[indrachem]

Hi Puys,
I joined PG a few days ago and I started a new thread, but the moderators suggested me to post it here: So it goes one more time..........

All I can see here is that most enginneers are going for an MBA. There is a considerable population from commerce and other backgrounds. I could not see anybody from the science background. Can you please tell me: How much is the chance of getting into one of the IIMs from the science background? I will be appearing in CAT 2009 this year. I have done M.Sc. in Chemistry from IIT Kanpur in 2007. Worked as a Junior Research Fellow for 1 year (2007-2008 ), joined Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh as a PhD student last year and left the program in May 2009. Right now I have joined CL for CAT prep. and not doing any job. Unfortunately there is not much opportunity for doing a respectable job in India for science students without a PhD degree and some Post-doctoral experience. India has got almost no commercial research industry except a few outsourcing companies like ChemBiotech, Syngenta etc. and Astra-Zeneca in Bangalore. I wish to do MBA mainly because I want to establish my own company doing professional quality first hand research work in Bio-organic Chemistry. What should be my career path? Is going into an IIM would be helpful? Most business persons are not actually even familiar with the research industry and have no idea how to establish a company in which PhD and Post-docs from premier universities of the world like MIT, Princeton, UCSF work towards changing the history of the mankind. e.g. Celera Genomics, which have done much of the work behind the Human Genome Project. But no such company in India exists since Management majors have never appreciated research as an industry due to their lack of knowledge in research itself. Reddy's lab is a good effort but this is only a very small venture in terms of what can actually be done. What I want to do in life is to bring great minds under one roof, manage them to perform like different people playing different musical instruments in a concert. Nobody has done that in India. Lack of industry interest in research has hindered many progress. I will give one example: some years ago, my previous mentor Prof. Sabyasachi Sarkar at IIT Kanpur invented a method to prepare Carbon Nanotubes from soots obtained by burning mustard oil. The invention got some coverage in major newspapers in India but he could not apply for a patent due to initial lack of funds originating from the lack of understanding of industry people of the potential of research. After some time the Bayer company of Germany acquired the patent of this particular method...!!! This is the cheapest method of manufacturing Carbon nanotubes till date.(He managed to get an American patent sometimes back of a procedure to prepare water-soluble carbon nanotubes). If you can give me any idea of what kind of B-school shall I consider to join, it would be really great...!!!! And after all, shall my "not doing any job right now" status is going to affect much?!

-- Indrajit

[coolraj420]

Originally Posted by indrachem

Hi Puys,
I joined PG a few days ago and I started a new thread, but the moderators suggested me to post it here: So it goes one more time..........

All I can see here is that most enginneers are going for an MBA. There is a considerable population from commerce and other backgrounds. I could not see anybody from the science background. Can you please tell me: How much is the chance of getting into one of the IIMs from the science background? I will be appearing in CAT 2009 this year. I have done M.Sc. in Chemistry from IIT Kanpur in 2007. Worked as a Junior Research Fellow for 1 year (2007-2008 ), joined Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh as a PhD student last year and left the program in May 2009. Right now I have joined CL for CAT prep. and not doing any job. Unfortunately there is not much opportunity for doing a respectable job in India for science students without a PhD degree and some Post-doctoral experience. India has got almost no commercial research industry except a few outsourcing companies like ChemBiotech, Syngenta etc. and Astra-Zeneca in Bangalore. I wish to do MBA mainly because I want to establish my own company doing professional quality first hand research work in Bio-organic Chemistry. What should be my career path? Is going into an IIM would be helpful? Most business persons are not actually even familiar with the research industry and have no idea how to establish a company in which PhD and Post-docs from premier universities of the world like MIT, Princeton, UCSF work towards changing the history of the mankind. e.g. Celera Genomics, which have done much of the work behind the Human Genome Project. But no such company in India exists since Management majors have never appreciated research as an industry due to their lack of knowledge in research itself. Reddy's lab is a good effort but this is only a very small venture in terms of what can actually be done. What I want to do in life is to bring great minds under one roof, manage them to perform like different people playing different musical instruments in a concert. Nobody has done that in India. Lack of industry interest in research has hindered many progress. I will give one example: some years ago, my previous mentor Prof. Sabyasachi Sarkar at IIT Kanpur invented a method to prepare Carbon Nanotubes from soots obtained by burning mustard oil. The invention got some coverage in major newspapers in India but he could not apply for a patent due to initial lack of funds originating from the lack of understanding of industry people of the potential of research. After some time the Bayer company of Germany acquired the patent of this particular method...!!! This is the cheapest method of manufacturing Carbon nanotubes till date.(He managed to get an American patent sometimes back of a procedure to prepare water-soluble carbon nanotubes). If you can give me any idea of what kind of B-school shall I consider to join, it would be really great...!!!! And after all, shall my "not doing any job right now" status is going to affect much?!

-- Indrajit

hey...i might not be a mba student but from what i read you have pretty much planned out future...its good for you....just prepare honestly for cat and score a good percentile.i am sure you would be able to impress the pi panel with your thoughts and your future plans....if you do well it doesnt matter if you are from a science or engineering background,you would surely get admission into a good b school
(By the way you have a really good profile ,it would surely help you during your final selections......)
tc

[Oxy-GEN]

Guys i have some queries.
I'm pursuing a Dual Degree in chem engg from IIT Delhi.
1.Am i eligible for CFA Level 1 December exam or not?
2.And if i am will i be able to get through considering that i have no knowledge of finance?
3.I have been doing some research on FRM as well.Do u think it would be a good addition to my profile alongwith a CFA Level 1?
A swift reply would be appreciated
Thanks

[Abhishek_fr_CAT]

Originally Posted by Oxy-GEN

Guys i have some queries.
I'm pursuing a Dual Degree in chem engg from IIT Delhi.
1.Am i eligible for CFA Level 1 December exam or not?
2.And if i am will i be able to get through considering that i have no knowledge of finance?
3.I have been doing some research on FRM as well.Do u think it would be a good addition to my profile alongwith a CFA Level 1?
A swift reply would be appreciated
Thanks

Hello oxy-gen,

Go through these threads

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/career...ns-on-cfa.html (Need some Opinions on CFA.)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/career...-garp-105.html (Financial Risk Manager [FRM] by GARP)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/career...s-garp-23.html (FRM 2009 Aspirants-GARP)

The people on these threads would be in a better position to give you sound replies.

Regards
AFC

[akaashp]

Hi Guys,

I'm a fresh engg. graduate (CSE) and have 2 job offers before me. One of them is an enterprise-level tech support profile and the other is a normal software engineer (developer) profile.

I'd like to clarify that the tech support profile is not the conventional BPO tech support, but enterprise-level tech support. Which basically demands much more specific and higher level expertise. It is placed very high in the technical support space.

The software engineer profile is the usual coding and development profile and involves development of software for use by the organisation itself.

I would like to know which of the 2 profiles would serve me better in B-school admissions and also help me more during my MBA. I've heard tech support isn't as well-appreciated as a development profile. Also, I wanted to know if the compensation offered by the companies is a criterion when B-schools are considering you for admission.

Hope you guys can help. Thanks

[try4it]

Originally Posted by akaashp

Hi Guys,

I'm a fresh engg. graduate (CSE) and have 2 job offers before me. One of them is an enterprise-level tech support profile and the other is a normal software engineer (developer) profile.

I'd like to clarify that the tech support profile is not the conventional BPO tech support, but enterprise-level tech support. Which basically demands much more specific and higher level expertise. It is placed very high in the technical support space.

The software engineer profile is the usual coding and development profile and involves development of software for use by the organisation itself.

I would like to know which of the 2 profiles would serve me better in B-school admissions and also help me more during my MBA. I've heard tech support isn't as well-appreciated as a development profile. Also, I wanted to know if the compensation offered by the companies is a criterion when B-schools are considering you for admission.

Hope you guys can help. Thanks

As per me the SE role is better than the tech support role. even if u r in a enterprise level support people will look at it from the same point of view. another thing is in a SE role u would learn a lot many things which ll not be there in the tech support role.
as far as the compensation is concerned at the time of gdpi they dont matter much. but definitely at the time of ur final placements they will. as of now just concentrate on ur CAT as u have ample time in hand. score well and everything will fall in place.
All the best....

[Amodh]

Hey guys , i am a pharma graduate of passout 2009 batch. I have openings from KPO industry for job but it has a 12 months training period. I have 1 queries

1. Will this training period in KPO count as work ex ?
2. If i plan to not join this KPO and instead prepare for CEt , what could be other certificate courses i could do that would help me convince the PI guys i did something ?
2.a Could this certificate course be a foregin language course? will that help?
2.b Any other suggestions for any other course ?

[rohitsaxena00]

hey ppl

im a 2008 batch BE passout and its been one year since iv been waiting for my joining ..

my joining is supposed to be after november 2009..i have wasted 1.5 years waiting for my joining !! what do i do ?? im worried as to how will MBA colleges look at it as ??

also guys suggest me what can i do until my joining comes ?? im not liking sitting at home...tell me what are my options ??? NGO or whatever ??

[dinesh43]

hi everyone,
i am engg pass out 2009 batch
branch ece.
i m preparing for CAT09. i don't hve any job offers in my hand. and i m not interested in goin in the IT industry. what are the other option for me.
what is the concept of the NGO???
please throw some light on this propect.
do working in NGO will count as work experience??
where can i contact the NGOs??

[ashwinmnaik]

Hi
I had the following queries regarding carrer in company secretary.

1)What is the carrer prospective if a student wishes to do an MBA and a Company secretary.How beneficial is it?.
2)What kind of jobs will he get?.
3)Should he do an MBA first or CS?
4)Which other course along with CS would be most beneficial?


thank you