[ankit1207]

hi all,
well dis video is indeed schoking not bcoz women r using abusing langauge but bcoz one of d most premier b school students r using dis langauge n against d students of other premier b school n that also without whatsoever reason n wat is more schoking is dat this was preplanned.....
i mean how can a guy or a gurl can do dis irrespective of wheteher he or she is a b school student or not.......
we use to tell whole world dat our b school impart hell lod of behavioural n cultural managment in students but after seeing dis no one will be ready to believe dis......

[gabriel666]

Well I myself dont place IIMians on a high moral and intellectual pedestal, so this incident doesnt bother me as much as compared to someone who does see every IIMian as more than human.

What bothers me is the aggressive defense of the incident in the name of "tradition", "friendly banter" and whatever. Most IIMians seem to believe that criticizing this incident is an attack on their institute or an attack on the IIM way of life. I dont think that is the intention of most people who have criticized this incident. I certainly dont believe that this incident is representative of what happens on a regular day in IIM but there is no doubt that this sort of behavior is in poor taste. Such language isnt part of the friendly banters that I have and I am sure it is the same for most people (I am sure this is true for the girls in the video too). The language used was crass and disgusting and there isnt a defense for this sort of a behavior and none should be attempted.

Also please stop using the argument of this being a tradition as this makes the situation even more worse as this will certainly turn of many people who would have otherwise ignored this as a one off incident. IIMians really need to rethink the traditions that need to be continued if this sort of behavior is indeed part of the tradition of their institutes.

For the people who are going to counter with the brilliant argument of " I-am-sure-you-have-done -this-too-and-hence-you-are-a-hypocrite" all I have to say is that every time I have indulged in something like this I have been terribly disappointed in myself, just like I am disappointed (not as much, but I am) right now.


PS: - I couldnt be bothered to read most of the arguments on the thread, so if some of these points have already been made then.. well, just read through them again

[DPrit]

Originally Posted by anurag12singh

@DPrit

I think you are missing the point here. Nobody questions the intentions of sledgers. No body here means to say that they were actually talking about relatives of XL students. We all, or nearly all of us have been through some sort of college education. And nearly all colleges have these abuses and slang as part and parcel of their folklore. Its not some B School priviledged stuff, you know.

The point which is being made is - Wouldn't XL or IIMC or any XYZ college be better off without these so called traditions. If you feel that these 'traditions' as some of us here are putting it are more vital and necessary for the institutes than maintaining some limits of decency, at least in public, then I would understand that we have a difference in opinion about the role of management institutes and their take-aways.

Otherwise, I would understand that you acknowledge that there are some issues which should be and can be fixed but you would not like to bring them out in the open.

No one is claiming that it is Bschool special thing... and it was not also meant to be public.. .may be someone posted it in youtube but in general this act would have never happened in public anyway...so i m not sure exactly what i m missing.....

and if you yourself are admitting that all of us have gone thru this experiences during our college days then why didn't you raise this issue then..? why now.? what makes you believe that IIMs or XL has a higher reponsibility in terms of maintaining so called decoram than any engineering colleges..? do you even know the kind of slangs used in NDA and CDS colleges for defence services ..? you will be floored...still NDA pass-outs are considered to be the best of the class gentlemen....

and what is this takeaways from Bschool thing..? you still did not get it..? did u ..?

Good Bschool

Takeaways

1. Good education from excellent Profs (your slanging does not reflect low IQs, some of the most brilliant people I have seen around during my Bschool days were deeply into boozing, potting and slanging)

2. Excellent Stress Management (Sleep 4-5 hours and work rest of the hours, driven by deadlines for useful and useless assigments)

3. Friends for lifetime who will not only be your bros and sis and even life partners but also will help you when you are in a dire need for a job change

4. Strong Alumni who will vouch for your ability. All Bschools (national and international) will have that. Old Boys Network it is

5. An Immense boost to your confidence and unfortunately Ego, when you realize you have beaten so many others to grab a seat on your ability. Helps a long way in making a methodical approach to all problems of life since you have taken that project once (preparing and strategizing for CAT, XAT etc. ) and came out successful

6. Last but not least a good job which will make you and your parents proud in the party circuit and relatives world




Now the things that Bschool dont teach you ..


1. How to make Charity

2. Humility

3. How to be submissive ( I bet once you are through the B-School experience and for some quirky reasons you decide to enroll again in the same Bschool you wont go thru the same experience again bcos you will refuse to do it may be, given you have dislike for it)

[DPrit]

Originally Posted by ankit1207

hi all,
well dis video is indeed schoking not bcoz women r using abusing langauge but bcoz one of d most premier b school students r using dis langauge n against d students of other premier b school n that also without whatsoever reason n wat is more schoking is dat this was preplanned.....
i mean how can a guy or a gurl can do dis irrespective of wheteher he or she is a b school student or not.......
we use to tell whole world dat our b school impart hell lod of behavioural n cultural managment in students but after seeing dis no one will be ready to believe dis......

might be a little digression...but i have serious objections in your so called "Kewl" way of writing english.... so that's neither be a part of a proper education i must say... Boys can we have a list please..?

[ankit1207]

Originally Posted by DPrit

might be a little digression...but i have serious objections in your so called "Kewl" way of writing english.... so that's neither be a part of a proper education i must say... Boys can we have a list please..?

see you cant correlate the public behaviour with the wriring behaviour of an individual.....i mean yes you can have objection with my style of writing...but you cant ignore the fact that what has been shown in video is indeed creating not a good image of b school........

[anurag12singh]

I have to give it to you DPrit. You just can not see someone else's point of view. If you think roads of an institution isn't a public place and doing something on it isn't a public act, then good luck to you. You have serious gaps in your education. And I can see that your takeaways from an MBA are different from mine. And you have succeeded in fulfilling your objectives from the course specially no. 5 which you mentioned.

And if I myself said that I went through the same phase in Engg college, then 'I myself' am also saying that I regret it and it has not made me a better person in whatever way you define a better person. I don't think you need to be abusive to be aggressive and if you don't abuse you are meek and submissive. If that is the extent of the your deduction powers, well, good luck to you again.

By the way, our discussion is really going in a different direction so I would like to end it. Obviously you don't find anything wrong anywhere. And I do. And you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. And it appears to me that I can't get you to look at things in a different sort of way. So let's end this discussion with a good luck once again.

[DPrit]

Originally Posted by anurag12singh

I have to give it to you DPrit. You just can not see someone else's point of view. If you think roads of an institution isn't a public place and doing something on it isn't a public act, then good luck to you. You have serious gaps in your education. And I can see that your takeaways from an MBA are different from mine. And you have succeeded in fulfilling your objectives from the course specially no. 5 which you mentioned.

Yes I have serious gaps in my education ..thank you for letting me know.. btw i m currently having a stint at Harvard.. probably i didnt have to mention that to you either....

when I say public place i mean public place.. place filled with general public not some gully in the middle of the campus... you just dont know what you are talking about and making assumptions based on a youtube video..? I am just providing you some counter arguments... i don't see any reply to that.. other than being judgmental on people's education.... on one side ..it is ok to slang and everyone does that in college and on the other side you believe IIMs and XL is so wrong in doing what they have done... cummon give me break.. you are so contradictory in your own opinions... that its sad.. i mean u either denounce something completely or be a part of it....its the class of opportunistic gas bag moral hypocrites who can switch sides based on odds are the most dangerous kinds...

[anurag12singh]

Tut tut.. Name dropping never added any value to arguments. By the way, I replied to one of you counter arguments in my last post. Did you go beyond the first paragraph?

[DPrit]

Originally Posted by anurag12singh

Tut tut.. Name dropping never added any value to arguments. By the way, I replied to one of you counter arguments in my last post. Did you go beyond the first paragraph?

no more arguments.. i have enuf of it.. gotta rush to work.. you carry on...

[freestyle]

Originally Posted by DPrit

might be a little digression...but i have serious objections in your so called "Kewl" way of writing english.... so that's neither be a part of a proper education i must say... Boys can we have a list please..?

"Neither be a part of a proper education" "How to make charity"?

Lol. Preaching the nuances of the Queen's English, are we?