percentiles were actually good for us .. coz they never appear for GD PI and thus we would get more leeway during the GD / PI phase....but now that wont be possible.


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06-10-2005, 09:01 PM

I don't agree.

CAT is no child's play, and all that matters is those two hours- you either make or break it in those 7200 seconds!

[QUOTE=terminator]hi folks,


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06-10-2005, 09:52 PM

I would like to differ from the calculations made in the first post. The percentile you get in any reputed mock/aim/sim CAT is a pretty good indicator of what you'll end up getting in the actual CAT. Of course, one might be tempted to think that since the percentage of serious test takers decrease in the actual CAT, one's percentile might go up. But a percentile is an indicator of the percentage of people who are above you (subtract your percentile from 100 to get it). Since the top 2-3 percentiles are fighting for the top class seats, you should be more concerned about the number of people above you than the number of people below. The latter number might go on increasing as much as you like, but as long as the number of people ahead of you remains almost the same (which it does, in percentage terms, because the "serious" test takers take the mocks), you are not making any progress, however high your percentile may be.

To give real life examples, all, I repeat ALL my friends (and believe me, there's a fair number of them!!) got actual CAT percentiles hovering somewhere around their mock CAT scores. I was a TIME and IMS test series taker and used to score above 99 consistently. And my actual CAT percentile was 98.35 (an anomaly you might say). Your actual CAT percentile can go below your consistent mock percentile in case you screw up your paper, but other than that, there's not much reason why it should go down.

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Extrapolation!!! - 06-10-2005, 10:31 PM

I think the number of serious CAT takers is 50K-60K, the figure suggested by terminator (34K) is too less.
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06-10-2005, 10:52 PM

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I think the number of serious CAT takers is 50K-60K, the figure suggested by terminator (34K) is too less.
Should be more than that...

And my dear frenz we are missing one more point here... there are people who ae serious but have joined other test series, or none at all!


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06-10-2005, 10:57 PM

The actual rank in the AIMCAT is a better predictor...

Rank Under 500 -> Should make atleast 99% in the Real CAT
500 - 1000 -> 98- 99.0
Above 1000 then the population gets real diverse... You could just make it over 98 or even 99 on a lucky day... But mostly 1000-2000 means 96-98...

Also understand the swing in actual marks is way too much in an exam as stupid as this one and you can expect a +5 to -5 depending on your general composure that day and pure luck... Well if you get nervous forget it...

So that swing in rank can never be calculated...
Ofcourse there are further complications like cutoffs etc... and some are going to get called and some are not going to get called for N other reasons...

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07-10-2005, 12:09 AM

agreed that thr r n number of limitations . in effect its as difficult as predicting somebdy's future . What i meant was jus a meaningful correlation btween aimcat percentiles and those of cat .

the general points are :
1. cat percentile is ecpected to be much better in comparison 2 ur aimcat perc unless u give less than ur consistent performance.(euphemism for screwing up )

2.Most of the serious catters wud be in one or the other reputed inst. (time , cl ,pt ,ims)in fact this observation is very particular and not general.

3. Also no. of serious aspirants is lower than wats commonly percieved.cmon yaar do u think that 55-60 % of junta scoring jus 20 in aimcat can be called serious.I mean if u r really thinkin in terms of iims and cat then it wont be called serious.

4. many guys say it all depend on ur final day . i wud like to say that yes for a particular person , he may have a gr8 day and incrz his perc frm 95 to say 98 and vice versa. but this isnt goin 2 effect a major change overall coz thr 'll be people for both the cases.so in effect the net change will not be much.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME HEATED ARGUEMENTS.


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ab kya karen..... - 07-10-2005, 02:34 AM

hi folks

nice formula...that means 70%ile scorer will get 94%ile.

jokes aside
can any one ll suggest what to do in next 40 days to maximise %ile..
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agree with this! - 07-10-2005, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DesiGuru
The actual rank in the AIMCAT is a better predictor...

Rank Under 500 -> Should make atleast 99% in the Real CAT
500 - 1000 -> 98- 99.0
Above 1000 then the population gets real diverse... You could just make it over 98 or even 99 on a lucky day... But mostly 1000-2000 means 96-98...

Also understand the swing in actual marks is way too much in an exam as stupid as this one and you can expect a +5 to -5 depending on your general composure that day and pure luck... Well if you get nervous forget it...

So that swing in rank can never be calculated...
Ofcourse there are further complications like cutoffs etc... and some are going to get called and some are not going to get called for N other reasons...

K
This is a much better way of looking at mcat %tiles.
the initialposter has made quite a few wrong assumptions
1. The number of selection for TIME/IMS is largely inflated cos many people attend both, some just attend the free mcats ..but are still counted as studetns, some are previous year students..they are also counted (IMS does this) ... so assumingk tht if not a gr8 idea.
2. The percentiles dont work linearly.for the top 500-1000 odd ranks...it might be ok..but below tht..say less thn 95%tiles in the mcats..can end up being much lower thn u wht is suggested by terminators method..cos this region wud have maximum concentration of people.
Desiguru's thumb rule is IMO much more accurate...top 500 is defintiely 99%tile...sure mulitple IIM calls(4-5-6)...500-1000..(1-2-3 atleast.)..the next 500 might need some luck..
and also better to look at it as..whtz the highest rank u hv got..it gives a fair indicator of wht u can achieve if evrythign goes right..lowest rank...wud be ur worst case scenario..so plan accordingly.
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