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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 08:29 AM

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What could be a possible course which would give football-crazy people like me a chance to step into Mourinho or Sir Alex's shoes contain that this course doesn't have:
managing resources, managing people, the international football industry, football and finance, football and media. All this is needed by any manager today. This can very well be a course for a manager.
Totally!Agar ye link ek saal pehle mila hota, to shaayad main enrolled hota, for this program. Even now, I do plan to go for it, someday. Calling batchmates.....


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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 06:06 PM

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What could be a possible course which would give football-crazy people like me a chance to step into Mourinho or Sir Alex's shoes contain that this course doesn't have:
managing resources, managing people, the international football industry, football and finance, football and media. All this is needed by any manager today. This can very well be a course for a manager.
The modules you mention are purely theoretical and related jobs are office based. Managers like Sir and Wenger do need to know little bits about these things which can be gained by experience, but to be a coach/manager of a professional football club in England, for example, you'll need to know the technical aspects of the game - in other words you'll have to be certified by the English FA or UEFA (or FIFA if you want to coach the Indian team ) as a certified coach. These certifications include:

Football Coach Level 1: Coaching childrens teams, basic excercise regimes and first aid, training modules, nutrition basics etc...

Football Coach Level 2: Advanced stages of the above + coaching teenagers, organising and development activites of football teams..

Football Coach Level 3: Advanced stages of all of the above + Advanced individual skills and techniques, Injuries, Tactical systems, Player psychology, Coaching full grown men etc..

Google the exact classes for these coaching levels but as far as i remember (I had a related thing in my masters course) it was something like the above..

P.S. Don't you remember earlier this year Grant had to take classroom lessons because he did not have a UEFA Pro license or something like that...he had to take classes and exams to be able to continue coaching!


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found a link with details of FA coaching levels:
BBC SPORT | Football | Get Involved | Want to be a football coach?

this site also has useful info for English FA:
TheFA.com - FA Learning




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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 06:45 PM

One of my friends had told me he had applied to this course at Liverpool but could not go due to Visa issues . he also said it is more of an administrative job at a football club and not a manager's (as earlier pointed out - you need UEFA and FIFA Pro Coaching badges for that profile) . I have heard the passouts get recruited with clubs like AC Milan , Liverpool et al .


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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 06:54 PM

Welcome to the Football Industry Group's Website

Found this link - FAQs on the MBA in Football (Liverpool University)


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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 07:05 PM

the above would indicate a one of a kind program which is not region specific.

in some of the earlier posts , someone had mentioned that this would be a la peter kanyon job , and he opined that it would not be a bad job at all

well , if you could see the money made by him in one week , you would , in all likelihood , rephrase your statement

the above degree would not , in any way, make you eligible for those coahing designations.

this degree would give indivduals the liability to manage all the 'inhouse' activities of clubs , right from boca juniors to viva kerala.

a fantastic proposition in sight. its too early to jump the gun , but this would a career-changing move to say the least .

just to be associated with something like this gives me the shivers. the 'money factor' would count for zilch. i would , in most lieklihood , try to get hold of this degree within the next 7 years.

although my priorities are very clear , to get hold of such a degree , i wouldn't mind studying in liverpool

ps - any idea whether gemma atkinson is a regular at football grounds?

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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 07:13 PM

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the above would indicate a one of a kind program which is not region specific.

in some of the earlier posts , someone had mentioned that this would be a la peter kanyon job , and he opined that it would not be a bad job at all

well , if you could see the money made by him in one week , you would , in all likelihood , rephrase your statement

the above degree would not , in any way, make you eligible for those coahing designations.

this degree would give indivduals the liability to manage all the 'inhouse' activities of clubs , right from boca juniors to viva kerala.

a fantastic proposition in sight. its too early to jump the gun , but this would a career-changing move to say the least .

just to be associated with something like this gives me the shivers. the 'money factor' would count for zilch. i would , in most lieklihood , try to get hold of this degree within the next 7 years.

although my priorities are very clear , to get hold of such a degree , i wouldn't mind studying in liverpool

ps - any idea whether gemma atkinson is a regular at football grounds?
buddy, ud be a hunted man in scouse..esp red parts of Liverpool...!!!

Also, managers dont need an MBA degree....look at southgate, keane himself...

Also, I cant imagine an Indian leading a football side..not even Indian dominated areas like Southhall, Leicester City and Birmingham...Michael Chopra is the closest someone has got...apart frm baichung's agony at Bury..!!!

But lets hope....You Never Walk Alone..!!!!

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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 07:31 PM

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buddy, ud be a hunted man in scouse..esp red parts of Liverpool...!!!

Also, managers dont need an MBA degree....look at southgate, keane himself...

Also, I cant imagine an Indian leading a football side..not even Indian dominated areas like Southhall, Leicester City and Birmingham...Michael Chopra is the closest someone has got...apart frm baichung's agony at Bury..!!!

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hi ,

thats what i said

the above degree would not , in any way, make you eligible for those coahing designations

yes, an indian leading an EPL team is a remote possibility , but who knows?

hell , 20 years down the line , i may well be the technical director of scunthorpe united

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united > kids > an mba degree in FM > wife , in that order!
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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 07:32 PM

you are right - it is a fantastic proposition indeed and a mouth watering one for me .

When one talks about passion and love for a job , this is the ideal job for football lovers like us i must say .

But I guess i will have to be pragmatic and work for a few years post my MBA , and then probably go and pursue a course like this in Liverpool . It would be a dream come true for me . Regarding the jobs , they do not promise us placement - this is what the site says :

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We cannot guarantee that all students completing the MBA will find employment in the industry, but the MBA has an excellent reputation among executives and managers in the game and our graduates have an excellent record of success, often utilising the contacts that they have been able to make while studying in Liverpool. MBA graduates are now working with FIFA Marketing, the Football Association, the Football League, the Football Association of Wales, the Chinese Football Association, and the Swiss Football Association, the Professional Footballers Association; several clubs in England (including Arsenal, Everton, Leeds United, Liverpool, Manchester City, as well as St Helens RLFC); clubs in Brazil, China, Germany, Italy, Sweden and Turkey; the Norwegian Ministry of Sport; media and marketing companies such as IMG, Octagon, UFA, Zone Marketing and The Financial Times; and Deloitte & Touche in Britain and Brazil. More information on this is available in the 'FAQ' section of this site.


Still all PG courses abroad do not have placements like here in India and it sounds good enough to me . Also they have mentioned the course is suitable for people already in a management role and with a keen interest in football ...

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the above would indicate a one of a kind program which is not region specific.

a fantastic proposition in sight. its too early to jump the gun , but this would a career-changing move to say the least .

just to be associated with something like this gives me the shivers. the 'money factor' would count for zilch. i would , in most lieklihood , try to get hold of this degree within the next 7 years.


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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 07:56 PM

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hi ,

thats what i said

the above degree would not , in any way, make you eligible for those coahing designations

yes, an indian leading an EPL team is a remote possibility , but who knows?

hell , 20 years down the line , i may well be the technical director of scunthorpe united

glory glory man utd.

united > kids > an mba degree in FM > wife , in that order!
Dream bigger man....maybe someday you n I wud be leading out Man U n Liverpool out at OT/Stanley Park....well, atleast the reserve sides...!!

Anvesh, yeah..an HR manager with an FM MBA shud be ideal...maybe shud have said that in TISS interview..lol..!!!


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Re: MBA in Football Management: University of Liverpool - 24-04-2008, 09:23 PM

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Dream bigger man....maybe someday you n I wud be leading out Man U n Liverpool out at OT/Stanley Park....well, atleast the reserve sides...!!

Anvesh, yeah..an HR manager with an FM MBA shud be ideal...maybe shud have said that in TISS interview..lol..!!!
Alagati, you'll have tough competition for the Liverpool job. Yours truly is here!!

Yes, an HR MBA with the FM course sounds good, and I hope, within the next 7 years, I complete both.


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