[DPrit]

Originally Posted by lehmanbrothershereicome

if attending b schools is all about living through such experiences I would rather pass off this phase....as far as I know there is much more to schools than traditions....

as far as I know not many professors are aware of such traditions and wherever they have become aware the administration has done something about it.....and the students label it as "killing of traditions"....why would I want such crass traditions in the first place? are b school grads such despos? arent there enough resources on the net available at your disposal?

and is b school just a sophisticated placement agency for you at the end of the day?

First let me know of one thing... Have you been through the experience or not? boss i m just stating the simple fact which every students who come to the Bschool will have.. first change you will have if you are really in a good bschool, is that you wont have time to put some many remarks in PG since you will be busy cracking exams and assignments... I am not trying to be super special.. this is a simple fact ...so ..i m not sure you got into Lehman Brothers or not and if yes than congrats...but u know what.. ? i personally attended many such events in the school ... and they are truelly a strong bonding experience .. and something to relish upon .. I am from XL and I know if someone choose to stay inside room and allowed to skip this.. .they are free to do so... no one has been forced .......most of the profs ar aware of this... do you think this kind of events goes un-noticed ..by the profs.. .when most of them stay inside the campus..? in the break neck competition and stressful enviroments of what grades you are getting, whether you are maintaing 6+ CQPI (since otherwise you won't be picked up for Day Zero Interviews), when just a difference of .5 marks makes a grade difference between A+ and B, when people apparently very strong mentally breaks down into tears if they don't get into the right kind of company or sit thru the first two days of placements with getting placed.. these events that you guys are pondering just act as a wild outlet to let them release the pressure cooker like stress out...someone can handle the stress maturedly without the need of these events .. however most of them can't ... i had been one of them... who can't and I don't see any reason why some of you won't be either...

[deepu]

Originally Posted by monsterkartik

Just to say that, no one is being taught to swear,

MK

when we say people are being taught(ofcourse not by profs but by seniors etc with some set agenda in mind) we have proof of that.

we don't cook up stuff just to win some petty argument.

Cheers,
Deepu.

[lehmanbrothershereicome]

Originally Posted by DPrit

First let me know of one thing... Have you been through the experience or not? boss i m just stating the simple fact which every students who come to the Bschool will have.. first change you will have if you are really in a good bschool, is that you wont have time to put some many remarks in PG since you will be busy cracking exams and assignments... I am not trying to be super special.. this is a simple fact ...so ..i m not sure you got into Lehman Brothers or not and if yes than congrats...but u know what.. ? i personally attended many such events in the school ... and they are truelly a strong bonding experience .. and something to relish upon .. I am from XL and I know if someone choose to stay inside room and allowed to skip this.. .they are free to do so... no one has been forced .......most of the profs ar aware of this... do you think this kind of events goes un-noticed ..by the profs.. .when most of them stay inside the campus..? in the break neck competition and stressful enviroments of what grades you are getting, whether you are maintaing 6+ CQPI (since otherwise you won't be picked up for Day Zero Interviews), when just a difference of .5 marks makes a grade difference between A+ and B, when people apparently very strong mentally breaks down into tears if they don't get into the right kind of company or sit thru the first two days of placements with getting placed.. these events that you guys are pondering just act as a wild outlet to let them release the pressure cooker like stress out...someone can handle the stress maturedly without the need of these events .. however most of them can't ... i had been one of them... who can't and I don't see any reason why some of you won't be either...

wow i did not know ppl needed talks of a sexual expletive laden nature to calm their nerves....so much maturity...and b school is a means to a goal not and end in itself so irrespective of ppl attending it or not makes no difference.....

the fact that we have students coming directly from engg colleges with no work ex might be a reason for such immaturity....hence schools overseas have seen some reason and added the work ex criteria which even schools here are slowly realising......

empires have been built by non MBA's and MBA's run then efficiently.....

[anupam will return]

Originally Posted by pagalguy

Right, so women want to be spoken about in sexual terms and that is absolutely fine with? How the might fall AWR. Such hypocrisy. Such cheapness.

I still don't understand the "cheapness" part you alluding at. If students at B schools speak stuff which they are perfectly fine with, and If the same tradition has been continuing over the years, what then is the issue? If IIMC-XLRI share a friendship that way and no one complains, what then is the issue?
If women at B schools don't care a damn about what is being discussed, what then is the issue?
Am sure you would be knowing that a B school is a place where an individual sees a lot of stuff for the first time. At the end of the day, all rests on him/her as to what he/she chooses and what he/she avoids.

[pagalguy]

Originally Posted by monsterkartik

Just to say that, no one is being taught to swear, the way u have put it it sounds like they have swearing sessions in their class rooms .

I have said this earlier also, by emphasising and using terms like teaching you are taking this to some other tangent. Please lets not do this, and lets keep the instis name out of it

Cheers

MK

Well, its actually quite like that The girls hostel actually has a person selected every year from PGP2s whose sole purpose is to coach women to abuse. Funny how you hit the sentiment bang on

[Derrida]

Originally Posted by DJK

That's right, let's brush this under the carpet, you know because this is wrong, and hence needs to be covered up. Brilliant suggestion. Corruption in the government is also internal stuff. Sexual harassment at the work place is also internal stuff. Ragging is also internal stuff. Let's all weave a bigger carpet, so culprits may be protected and the crime continues to perpetrate. I am shocked, by your response and hypocrisy. You not only endorse such crass behaviour but also want it to stay unreported, irrespective of how it may affect those who are affected by it.

Not everything that's need to be covered up is wrong. Sometimes things are irrelevant/inappropriate for others to know. Do you want examples?

Corruption, sexual harassment, ragging??? Err...don't throw words around just for the sake of it. Pure political bhashan full of global keywords :huh:

Hypocrisy ..Plumber was banned for using an expletive in a purely innocuous/cheesy manner, and here we are having a thread dedicated to a video full of expletives under the cosy shade of context. People ask for feedback/views and when receiving rather direct ones, hide for cover and accuse others of hypocrisy and what not.

Why can't we stop this thread, remove the vid and open a new thread to discuss all these deep routed vices in the Indian society/college/tapri etc?

[deepu]

Originally Posted by anupam will return

I still don't understand the "cheapness" part you alluding at. If students at B schools speak stuff which they are perfectly fine with, and If the same tradition has been continuing over the years, what then is the issue? If IIMC-XLRI share a friendship that way and no one complains, what then is the issue?
If women at B schools don't care a damn about what is being discussed, what then is the issue?
Am sure you would be knowing that a B school is a place where an individual sees a lot of stuff for the first time. At the end of the day, all rests on him/her as to what he/she chooses and what he/she avoids.

anupam, sry i don't want to demean you or anything but this is like asking the government :-

"whats wrong with prostitution? why is it illegal when both the parties are ok with that ?"

[DPrit]

Originally Posted by lehmanbrothershereicome

wow i did not know ppl needed talks of a sexual expletive laden nature to calm their nerves....so much maturity...and b school is a means to a goal not and end in itself so irrespective of ppl attending it or not makes no difference.....

the fact that we have students coming directly from engg colleges with no work ex might be a reason for such immaturity....hence schools overseas have seen some reason and added the work ex criteria which even schools here are slowly realising......

empires have been built by non MBA's and MBA's run then efficiently.....

If you are hell bent to do the arguments just by stretching it to a ridiculous level of high ground of morality i have nothing more to say.. bcos when you start acting like GOD no one can prove you wrong... I am much better acting like a mortal..bcos that's what I am ....

last thing ... if you spend 5-6 lakhs out of your own pocket ( i mean not dad's money, the money you take as a loan from bank and if you are from a typical middle class family having big dreams..) some of this hot air that you are having about this world is ideal .. will get released pretty soon... take down my words... and all the best for your endeavour to get into a Bschool since looks like you chose to run the empire efficiently...

[Derrida]

Originally Posted by deepu

anupam, sry i don't want to demean you or anything but this is like asking the government :-

"whats wrong with prostitution? why is it illegal when both the parties are ok with that ?"

And Deepu, guess what the Vid/thread at PG is doing? Paste a photo of the prostitute and her four kids on the front page of ToI along with a youtube link for one masked vid of hers with a client and then print a report that this prostitute needs a help from all of us.

[monsterkartik]

Originally Posted by deepu

anupam, sry i don't want to demean you or anything but this is like asking the government :-

"whats wrong with prostitution? why is it illegal when both the parties are ok with that ?"

Lets not exxagerate here, comparing swearing and prostitution.

Btw Prostitution is legalised in Bangkok. Though i dont want to get into mud slinging here

So, now u would say, smoking is not good, ban it from IIMs, drinking is not good ban it from IIMs, wat all do u want to ban from IIMs, can i have a list ??

Cheers

MK