[rpradeephere]

Originally Posted by amit.ahlawat

Hi puys!
Though i m a fresher, still i believe that owing to my natural inclination towards HRD, i have indeed developed the basic understanding of the role of HR in life in general and industry in particular.

No wonder

It actually makes me think. Is it true that most of us would have worked in some firm post engineering and got so frustrated seeing the way HR behave and then developed a "I don't want to get into HR" feeling ?

At least, I definitely felt so when working in my first company.

Side question: Does HR courses have more freshers usually than BM courses? {Factual data please. Not "I am sure that is the case" answer.}

[jshah29]

i agree wid Rohit.... I havent felt HR in my 3 years at current job... all those flaff is only in the books... i would go on the extent of saying that the HR doesnt even sit in the same office as we do and operates from an office which is some 15 km away from this place... in 3 years i havent had opportunity of even meeting 1 person in face.... all the HR does is "operations".. givin out salary slips, asking for declarations, crediting extra expenses etc...

acc to me, my boss is my HR rep... any prob i sort out wid him rather than goin to HR (in fact, when did I even think of going).. he sanctions my leaves an he tracks my performance... i would not say he is a great ppl manager but managing decent job as compared to others here at my level... and he is not even MBA... so i dnt think HR is needed in first place to manage HR!

mine is an offshore investment banking unit... where we have no client facing roles but are expected to work as others in front end would... our hours are not as long as those guys but still longer than what normal offices would ask... so here it wld be all the more reason to have those HR policies... but still we are here left alone...

Now that I have put on my first hand experience i would also give you other side of story... Sorry rohit, but I would really want to give example of a frnd who used to work for similar kind of setup for a rival company.. the job function and nature remains same - only company differs... he was very very happy with the HR there.. they had work-life balance committee which used to organise outings on monthly basis.. you could meet HR whenever you had problems with seniors or colleagues (on anonymous basis)... the interactions were so frequent that he had actually made a good friend with the HR female when he left...

so it all depends upon the company to company and function to function and department to department and employee to employee ... One employee can view "HR" as unnecessary word in the organisation or it could be actually viewed as employee centric welfare.... it all depends...

[sumitrocks]

Jshah, fair points! I guess many of us get disillusioned with HR, because our line HR folks are unavailable or busy or never have answers. I used to be one such person, long ago.

In the two organizations that I have worked with, I have been really happy with the functioning of the corporate HR folks. Though, I must admit, the line HR has left me dissatisfied on more than a couple of occasions.

Yes, on a day-to-day basis, it will be your manager who will deal with issues like compensation, leave, medical reimbursements et al, but if you look at the global picture, all these are dealt with, by HR. Your manager can at best be a channel to link you with your HR.

Now, here's another question that I was asked:

Question: Don't you think you might regret taking up HR, six months down the line, when you feel it is not rewarding enough as a career?

Answer: Well, I might regret buying a car after six months, if I feel I could've picked a better model. I might regret marrying a girl now, coz after six months I might be able to pick a better 'model.

Not at all. All of us are 20+ years of age. We need to have at least a faint idea of what we want to do with our respective lives. If you're taking up HR, just because it is the only available choice, I'd say you're making a mistake. I feel you need to decide what your priority is. If you have even an iota of doubt about joining HR, either get rid of the doubt, or get rid of the idea of joining HR.

Harsh words, maybe, but that's what my take is.

:rockon:

[ambush]

great work sumit and all others!!! keep it coming!!! by the way,i m getting into IMI this year to do my PGDM-HR... has 2 years of work-ex from wipro .. and a b-tech from NIT calicut... All the best 2 you guys!!
i m looking forward to gettin back to college aftr a long time!!
cheers again.. :new_bat_angel:

[hameed]

Awesome initiative Sumit [ u shd have shown me this earlier ]

Heres sharing how i made the decision...


I always knew i was a management guy, even while doing my BE...so that was settled.

The specialization was something I wasnt very sure about, not untill a year ago.

I realized that IT, Finance arent my cup of tea. Having worked in an IT company i had no liking for it at all, also having spend 6 months on ICFAI's MS in finance course and having wasted 60k on it, i was sure finance aint for me.

Operations is something i had no idea about and marketing never really excited me.

So i decided to read up on HR and operations. The more i read up the more i liked HR and the more i moved away from operations.

So my goal was settled, it would have to be one of the 2

1) HR
2) General Management or Strategy

The clincher was reading 'Maverick' by Ricardo Semler, I was all of a sudden fascinated by the potential that lay in the HR field.

Finally i was sure of taking HR if i get either of MDI-HR, or XLRI-PMIR if not i'd have gone ahead with general management or strategy.

I am really excited at having made it into the best HR course in the Asia region and probably the oldest management program in India.

:rockon:
hameed

[sumitrocks]

Pradeep, to (partially) answer your question, we had a poll on the XLRI community on orkut. Sharing the results:

Total votes - 113
Freshers - 31 (27%)
< 6 months - 4 (3%)
6-12 months - 18 (15%)
12-24 months - 33 (29%)
24+ months - 27 (23%)

Please note that these figures are for BM and PMIR combined, so they may or may not be indicative of the general trend in PMIR. Still, I feel they would have some substance to them

You can sample some of the profiles that folks get, by clicking here.

P.S. I'll try getting more info about the profiles offered to people tomorrow.

[amit.ahlawat]

Originally Posted by estranged_gnrs

tch...good words and I so wish it was in real.I would really like to know few companies which actually "believe" in this and implement this, and yes, first hand INDIAN experiences only please.NO posts like "I have a friend in whose company this....".
May be we will learn few things from there..But may be out of the scope of this thread.

Cheers,
Rohit

This little but valuable HR experience of mine comes from my 7-month long industrial training at HONDA 2-WHEELERS INDIA and 2-month internship at CAREER LAUNCHER. Let me make it clear that my views on HR are my interpretation of the functioning of HR the way I have experienced it till now. I picked the positive points and hence talked about the perfectionist HR manager rather than the real one.

Amit
PGPM, TAPMI 2008-10

[freakinbubu]

Originally Posted by PSL

hey...
thats another myth sumit needs to take care of ...

and even if HR folks were to be paid less than investment bankers, would you not get into HR?? inspite of your inclination towards it..

As Frank would have asked, "Are you only in it for the money?"


cheers..

no man...definitely not......I am not definitely in it just for the money........my inclinations for HR began the day I wanted to do an MBA just because I like that field and I am pretty sure I can excel a lot in it....u know its like my true calling............in fact I may not go for anything else if I get thru HR in a very good college........because I am not that good with numbers since birth..........I definitely can see myself prospering in that field some years down the line.....happy and contended but a bit more money anyways can be a definite plus isnt it??????


P:S: I know some of u might consider my post pointless with little value addition but then FREAK likes to ramble

[freakinbubu]

Originally Posted by sumitrocks

Jshah, fair points! I guess many of us get disillusioned with HR, because our line HR folks are unavailable or busy or never have answers. I used to be one such person, long ago.

In the two organizations that I have worked with, I have been really happy with the functioning of the corporate HR folks. Though, I must admit, the line HR has left me dissatisfied on more than a couple of occasions.

Yes, on a day-to-day basis, it will be your manager who will deal with issues like compensation, leave, medical reimbursements et al, but if you look at the global picture, all these are dealt with, by HR. Your manager can at best be a channel to link you with your HR.

Now, here's another question that I was asked:

Question: Don't you think you might regret taking up HR, six months down the line, when you feel it is not rewarding enough as a career?

Answer: Well, I might regret buying a car after six months, if I feel I could've picked a better model. I might regret marrying a girl now, coz after six months I might be able to pick a better 'model.

Not at all. All of us are 20+ years of age. We need to have at least a faint idea of what we want to do with our respective lives. If you're taking up HR, just because it is the only available choice, I'd say you're making a mistake. I feel you need to decide what your priority is. If you have even an iota of doubt about joining HR, either get rid of the doubt, or get rid of the idea of joining HR.

Harsh words, maybe, but that's what my take is.

P.S. Trying to find out the ratio of freshers to experienced folks. I'll edit this post and put the ratio here. :rockon:

Exactly Sumit......totally agree with u.......I have felt from the start that HR is a passion......a hobby........but then as is the case with most Indian students passions tend to get checked due to various pressures.....and u know what......that is precisely what I am afraid of.......I just want to have the conviction that I can choose HR over other courses when I join next year in a B-school........but then again, what I feel is that there is a marked difference between a fin or a marketing degree and an HR degree from lower rung B schools..........I mean for the good b-schools, there can be no perceivable difference but once u consider the B schools that are a bit below standard, considering an HR degree before a marketing and Fin degree in them can put u in a problem........so if at all we want to choose HR over marketing or fin, then the college has to be definitely above par than other colleges........hope that I could get my point across

[freakinbubu]

then again I have one more question directed towards the people.......Rohit Bhai had given the link to a blog in his post probably in the first or second page......

there is a small line in it that says HR PEOPLE ARE SOME OF THE MOST HATED PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS.......even I have heard things in the similar lines a lot.............I dont know if there is even a little bit of truth in it but I just wanted to clarify if thats actually the case.........:detective::detective: