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- Verbal is skewed towards "convent-educated" ppl. It just measures your grasp of english & reading speed, both which are IMHO not very important attributes.

-GK is important..but the test involves a high degree of luck..

So, Quant should be the only section. XL seems to have woken up to this only now.


If u went through prev XAT papers they were more or less skewed in one way or another like favouring ppl with strong vocab and excellent GK.

This year XAT was a very well prepared paper with the level of English considerably higher with even a lot of LR thrown in and no of qns in QA increased. But to weed out guys mercilessly who have 90 odd % in maths and an overall high %ile is robbery.
and seriously dude why do u think one has to be "convent educated" to score well in english??? I know a hell lot of ppl who have passed out of local "indigenious" schools and by sheer hard work have cracked every exam possible. it jus depends on the way u grasp things hasnt got any thing with ur education.
making QA the only section = BS
it will never happen simply bcoz no one other than engineers will get through.
If u went through prev XAT papers they were more or less skewed in one way or another like favouring ppl with strong vocab and excellent GK.

This year XAT was a very well prepared paper with the level of English considerably higher with even a lot of LR thrown in and no of qns in QA increased. But to weed out guys mercilessly who have 90 odd % in maths and an overall high %ile is robbery.
and seriously dude why do u think one has to be "convent educated" to score well in english??? I know a hell lot of ppl who have passed out of local "indigenious" schools and by sheer hard work have cracked every exam possible. it jus depends on the way u grasp things hasnt got any thing with ur education.
making QA the only section = BS
it will never happen simply bcoz no one other than engineers will get through.



Yaar me too an engineer....with 83 in QA think i am a kaala dhabba on enggs face

hey guys total failure this time . missed out on cat ( big 1 ) missed out on xl too. xim only savin grace . as for engineers bein gud in maths ,me an engg 2 but have always been the black sheep! got 83% in qa. overall 94.xx. Is xim worth it ??? Or should i work 1 year in tcs and try out the next time. i am a fresher u know:grab:

I guess every institute has its own criterias regarding what they consider as the most valuable for a future manager and I guess most Indian instis thinks its Math and more Math. XL used to be the one exception but I guess they've decided to join the herd as well. A couple of things I dont get though.

1. Is there any research to prove the correlation between a good quant performance and being a good manager??
2. Why do u have other sections if what you're gonna be lloking for finally is Quants?? Why have the GK section at all?? Ppl might think that a good performance in GK maybe a fluke but there r guys who have taken part in quizzes etc before and therefore can consider GK to be their strength.
3. How many of the guys who've done well in Quants r gonna end up using even an iota of it during their working life needs to be seen. But any manager, whether in mkting or fin has to communicate one time or the other.
4. Ppl may consider GK to be redundant but u dont build a good GK overnight, u do it via reading and researching throughout your life, again an attribute I hope most managers ought to possess.

Sorry for rambling on for so long guys.
Kunal





Hey,
I agree with wat u both have said....

But then ITS OVER guys...and watever we speak here they(XL) are not going to change nething and all those who read this will forget it ..so lets concentrate on the calls at hand 😃

A CALL IN HAND IS WORTH TWO OR THREE OR FOUR IN .......IN......

I DONT KNOW WERE...


Me not worried that I didnot get the call...already overcame that frustration...i am only worried that Luck has become a major contributing factor in calls, initial as well as final....not just in one but several places....
IIM's, SPJ, XL and list is endless....For how long will this luck factor come into play is my worry.
subrata_taurean Says
hey guys total failure this time . missed out on cat ( big 1 ) missed out on xl too. xim only savin grace . as for engineers bein gud in maths ,me an engg 2 but have always been the black sheep! got 83% in qa. overall 94.xx. Is xim worth it ??? Or should i work 1 year in tcs and try out the next time. i am a fresher u know:grab:




HEY U GOT IN WITH 83 INQA? I MEAN TO XIM?
AMAZING YAAR... Y DIDNT THEY CALL ME THEN?

ONE MORE REASON TO SULK...PHEW!!!!
Me not worried that I didnot get the call...already overcame that frustration...i am only worried that Luck has become a major contributing factor in calls, initial as well as final....not just in one but several places....
IIM's, SPJ, XL and list is endless....For how long will this luck factor come into play is my worry.



YA I TOO AM WORRIED ABT LUCK BEING THE MAJOR FACTOR...

SOME ONE QUOTED THAT QA HAD 75 QUESTIONS SO V SHUD HAVE GRASPED THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT...BUT WAT ABT VA HAVING 65 Q'S?

so a person like me for whom MATH is not actually his best strength..there is no hope for getting in to a good b-school?

guess only time will tell
It is really unfortunate to know that luck plays more important part than other criteria. I was just trying to see how many times people have mentioned that they just turned out to be lucky to get calls frm XL and in almost all pages and almost all threads where people with poor GK and VA scores have mentioned that they find themselves lucky to get the call. Don't know if this is the right trend. I agree luck is also important but shud it be this important that people who fared badly in 2 sections get calls and those fared good in 2 sections donot get the call. Also odd cases of luck is fine but having so many people feeling lucky makes me feel the most unluckiest person...or probably i was sleeping when god was distributing luck...same cud be the case of those who missed out.

Kabhi to meri bhi kismat jagegi....

Buddy
i say the other posts u hav made in ref to repliees to above post of urs but still one thing rankles in my mind..Without more BS let me get on to it..
Yaar personaaly i think luck luck is all BS --wat can be called as luck is wat the insti take as important criteria 4 selection--4 the jharkhandi public it seems to be not GA at all(me and others hav got calls at 65 %)...So wat is imp is to find thise criterion and excelling on it--Now u may say how do we know wat the insti is goping to take as an criterion frm adavance--yes these vary frm year to year but still each college has its own pecularity and trhe main raeson we fail to carck all the exams we sit 4 is taht we do not do that specific kind of prep and then moaning is of no use...
But this time arnd Xl changed their pattern --Still my caoching imsti pl and few of my seniorsa haD TOLD ME NOT TO WORRY ABT ga nd so i did not and conc only on QA n VA ..In ga i hav got 5 marks out of 40..attempted arnd 20 so must hav got 10-11 wrong--But thata is not luck..
Anywayz matter of personal opinion..
as one of members as said a call in hand is better........
Puneet
Buddy
i say the other posts u hav made in ref to repliees to above post of urs but still one thing rankles in my mind..Without more BS let me get on to it..
Yaar personaaly i think luck luck is all BS --wat can be called as luck is wat the insti take as important criteria 4 selection--4 the jharkhandi public it seems to be not GA at all(me and others hav got calls at 65 %)...So wat is imp is to find thise criterion and excelling on it--Now u may say how do we know wat the insti is goping to take as an criterion frm adavance--yes these vary frm year to year but still each college has its own pecularity and trhe main raeson we fail to carck all the exams we sit 4 is taht we do not do that specific kind of prep and then moaning is of no use...
But this time arnd Xl changed their pattern --Still my caoching imsti pl and few of my seniorsa haD TOLD ME NOT TO WORRY ABT ga nd so i did not and conc only on QA n VA ..In ga i hav got 5 marks out of 40..attempted arnd 20 so must hav got 10-11 wrong--But thata is not luck..
Anywayz matter of personal opinion..
as one of members as said a call in hand is better........
Puneet


if i am not wrong ...are u trying to tell that u already knew GA wasnt important and only thing reqd was quant? i am sry but dun believe... excuse..

neways congrats on ur call

Hi
yup i did know ga was not imp as my coaching insti ppl had told me abt it and 2 of my frnds who got xl calls last yr had similar performance as mine in GA ..
So i dids not care--still GA does not take a lot of time-u either know it or do not--wat was core of my post was my not agrreing with the luck luck(lord save the duck) thing..
Also not only quants but va n rc wer also imp
Anywayz u may disagree or disbelieve...
puneet

Buddy
i say the other posts u hav made in ref to repliees to above post of urs but still one thing rankles in my mind..Without more BS let me get on to it..
Yaar personaaly i think luck luck is all BS --wat can be called as luck is wat the insti take as important criteria 4 selection--4 the jharkhandi public it seems to be not GA at all(me and others hav got calls at 65 %)...So wat is imp is to find thise criterion and excelling on it--Now u may say how do we know wat the insti is goping to take as an criterion frm adavance--yes these vary frm year to year but still each college has its own pecularity and trhe main raeson we fail to carck all the exams we sit 4 is taht we do not do that specific kind of prep and then moaning is of no use...
But this time arnd Xl changed their pattern --Still my caoching imsti pl and few of my seniorsa haD TOLD ME NOT TO WORRY ABT ga nd so i did not and conc only on QA n VA ..In ga i hav got 5 marks out of 40..attempted arnd 20 so must hav got 10-11 wrong--But thata is not luck..
Anywayz matter of personal opinion..
as one of members as said a call in hand is better........
Puneet

Try explaining this funda or yours to someone who missed out just because of Quant inspite of having a gr8 VA and GA scores.....i think that awareness u wud not have as u completely skipped GA right...and i think u are as much naive as ur friends who suggested to skip GA as GA formed the major block for people who took the test last year.

Hey hey hey

wat is this???it seems that the head bangers on da comps brigade has taken me on!!! bUDDY no way am i naive--just ask my frnds n enemies and so were not my frnds and i can vouch 4 that...naive--bah bah !!!!
Talking abt skipping doing 20 out of 40 qs is not called skipping it is called 50% attempts..Wat i did was afats go thru the GA section,,Dunno abt last yr..Willl hav to go n yell at my insti ppl ..jUST joking as they hav always given me valuable n correct advice and naivety is not in blindly trusting them but the trust builds aftervseeing the results..
Anywayz we r digressing here and let us leave the topic here n now..Any more disbelief u can PM me..
U can still disagree to da above statement
Puneet

me shortlisted for PMIR..with 93.54%ile overall...lowest in this thread!!!...
sectionals are:
QA:95.xx
VA:87.xx
GK:65.xx
may be its the required min girl/boy ratio that favoured me!!!!!

Hey hey hey

wat is this???it seems that the head bangers on da comps brigade has taken me on!!! bUDDY no way am i naive--just ask my frnds n enemies and so were not my frnds and i can vouch 4 that...naive--bah bah !!!!
Talking abt skipping doing 20 out of 40 qs is not called skipping it is called 50% attempts..Wat i did was afats go thru the GA section,,Dunno abt last yr..Willl hav to go n yell at my insti ppl ..jUST joking as they hav always given me valuable n correct advice and naivety is not in blindly trusting them but the trust builds aftervseeing the results..
Anywayz we r digressing here and let us leave the topic here n now..Any more disbelief u can PM me..
U can still disagree to da above statement
Puneet



HEHEHE ..i liked the way u put it..."HEAD BANGERS" good name for a group .... dude ALL THE BEST.. and i was not takin u on personally...its just the IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCE

Guess its d Quant which does (or doesnt) do the trik.

Anyways.. congo to all who got the call.... n all d best to the rest :thumbsup: .. U deserve better probab

PPl .. now v req sm good input on the PI thing

Wht say?

Hey hey hey

wat is this???it seems that the head bangers on da comps brigade has taken me on!!! bUDDY no way am i naive--just ask my frnds n enemies and so were not my frnds and i can vouch 4 that...naive--bah bah !!!!
Talking abt skipping doing 20 out of 40 qs is not called skipping it is called 50% attempts..Wat i did was afats go thru the GA section,,Dunno abt last yr..Willl hav to go n yell at my insti ppl ..jUST joking as they hav always given me valuable n correct advice and naivety is not in blindly trusting them but the trust builds aftervseeing the results..
Anywayz we r digressing here and let us leave the topic here n now..Any more disbelief u can PM me..
U can still disagree to da above statement
Puneet


Me also having no intention to take fight with u......
Its a tendency...with all of us here...if i have call i will defend the process tooth and nail and if i donot i will fight for it tooth and nail....but one thing baffles me and i am dead sure i am not wrong is that there are more people talking abt luck of getting call on this thread as compared to other threads.
Correct me if I am wrong. If i get time i will also mention the number of threads where people mentioned how lucky they feeling with their poor GA and VA score and still getting the call.

Though quite late and stale it's for me, I would again reiterate.

B-schools should come out with the selection procedure criteria after sending the calls.
OK, they may have different criteria for different years, they want different profile...but atleast make it know later as to what they were looking for.

And for people who say B-schools are reputed, they know what they are doing, they don't want people to prepare for anyhting specific...I take that argument as purely stupid.

Me also having no intention to take fight with u......
Its a tendency...with all of us here...if i have call i will defend the process tooth and nail and if i donot i will fight for it tooth and nail....but one thing baffles me and i am dead sure i am not wrong is that there are more people talking abt luck of getting call on this thread as compared to other threads.
Correct me if I am wrong. If i get time i will also mention the number of threads where people mentioned how lucky they feeling with their poor GA and VA score and still getting the call.


AJ boss

PPl wid low Ga/VA hv got in.. true... but if u hv noticed .. all have good quant score

thr may be other reasons.. but this sure is thr

jus learnt of this Term in my Gd prep

Arbitrage : A concept where One Party Gets UNDESERVING advantage because of Assymetry of Information.

guess himachali has played it here no offence.

Guess , we can get into GD mood now that most of the institutes have come out with their shortlists.

~praps~

Though quite late and stale it's for me, I would again reiterate.

B-schools should come out with the selection procedure criteria after sending the calls.
OK, they may have different criteria for different years, they want different profile...but atleast make it know later as to what they were looking for.

And for people who say B-schools are reputed, they know what they are doing, they don't want people to prepare for anyhting specific...I take that argument as purely stupid.


MAN, U HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

WE THE STUDENTS SHELL OUT SO MUCH OF MONEY ON JUST ADMISSION PROCESS. I THINK WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW THE MARKING PROCEDURE...THEY SHUD NOT BE ABLE TO GET AWAY JUST BY SAYING " WE WILL AWARD SUITABLE WEIGHTAGES TO THE SECTIONS" AND ALSO THEY HAVE TO COMEOUT WITH THE CUTOFFS AND THE EXACT CRITERIA THEY FOLLOWED FOR SELECTION

I AM NOT SAYING THEY SHUD COME OUT WITH THESE BEFORE THE EXAM..

they can atleast mention all these things when they release their results....
so that we dont feel ....like we r feeling now....no words 😞