Job Prospects for a 3yr gap after School : hello is it possible.??

[coolindian914]

hi guys ,,
One of my friend has taken a drop of 3 years for iitjee after 12th . Now he is doing computer science and engineering from other Nationally reputed college .Is it possible for him to get a job in tcs , wipro , infosys , Microsoft ,IBM etc MNCs ?????

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[greatSCOTT]

no problem whatsoever

[rider.royal]

Well definitely this gap is going to hurt him but , in my view, only initially when applying for first job at reputed MNC but if he has knowledge then he will definitely get a nice start. Thereafter it is upto him.
Also as far as i know infosys conduct some test for freshers in final year of engineering (relevant engineering ofcourse and simple comp.sc. graduates) , so in this case it will depend on his performance at these tests.

No employer will want to loos a worthy candidate if he is just 2-3 year old then his counterparts.

and moreover what has happened has happened, s leave past behind and take what is coming more seriously..... amen

[coolindian914]

Originally Posted by rider.royal

Well definitely this gap is going to hurt him but , in my view, only initially when applying for first job at reputed MNC but if he has knowledge then he will definitely get a nice start. Thereafter it is upto him.
Also as far as i know infosys conduct some test for freshers in final year of engineering (relevant engineering ofcourse and simple comp.sc. graduates) , so in this case it will depend on his performance at these tests.

No employer will want to loos a worthy candidate if he is just 2-3 year old then his counterparts.

and moreover what has happened has happened, s leave past behind and take what is coming more seriously..... amen

thanks a lot for ur instant and fair reply ,, I hope that my frnd will now never look back

[dream_manager]

hi coolindian,

I think u r friend got inspired by some of the school / college drop outs like Mr.Lincoln...etc...


but dear no problem...
ask him to dame make the basics strong...
say it be C ..or C++ or ...the JAVA....
or anything...
ask him to choose either one or two LANGs and master it...
also apart frm that he must push himself upfront in the LOGICAL and ananlytical reasoning...
also the most important is the STRESS MANAGEMENT....
many firms hve started STRESS in this kind...
CARITOR ..and many IT firms put a STRESS interview also to test how carefuly he handles a situation amidst pressure that is a routine in many IT firms..

so these are just a drop of information to you...
u collect many such drops and make it rain on him so that he drench his thrist ....

keep the sprit goiing man.
regards,
DM

[harrypotter1234]

Originally Posted by coolindian914

hi guys ,,
One of my friend has taken a drop of 3 years for iitjee after 12th . Now he is doing computer science and engineering from other Nationally reputed college .Is it possible for him to get a job in tcs , wipro , infosys , Microsoft ,IBM etc MNCs ?????

Absolutely!
But the percentages in Xth and XIIth matter (esp in company's like Infy that conduct fresher campus interviews).

Moreover he should be able to justify his drop in the interview

[nautilus]

The gap would be a bit difficult to explain away.......but given that he is doing his grad. from a good college would offset it partially.

Also further down the line what counts is how you perform in your recent courses. Most recruiters would be more concerned with performance in the last couple of years than what happened after 12th.

[Psychodementia]

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If I were the employer I would not want to even interview your friend. I think anyone who wasted 3 precious years of his life (from 18-21) just to get into IIT is a fool. I would perceive him to be someone who attaches too much importance to brand names and who is *not* smart inspite of being in IIT (<-- all the more reason why the new rules make more sense).

But IT today does not think that way. They want people who can mindlessly churn out oodles of code or still better/worse - do everything else apart from coding. So I think your friend should not have a problem getting a job. Also being in IIT opens up other avenues like doing an MS from any of the US univs with full aid.

Arun

[coolindian914]

Originally Posted by Psychodementia

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If I were the employer I would not want to even interview your friend. I think anyone who wasted 3 precious years of his life (from 18-21) just to get into IIT is a fool. I would perceive him to be someone who attaches too much importance to brand names and who is *not* smart inspite of being in IIT (<-- all the more reason why the new rules make more sense).

But IT today does not think that way. They want people who can mindlessly churn out oodles of code or still better/worse - do everything else apart from coding. So I think your friend should not have a problem getting a job. Also being in IIT opens up other avenues like doing an MS from any of the US univs with full aid.

Arun

hello Mr Arun ,
thank you for ur reply !!!!
I would like to say something to help u understand the situation of my friend .
I think u never been in situation like some people get in and they have to do unwillingly something . I dont think that anybody will like to drop 3 years for
"iit" and if he does so it might be that some situation which cant be prevented.
Your reply was very irrational as it said that you would consider it a fool if somebody drops for brand names ,,,given u a choice if u are made to fail in same class for 2 years will u leave studies saying i am a fool and should not study anymore . Regarding my friend,s decision I am proud that he has taken such brave decision ,, inspite of all pressures he has to manage . I myself dont have a courage to handle the pressure of continuous failure what he did .His professor who was teaching him for iitjee in his first year of preparation passed away due to accident in between preparation time and his father is an iitian himself who was adamant on sending him to iit .So look situation are sometimes not under ur control and u have to do what time demands .

[Psychodementia]

Hi Cool,

Seems you didnot read my caveat carefully:

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Sorry if what I said did not suit your palate but this is purely my personal opinion.

I am presuming when your friend was under the duress of failiure he was not even a teenager. He was 20 !! That is a ripe time to take ownership for what you want to do in life. Death of my tuition teacher and my-dad-who-was-an-iitian-forced-me-to are not reasons you can cite at that age.

Let's be realistic. I am talking about running a company. I don't want a ninny pants who has a sore gripe about taking 3 years to get into IIT. If I were sitting on the other side of the table and had to give objective reasons for rejection, my comments would have read as below:

(a) Inability to take independent decisions clearly evinced by his impotence to stick to what *he* wants to do in life.

(b) Failure to realize a mistake and move on in life by wasting a precious period of his life where he could have learned many real-world/technical skills

(c) Inadequacy in maintaining relationship with parents clearly evident by the way he sucumbed to father's illogical demands

(d) Incompetence to clear an entrance exam in prescribed time limit (usually 1 year) thereby showing unfitness for the course itself.

(e) Powerlessness to take an entrance exam by himself and having to overdependent on tuition classes to do the same.

Having taken the hard stance, let me mellow down a bit

I really sympathize (cannot empathize though) with your friend and is indeed a difficult position to be in. But as I had mentioned in my previous post he needn't worry. At the end of the day if he is looking at a career in India then he can always mention either personal/family reasons for not having taken up college immediately after 12th. He can say he worked for a few years before college. Infact, in the US its a pretty much done thing. I mean no body would raise eyebrows if you said you wanted to take some time before you decide to study. Its pretty much like what anyone with workexp would say for an MBA.

Once again I did not intend to hurt you or your friend by saying whatever I said. Just remember that this is the internet. If you ask for an opinion you will get it. Its your choice then, to either accept it or reject it. Think about it.

Arun

Originally Posted by coolindian914

hello Mr Arun ,
thank you for ur reply !!!!
I would like to say something to help u understand the situation of my friend .
I think u never been in situation like some people get in and they have to do unwillingly something . I dont think that anybody will like to drop 3 years for
"iit" and if he does so it might be that some situation which cant be prevented.
Your reply was very irrational as it said that you would consider it a fool if somebody drops for brand names ,,,given u a choice if u are made to fail in same class for 2 years will u leave studies saying i am a fool and should not study anymore . Regarding my friend,s decision I am proud that he has taken such brave decision ,, inspite of all pressures he has to manage . I myself dont have a courage to handle the pressure of continuous failure what he did .His professor who was teaching him for iitjee in his first year of preparation passed away due to accident in between preparation time and his father is an iitian himself who was adamant on sending him to iit .So look situation are sometimes not under ur control and u have to do what time demands .