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@iwantgovtjob said:@RoadKillgive link to check result?
Kaun sa link bhai? We were just speculating as per Keeler.drummer's statement.
@smashed said:This is very discomforting, I have 297 .
@RoadKill said::/ 297 here too. Joka was always for 99.5+ folks, so no surprises really. Hope for L!
here too :/
waise on a different note.
if anyone wants any help on the GMAT route, please drop me questions.
I have always been a GMAT person... and only wrote CAT this year due to certain circumstances.
I will be glad to help you guys on coll/country selection, job scenarios, specialisation and a bit of gyan on profile building as well.
I think CAT deserves one post from me...Luk i am not speaking in the favor of CAT or sumthing..i m just sharing my experience with two CATs...this is irrespective of the result i got this year or last year...
I kno every1 is criticising the system and the high scorers are mulling abt the calls they may get...i don't kno how the system is...but this is the environment every1 is brought up in INDIA...its been like this for ages...this year when i sat for CAT..i had no job in hand..only hope was clearing CAT...blv me during the whole journey i never thot of the results...never thot that my frens are earning or i shld also work..i aimed for excellence atleast in CAT...in 70% of the mocks i had to face the disappointment of not getting a good VA %ile...never took mock results to heart...just worked on and on and on...in CAT i never thot of normalisation..i never thot of what score i may get...went attempted questns and did them correctly acc to me and CAT as well..so i knew it at the bottom of my heart that i hv done justice to the prep...results will speak volumes automatically...i hv seen many stalwarts results not doing justice to them...but i hv seen one thing with CAT...it seems that u hv attempted the questns correctly..but sumwhere here or there u may hv committed a mistake which ur mind obviosly doesn't perceive...and u think what u hv done is correct...this case is prominent in VA...which is a huge illusion ...
So my advice to the test takers this year or next year...
attempt 40 but make sure u get 36+ correct...so that not even normalisation can do anything to u...adapting to the system is the key...i kno sumwhere it may not be transparent... but adapting to the change was the key this year...and sumtyms one gets his dues later in lyf..but definitely one gets it...i don't kno where the season may culminate...but i will make it end at my dreamplace
Few lines for the low grads and acads ppl
Ppl with high acads may hv been extraordinary till now...but it isn't necessary that they wld be extra ordinary throughout their life...IIMs need ordinary ppl with extraordinary dreams...who not only make a living themselves...but also learn to help the mankind and give back to the mankind that has given him so much...
So for every1 even if u are an ordinary person...u shld be a visionary...foresee what is coming...and live each day of life with positivity..i kno it may not be practical...but once u get that in ur system..life and world wld be a hell lot bettr place to live...
Sorry for the long post..but i tend to become a lil philosophical at times when some1 tends to speak on those lines...
Every1 is born with a purpose who has a very limited period on the globe...so make every single second count...
@nits2811 bhai yeh jo aapne bolaaa adapt to the system if ur ways dsnt work out!!!! awesomee tha from cat point of view!!!!....sahi mein it all boils down to accuracy at the end..thanks fr such a wonderful post!!!!!
@nits2811 said:I think CAT deserves one post from me...Luk i am not speaking in the favor of CAT or sumthing..i m just sharing my experience with two CATs...this is irrespective of the result i got this year or last year...I kno every1 is criticising the system and the high scorers are mulling abt the calls they may get...i don't kno how the system is...but this is the environment every1 is brought up in INDIA...its been like this for ages...this year when i sat for CAT..i had no job in hand..only hope was clearing CAT...blv me during the whole journey i never thot of the results...never thot that my frens are earning or i shld also work..i aimed for excellence atleast in CAT...in 70% of the mocks i had to face the disappointment of not getting a good VA %ile...never took mock results to heart...just worked on and on and on...in CAT i never thot of normalisation..i never thot of what score i may get...went attempted questns and did them correctly acc to me and CAT as well..so i knew it at the bottom of my heart that i hv done justice to the prep...results will speak volumes automatically...i hv seen many stalwarts results not doing justice to them...but i hv seen one thing with CAT...it seems that u hv attempted the questns correctly..but sumwhere here or there u may hv committed a mistake which ur mind obviosly doesn't perceive...and u think what u hv done is correct...this case is prominent in VA...which is a huge illusion ...So my advice to the test takers this year or next year...attempt 40 but make sure u get 36+ correct...so that not even normalisation can do anything to u...adapting to the system is the key...i kno sumwhere it may not be transparent... but adapting to the change was the key this year...and sumtyms one gets his dues later in lyf..but definitely one gets it...i don't kno where the season may culminate...but i will make it end at my dreamplaceFew lines for the low grads and acads pplPpl with high acads may hv been extraordinary till now...but it isn't necessary that they wld be extra ordinary throughout their life...IIMs need ordinary ppl with extraordinary dreams...who not only make a living themselves...but also learn to help the mankind and give back to the mankind that has given him so much...So for every1 even if u are an ordinary person...u shld be a visionary...foresee what is coming...and live each day of life with positivity..i kno it may not be practical...but once u get that in ur system..life and world wld be a hell lot bettr place to live...Sorry for the long post..but i tend to become a lil philosophical at times when some1 tends to speak on those lines...Every1 is born with a purpose who has a very limited period on the globe...so make every single second count...
I've always been a silent watcher of UDT & DT..Although, I doesn't belong here.. Let me put my point of view..
I didn't prepare anything last year but luckily I got an easy slot where I could attempt 29 in QA & ended up getting 99.2
This year, although I've prepared decent enough, I got a tough slot - no complaints.. But I got one entire DI set wrong ( cross checked the values thrice but the answer choices are no where near) wasted around 10 min in that set coz the questions were easy.. To add salt to the wound, there was one question on number system for which there is no correct answer given.. Wasted another 5 min.. (U can cross check with puys who gave CAT on Nov 4th morning slot )
DI was always my forte but ended up attempting mere 2 out of 9 questions.. When the session ended, could attempt only 21 in QA with two unsure attempts... This forced me to change my strategy & made me attempt more in VA (27) .. No way other than taking a chance.. Because of my past acads :-(:-(
I've always dreamt of Joka & my dream will remain dream forever.. :-(:-(:-(:-(
Even gave same feedback after Cat in the survey by prometric.. no response whatsoever.. Is this the way such prestigious institutes behave when something has gone wrong ??
Now look at Xat..we knw what questions are wrong & they straight away apologized.. !! So transparent, no normalization nothing !!
My only point is, each & every individial no matter how intelligent & hardworking he/she is, they are bound to commit mistake at some time or other but that should not cost much !! when someone has really put some efforts.. He should be given a fair chance.. Hence, only paper & pencil format can bring equal justice !!
Sorry for spamming !!
I didn't prepare anything last year but luckily I got an easy slot where I could attempt 29 in QA & ended up getting 99.2
This year, although I've prepared decent enough, I got a tough slot - no complaints.. But I got one entire DI set wrong ( cross checked the values thrice but the answer choices are no where near) wasted around 10 min in that set coz the questions were easy.. To add salt to the wound, there was one question on number system for which there is no correct answer given.. Wasted another 5 min.. (U can cross check with puys who gave CAT on Nov 4th morning slot )
DI was always my forte but ended up attempting mere 2 out of 9 questions.. When the session ended, could attempt only 21 in QA with two unsure attempts... This forced me to change my strategy & made me attempt more in VA (27) .. No way other than taking a chance.. Because of my past acads :-(:-(
I've always dreamt of Joka & my dream will remain dream forever.. :-(:-(:-(:-(
Even gave same feedback after Cat in the survey by prometric.. no response whatsoever.. Is this the way such prestigious institutes behave when something has gone wrong ??
Now look at Xat..we knw what questions are wrong & they straight away apologized.. !! So transparent, no normalization nothing !!
My only point is, each & every individial no matter how intelligent & hardworking he/she is, they are bound to commit mistake at some time or other but that should not cost much !! when someone has really put some efforts.. He should be given a fair chance.. Hence, only paper & pencil format can bring equal justice !!
Sorry for spamming !!
@Love_CAT said:@bhargav.nitcdots will connect brother...keep walking...
Thanx bro.. This is my 3rd & final attempt.. Want to finish MBA by 26 coz of personal reasons.. Just hope at least my XAT result comes out well !!
@bhargav.nitc said:I've always been a silent watcher of UDT & DT..Although, I doesn't belong here.. Let me put my point of view..I didn't prepare anything last year but luckily I got an easy slot where I could attempt 29 in QA & ended up getting 99.2This year, although I've prepared decent enough, I got a tough slot - no complaints.. But I got one entire DI set wrong ( cross checked the values thrice but the answer choices are no where near) wasted around 10 min in that set coz the questions were easy.. To add salt to the wound, there was one question on number system for which there is no correct answer given.. Wasted another 5 min.. (U can cross check with puts who gave CAT on Nov 4th morning slot )DI was always my forte but ended up attempting mere 2 out of 9 questions.. When the session ended, could attempt only 21 in QA with two unsure attempts... This forced me to change my strategy & made me attempt more in VA (27) .. No way other than taking a chance.. Because of my past acads I've always dreamt of Joka & my dream will remain dream forever.. Even gave same feedback after Cat in the survey by prometric.. no response whatsoever.. Is this the way such prestigious institutes behave when something has gone wrong ?? Now look at Xat..we knw what questions are wrong & they straight away apologized.. !! So transparent, no normalization nothing !!My only point is, each & every individial no matter how intelligent he/she is bound to commit mistake at some time or other but that should not cost much !! when someone has really put some efforts.. He should be given a fair chance.. Hence, only paper & pencil format can bring equal justice !!Sorry for spamming !!
well addressing ur concern..let me tell ya...when the pen-pencil thing was there...the wrong questions wr sometimes put on purpose to check ur chaotic side as well...may be they are doing it in online format as well...this is probably where u faltered...had u maintained ur cool and attempted the questns u knew the best...u cld hv managed a 99 this year as well...and when u knew that VA is not ur forte u shldn't hv taken a risk where the returns may not be good..u shld hv 4got sect 1...i kno it isnt easy ...but that is what is expected out of u later on in lyf as well when u becum a manager...so a more calmer approach cld hv got ya a good score...ask @RoadKill..this lad attempted 15+22 i.e. 37 and still managed 99.5...@DEBJITNAG ..this guy attempted 48 managed 99.97....so u getting what i am saying...accuracy is the key not the attempts...u probably got a lil too concerned with attempts...had u attempted 20 in both..u cld hv sailed thru...and dude blv me ..a tough slot is better than an easy slot...
@nits2811 said:well addressing ur concern..let me tell ya...when the pen-pencil thing was there...the wrong questions wr sometimes put on purpose to check ur chaotic side as well...may be they are doing it in online format as well...this is probably where u faltered...had u maintained ur cool and attempted the questns u knew the best...u cld hv managed a 99 this year as well...and when u knew that VA is not ur forte u shldn't hv taken a risk where the returns may not be good..u shld hv 4got sect 1...i kno it isnt easy ...but that is what is expected out of u later on in lyf as well when u becum a manager...so a more calmer approach cld hv got ya a good score...ask @RoadKill..this lad attempted 15+22 i.e. 37 and still managed 99.5...@DEBJITNAG ..this guy attempted 48 managed 99.97....so u getting what i am saying...accuracy is the key not the attempts...u probably got a lil too concerned with attempts...had u attempted 20 in both..u cld hv sailed thru...and dude blv me ..a tough slot is better than an easy slot...
U cannot & cannot simply draw inferences plain straight!! No one really knows whether accuracy is the only thing that matters or does some one consider difficulty level or not, etc, etc,.. & coming to ur giving of wrong questions purposefully.. I'm sorry to say but does it make sense in what u r saying?? Previously CAT used to have more than 100 questions.. Now only 60 & on top of that normalization & scaling.. In such a scenario, I think each & every one understands the importance of even a single negative mark & hw much it can cost to ur %ile!! Hope u understand!! Also, in paper pencil type.. if its a wrong its a wrong to all the 1.9L candidates.. Wat abt online?? is it the same no of wrong questions across all slots?? can u plz confirm?? And no one goes to CAT preparing so well thinking that he will be getting wrong questions & one has to watch out for them!!
& I also attempted more in VA cause I knw with my past acads, I shud get 99.5 + & since, this is my last attempt I should take that risk!! Had those questions be correct, then why would I take such a risk!!
I'm not denying the fact that guys scoring 99 + does not deserve.. My only point is paper & pencil is 10000000 times better than online exam!!
@nits2811 said:well addressing ur concern..let me tell ya...when the pen-pencil thing was there...the wrong questions wr sometimes put on purpose to check ur chaotic side as well...may be they are doing it in online format as well...this is probably where u faltered...had u maintained ur cool and attempted the questns u knew the best...u cld hv managed a 99 this year as well...and when u knew that VA is not ur forte u shldn't hv taken a risk where the returns may not be good..u shld hv 4got sect 1...i kno it isnt easy ...but that is what is expected out of u later on in lyf as well when u becum a manager...so a more calmer approach cld hv got ya a good score...ask @RoadKill..this lad attempted 15+22 i.e. 37 and still managed 99.5...@DEBJITNAG ..this guy attempted 48 managed 99.97....so u getting what i am saying...accuracy is the key not the attempts...u probably got a lil too concerned with attempts...had u attempted 20 in both..u cld hv sailed thru...and dude blv me ..a tough slot is better than an easy slot...
1st of all congrats Nits bhai for excellent Cat results... i beg to differ with you on some points, though u can bring up my past failures in online cat, which i know you are humble enough not to bring upon, and if someone does then i would add i have failed in paper based format exams in the past too.. 
adding wrong questions in some slots while not in others does not create chaos rightfully, it creates inequality.... ( i had no wrong questions in my slot) , and points out to there ineffectiveness.....
2ndly, i can believe my scores, but i did not that of doc or esteller, something must be wrong with the system, i am not saying that it distorts the results of all, people like u,debjit, and other deserving people have got what they deserved , people getting 99+ are brights 1s, but many deserving ones are left behind....
3rdly, i agree with you, accuracy is more important, but the people who conduct cat has made it clear about the +3/-1 format, and we all feel, that still something does not fit into the picture, people with higher attempts end up loosing the battle, even Ravi Teja Palla acknowledged that accuracy matters more than attempts.... but seriously it still looks like some complex maths is involved while calculating scores, some people attempting less than 15 questions i know got a score of more than 130 in that section, which is theoretically not possible, if it is not normalized, and yes accuracy has to do something with it..... u r absolutely right on this part,, but i hate this online version , it might have been equally difficult for me to crack offline as well, but atleast i would have known where i am loosing out....this is the biggest problem, with other exams like IIFT, XAT i still can guage where i need to work when i would re-take, but with cat i do not know, and i would never know,
your words are true, we need a calmer approach, risk management, to be a better manager, but trust me buddy, this form of cat with so much of inequality and lack of transparency does not serve the purpose.
PS: If anyone thinks this is a spam, please think it as we are having a healthy discussion on a controversial topic,,,,, ( for the GD-PI prep, though i have received just one call but i hope Nits bhai receive all of the calls and do justice to the preparation he has done)
@pratskool said:1st of all congrats Nits bhai for excellent Cat results... i beg to differ with you on some points, though u can bring up my past failures in online cat, which i know you are humble enough not to bring upon, and if someone does then i would add i have failed in paper based format exams in the past too.. adding wrong questions in some slots while not in others does not create chaos rightfully, it creates inequality.... ( i had no wrong questions in my slot) , and points out to there ineffectiveness..... 2ndly, i can believe my scores, but i did not that of doc or esteller, something must be wrong with the system, i am not saying that it distorts the results of all, people like u,debjit, and other deserving people have got what they deserved , people getting 99+ are brights 1s, but many deserving ones are left behind.... 3rdly, i agree with you, accuracy is more important, but the people who conduct cat has made it clear about the +3/-1 format, and we all feel, that still something does not fit into the picture, people with higher attempts end up loosing the battle, even Ravi Teja Palla acknowledged that accuracy matters more than attempts.... but seriously it still looks like some complex maths is involved while calculating scores, some people attempting less than 15 questions i know got a score of more than 130 in that section, which is theoretically not possible, if it is not normalized, and yes accuracy has to do something with it..... u r absolutely right on this part,, but i hate this online version , it might have been equally difficult for me to crack offline as well, but atleast i would have known where i am loosing out.... your words are true, we need a calmer approach, risk management, to be a better manager, but trust me buddy, this form of cat with so much of inequality and lack of transparency does not serve the purpose.
another thing adding bhai.....what's the fuss about the anchor questions...what i had heard that suppose there are 5 anchor questions each in both sections and if someone did all 5 correct it will add a very high weightage and if these 5 went wrong...it will adversely affect the sectional percentile....."anchor questions are those which are common in maximum number of slots"....understanding the CAT is beyond me from my last 2 attempts.....everytime i came to know something new about this normalisation saga or LOFT......and now anchor questions
...and now anchor questions@TONYMBA said:another thing adding bhai.....what's the fuss about the anchor questions...what i had heard that suppose there are 5 anchor questions each in both sections and if someone did all 5 correct it will add a very high weightage and if these 5 went wrong...it will adversely affect the sectional percentile....."anchor questions are those which are common in maximum number of slots"....understanding the CAT is beyond me from my last 2 attempts.....everytime i came to know something new about this normalisation saga or LOFT......and now anchor questions
i hear a new concept of normalisation, anchor questions, wrong questions, every year, and its true that i am not embarrassed when i say i am frustrated coz of the system, not coz i am failing in it every time, i have failed XAT and IIFT also twice ... (finally got IIFT call this year).... but because, i have no clue where to improve for cat... and this time, it was like high time,,,
never the less, if time calls for it, there would be another shot from me toward billi.... i have not given up hopes that someday the system would be more improved...
@pratskool said:1st of all congrats Nits bhai for excellent Cat results... i beg to differ with you on some
Let me pitch in here with some insights that I have gathered over the past 2 years of my prep leading to 2 failures.
First of all let us understand what is the purpose of an entrance examination? Is it just to filter people, stop most of the people from entering your gates and forming a batch for the next session? Or is it an exercise to identify the right candidates with right skills required for the course!
CAT in its online format is unfair is the least we can say. With different people getting different papers with no real psychometric process involved in it like GMAT, it is bound to be unfair. No one would be able to justify the fairness of an online paper with a +3/-1 format mixed with LOFT and "Normalization".
As you pointed out some people have got 130+ scores with 15 or lesser attempts, now this clearly shows that you can get an advantage of 2-3 questions in raw score if you have high accuracy in difficult questions. Also you can reach the same score with more attempts with a few wrongs. Now my question is- How are the two approaches linked to the suitability of a candidate with respect to the course he is to undertake for the next 2 years?
It is not linked. IIMs are not bothered about that. There is no real thought process going into that. All they are concerned about is how to stop such an influx of people from entering their gates. Nobody is bothered at IIMs if right candidates are entering the course or not. There might be several reasons for this but clearly no brainstorming is being done to improve the process.
I have no grudge against the IIM professors but had I been at their position I would have tried to do something to improve the process. There are several alternatives- Accept GMAT, make CAT year round with multiple attempts, try and make CAT like GMAT with psychometric process involved instead of +3/-1 format.
Also I do not agree with the argument of dealing with a chaotic situation is a mark of a good manager and hence you should deal with it. Is everyone who gets through those gates dealing with it? Aren't IIMs people showing themselves to be poor managers by not looking into the situation?
My only point in the whole argument is- IIMs are not showing world class quality and hence people should lower their expectations from CAT. Do not stop your life for CAT, keep doing what you want to do in life and keep CAT a one day affair!! There are other alternatives to become a manager and if you have it in you, you will make it one day. 
Cheers and Best of luck to everyone!