univ of CARDIFF or univ of ROBERT GORDAN

hi frens… hi i am kirti khetan from mumbai. i have compleetd my B.M.S course this april n awaiting for my results. my trck rec has been good throughout my acads with avg above 75%. the only drawback is that i dnt have any full time work exp…

hi frens...

hi i am kirti khetan from mumbai. i have compleetd my B.M.S course this april n awaiting for my results. my trck rec has been good throughout my acads with avg above 75%. the only drawback is that i dnt have any full time work exp but i did summers n even worked wid dad while studying but i guess that these exp r nt included in work exp.

but the point is that i m pusruing MBA in finance from UK. i hav a conditional offer from various univ. like

  1. university of liverpool
  2. university of cardiff
  3. university of wales institute , cardif
i have also applied to univ like UNIV.OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, UNIVE OF ROBERT GORDAN n am still waitin for the reply....

the prob here wid me is that i m confused abt the credentials of the universities. i m even worried abt the rankings, placements n all....

hey anybody who cn help me wid this asap....

kirti

Hi there,

Well i believe that of the schools u got into liverpool and cardiff are worth going for especially cardiff as its 5 rating school acording to the RAE rating 2001(the latest one), i think u can forget abt UWIC cause they didnt even submit their assesment to RAE, if u want further info pls let me know.

Also if this helps am gonna go to cardiff business school this year for my MBA prog, though its costly its definately worth it, i know a few guys who are with top consulting agencies after doing a finance from cardiff.

also if wanna go see the RAE ratings this is the site add http://www.hero.ac.uk/rae/

if ur in mumbai u can also go to edwise they might be able to give u more accurate insight,hope this info helps.

let me know if u need to know anything else.

cheers,

vinod.k

i plan to take up mba in HR at cardiff university. can anybody give me a rough idea bout, the quality of placements and the jobs.
does anybody have info bout people getting real good salaries after mba from cardiff. i ask this especially since i have a job getting me 20 grand which i plan to quit to join this course. is it feasible.

Hi Raj,

I myself got into MBA degree and plan to do a speci. in Finance and Mkt,
sorry dont know of anyone with a HR degree, but i think in general if u do an MBA degree from there u can sure expect more than 20K a month i wud say,
plus if u get a job there then its definately more than u can make here,
also can i know what ur working as now,and no. of yrs of work ex,
i ask this so that i can tell u fairly accurately abt ur possibilities

regards,

vinod.k

dear frnd...

thanx for the reply. hey btw my qualifications are an FIRST CLASS in BMS alongwith a continous experience in a TEXTILE CO. during the course of study & even a 4 month exp with RELIANCE WEB EXPRESS.

kindly reply...

kirti

hi vinod,
i am in the final stages of my BE in E&C; and have been offered a job ny a leading software firm h/q at BANG. the offer was through placement at my coll and is for 17k. My job domain, if i were to join would be a software engg.
So do you think, this particular offer at cardiff would be better off.

Hi Raj,

Congrats on ur job man, so ur a fresher, let me tell u a few pros and cons on both the aspects on ur job and on ur getting an MBA in cardiff. Pls take it with a pinch of salt as it is only an individual assessment.

First on your job:

PROS:
1) U feel secure now as u r in line with many of your batch mates.
2) U might get a chance to go abroad or work on a good proj IF AND ONLY IF u prove to ur seniors ur too good at programming and stuff.
3) U will work for 1 yr or so and get into IIMs (ideal scenario), and its a WIN win situation.


CONS:
1) U might end up in a testing or a boring proj which most companies give to their freshers.
2) U might try ur hand at IIMs, XLRI, but not hav enuf time to read as the work load increases.
3) U might say to ur next time i will give the IIMs, but that next time might never come.
4) U will get into ur companies mgmt not before another 10yrs.

now on your MBA in CARDIFF:
PROS:
1) U might get into to a good firm in UK and start leading the life u wanted too.(though employment is hard to come but its not impossible.)
2) Your degree has a certain degree of respect when u come here, atleast more than what it wud be than if u had done from a second rung institues here.
3) U get international exposure, meet students from all arnd the world, stay with them, work with them, which according to me is a huge plus which even the IIMs cant give u.

CONS:
1) There is no concept of campus placement in UK or USA, only that firms come to the campus as a part of a overall placement fair, so u got to make the pitch there.
2) If u dont get emplyoment within 3 months time after grad u hav to come back to india and search from here, and definately u will get here but the salaries might not be as high as in UK. (but again way of life is high cost affair in UK)
3) The cost of tutuion, living is high and even prohibitive to most, so be sure what u want to do, why and when u will make up that cost.(easier said than done.)

Hope i hav not ended confusing u, pls weigh this pros and cons and if u want any more details regarding these and always here to provide them,

cheers,

vinod.

Hello vinod

. R u going to cardiff this year ? How did u came to know about the placement scene out there after completing the MBA course?
. Can u give me the names of some Companies which recruit MBA's from cardiff ? Also emails of people who have done their MBA FINANCE from there?
. Also i have unconditional offer from ASTON [ MSC Finance and Investment ], University of Strathclyde [ MSc. Business and Management ] , Glasgow [ MSc. Management ] , cardiff [Mba], Warwick [MSc. Finance ]. can u help me out that which one is the best and also good in terms of placement?

Thanking You

Hi Raj,

Congrats on ur job man, so ur a fresher, let me tell u a few pros and cons on both the aspects on ur job and on ur getting an MBA in cardiff. Pls take it with a pinch of salt as it is only an individual assessment.
First on your job:
PROS:
1) U feel secure now as u r in line with many of your batch mates.
2) U might get a chance to go abroad or work on a good proj IF AND ONLY IF u prove to ur seniors ur too good at programming and stuff.
3) U will work for 1 yr or so and get into IIMs (ideal scenario), and its a WIN win situation.


CONS:
1) U might end up in a testing or a boring proj which most companies give to their freshers.
2) U might try ur hand at IIMs, XLRI, but not hav enuf time to read as the work load increases.
3) U might say to ur next time i will give the IIMs, but that next time might never come.
4) U will get into ur companies mgmt not before another 10yrs.

now on your MBA in CARDIFF:
PROS:
1) U might get into to a good firm in UK and start leading the life u wanted too.(though employment is hard to come but its not impossible.)
2) Your degree has a certain degree of respect when u come here, atleast more than what it wud be than if u had done from a second rung institues here.
3) U get international exposure, meet students from all arnd the world, stay with them, work with them, which according to me is a huge plus which even the IIMs cant give u.

CONS:
1) There is no concept of campus placement in UK or USA, only that firms come to the campus as a part of a overall placement fair, so u got to make the pitch there.
2) If u dont get emplyoment within 3 months time after grad u hav to come back to india and search from here, and definately u will get here but the salaries might not be as high as in UK. (but again way of life is high cost affair in UK)
3) The cost of tutuion, living is high and even prohibitive to most, so be sure what u want to do, why and when u will make up that cost.(easier said than done.)

Hope i hav not ended confusing u, pls weigh this pros and cons and if u want any more details regarding these and always here to provide them,

cheers,

vinod.

Yeah man am gonna go to cardiff this year gonna do my MBA (Full-time) there and most probably specialize in finance and marketing.

About getting to know abt cardiff, did a lot of R&D; on studies in UK and then came to know abt cardiff, then i went to EDWISE international in Mumbai V.T, their representatives in india. Lucky for me my counsellor herself had done her studies in UK so she was able to guide me wonderfully.

Abt placement scene dude see my previous post, i know quite a few ppl (distant relatives , friend's friend and stuff) where they hav got into goldman sachs, citibank and other great institutes,but u hav got to take the intiative my friend.

Abt which course to take, it depends on u , if ur experienced in any field then u know for sure why u want it, but if ur like me a fresher then i wud rather go for a MBA degree than a specialisation as i hav limited knowledge of what is what.

Abt getting email ids i think it wud be better if u write to these institutes themselves and ask them for email ID of ppl from india who hav done these courses.If u need to know more u can also call up edwise if ur in mumbai, their agents deal with this day in and out so u can get some knowledge abt it there.
But i wud say u can decide between cardiff, Aston and Warwick, esp warwick has a 5 * rating in business studies.

hope this info helps.

cheers,

vinod

hi buddies...

well first i would like to congragulate all those who r joining me to UK this year for their MBA ... hey to be specific i m going to LIVERPOOL !

hey by the way i m writing to enquire from vinod abt the salary that an P.G from there can receive here in indian companies.

kindly reply even if u cn give me rough idea.

Hi kirti,

Congrats on your decision to go to liverpool,
On the estimates of the sals, see its again subjective to 2 things,
1) How well u do in your studies there.
2) How well ur able to market urself to the companies here of your worth.

Anyways as ur a fresher from what i hav seen in ur posts u can expect anything in the range of 25-40k per month if not less as a PG in india.

One more thing if u get a job there (u.k) , i strongly suggest u take it up bcas then when u come back u will make much more and by then u wud hav made up the money spent on your education.

I think sometime in june-july all UK admits from PG.com shud meet what say guys, we can keep each other posted and form a strong network as well. :)

cheers,

vinod.

Hi guys,

From now onwards pls post all your queries, facts, discussions on the thread which is especially made for this, pls click on the link below for it
http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/official-2005-admits-to-uk-univs-for-mbamsc-mgmtfinance-25008945
This is for the information to be stored in a single place wher even future students can access them.

Any mods arnd pls lock this thread.

Cheers,

vinod.k

hi all,

i'll b coming 2 Cardiff Business School 4 d MBA Sep,05-06 session.

m basically from delhi, but rite now m pursuing my graduation B.E. in Bangalore.

all of u who'll join wid me can get back 2 me.\

Gaurav
Hi Raj,

I myself got into MBA degree and plan to do a speci. in Finance and Mkt,
sorry dont know of anyone with a HR degree, but i think in general if u do an MBA degree from there u can sure expect more than 20K a month i wud say,
plus if u get a job there then its definately more than u can make here,
also can i know what ur working as now,and no. of yrs of work ex,
i ask this so that i can tell u fairly accurately abt ur possibilities

regards,

vinod.k


Hi,

In this regards wanted to first tell u something abt myself and then need some suggestio.

I am a B.Sc Com Sc. graduate (2003 batch) with 58% agg. I have a total work ex. of 2yr 4 months. Which majorly consists of BPO Tech Support Exp. Off late (past 5 months) I am working in a MNC s/w firm, in Information Systems.

Want to knw --
1. What are the realistic chances of getting admission to a good b-school in UK?
2. What are the entry requirements (GMAT, IELTs... etc)
3. What is the approx fees and total cost of living?
4. Chances of getting a scholarship or alt. source of funding?
5. what is the placement scene in UK and the approx start salary?

Sorry for bombarding u with so many questions, but hope u understand my situation...

Regards.

-Ashutosh

I heard that Cardiff is a third grade university,which just takes money and the MBA there is not worth it....

Hi guys... Was confused with few universities in UK for MBA...

I got an unconditional offer for MBA in Cardiff Univ. and also conditional for Coventry and Greenwich and waiting for Liverpool John Moores and Glasgow.. so which one according to u is the best. And if you can, kindly rate the univ. as 1,2, 3, 4 and 5 and also mention any experience you have with the univ. or any of your friends experience....

Hope to get your replies soon.

take care.

Hi Pals!!
Wel....lemme First Introduce Myself Here.....m Amit!!
M In D Final Year Of My Grads(bba)....m Doin My Bba In Distance-learning From Annamalai University!!ds Is Coz I Ws Workin In D First Year Of My Grads, Though Now I Quit!!
Trust Me Guys....its Distance-learning Only By Name!!its So Damn Tough 2 Score Tht Last Year, I Expected 2 Score Atleast N Aggregate Of 70% Tht Is, I Thought If The Correction Ws Tough I Wud Score 70%....guess Wht????
I Ended Up Scoring Just 45%...isn't Dat Rediculous....there Is No Way By Wich I Can Even Recheck My Paper....instead They Hav Retotalling...isn't Dat Frustrating??though Ds Years Xams Wer Better Thn Last Year, I Still Dunno Hw Mch 2 Xpect!!
Guys, I Ws Plannin Bout Mba In Uk....ws Thinkin Bout Cardiff, St. Andrews N Aberdeen.....cud N E 1 Lemme Knw, If I M Eligible???
Is Academic Background D Only Criteria??
Also If N E 1 Cud Lemme Knw Bout D Average Package After A Cardiff Mba!!

M Really Tensed Guys....plz Help!!!!

Hi Pals!!
Wel....lemme First Introduce Myself Here.....m Amit!!
M In D Final Year Of My Grads(bba)....m Doin My Bba In Distance-learning From Annamalai University!!ds Is Coz I Ws Workin In D First Year Of My Grads, Though Now I Quit!!
Trust Me Guys....its Distance-learning Only By Name!!its So Damn Tough 2 Score Tht Last Year, I Expected 2 Score Atleast N Aggregate Of 70% Tht Is, I Thought If The Correction Ws Tough I Wud Score 70%....guess Wht????
I Ended Up Scoring Just 45%...isn't Dat Rediculous....there Is No Way By Wich I Can Even Recheck My Paper....instead They Hav Retotalling...isn't Dat Frustrating??though Ds Years Xams Wer Better Thn Last Year, I Still Dunno Hw Mch 2 Xpect!!
Guys, I Ws Plannin Bout Mba In Uk....ws Thinkin Bout Cardiff, St. Andrews N Aberdeen.....cud N E 1 Lemme Knw, If I M Eligible???
Is Academic Background D Only Criteria??
Also If N E 1 Cud Lemme Knw Bout D Average Package After A Cardiff Mba!!

M Really Tensed Guys....plz Help!!!!


With these writing skills expect doing an MBA in Greenland... seriously, stop posting stuff like this, its quite annoying, hard to read an nbdy will b willing 2 hlp u :new_ukliam2:

Hello,
I want to know that if university of liverpool doesnt need any Work exp.?

Well Liverpool John Hopes doesnt need exp.....well is it so? Please reply....

Thanks