Strategy consulting schools

Hi All, I am mad at Strategy consulting and I compiled the following list of schools which are better in SC. Could you guys please advise whether any other Top 25 schools need to be added up with the list? Thank you… 1. Hardward university …

Hi All,
I am mad at Strategy consulting and I compiled the following list of schools which are better in SC. Could you guys please advise whether any other Top 25 schools need to be added up with the list? Thank you..
1. Hardward university
2. Stanford university
3. Dartmouth school(Tuck)
4. Wharton
5. Kellogg
6. Yale
7. Michigan
8. Darden
9. Chicago
10. MIT
11. Berk(Haas)
12. Emory
13. Carnegie Mellon(Tepper)
14. Kelley
15. UC davis
Take care..
Mangal

Hi All,
I am mad at Strategy consulting and I compiled the following list of schools which are better in SC. Could you guys please advise whether any other Top 25 schools need to be added up with the list? Thank you..
1. Hardward university
2. Stanford university



Things that make me go .. huh

What you have asked for can be gleaned by going through the placement stats for individual schools and then figuring out where the consulting guys hire from. I am not sure any rankings are available to discern that information. But the top 5/6 schools are feeder schools and would help you get a foot into the door of the Strat. Consulting firms 😃

Thanks buddy..As you know its not easy to get into Top 5/6 schools..Let me try my best...

You forgot Duke. It has a pretty strong Strategy concentration.

Businessweek's online premium content - MBA insider also has some write ups/articles distinguishing schools by speciality. Although there is a fee for it , I think its worth a read.

Barricuda Says
Businessweek's online premium content - MBA insider also has some write ups/articles distinguishing schools by speciality. Although there is a fee for it , I think its worth a read.


Hi Barricuda,

It would be great If you can post the stuff here..I already took access to US news and cant afford to take more..:neutral:

Thanx..

Would love to share, but the moderators go snip snipping copyrighted content:) , not that I am blaming them for doing that

Hi Barricuda,

It would be great If you can post the stuff here..I already took access to US news and cant afford to take more..:neutral:

Thanx..

I guess I hit the dirt.. was looking for exactly this topic..

I'm afraid to say but you made a faux pas.. for the simple reason that your list did not contain INSEAD, which is actually at the top of the pack when you are considering Strategy/ Consulting schools.

I dont know how you arrived at that list.. but if Management Consulting recruiters are your sole criteria then I dont blame you.

Well, to make a list of Top B-schools specialising in Strategic Consulting, I would consider the following criteria:

1) Availability of Specilization/ Concentration tracks in Management Consulting/ Strategy
2) Adequacy of number of electives relating to Strategy/ Consulting
3) Existence & pro-activeness of a (student run) Consulting Club
4) No. of Management Consulting firms recruiting at the school/ No. & % of students joining MC firms
5) Reputation of School/ Faculty for Strategy/ Consulting as per current students, alumni & the MC firms
6) Focus & emphasis / attitude/ dedication of the School management towards Consulting industry

After days of empirical research, I was able to make a list of some schools fitting in those criteria. But I could not find some readily available list/ high end research to corroborate my findings. Before I put down my list, one clear disclaimer: THIS LIST DOES NOT CONTAIN THE TOP 10 GLOBAL B-SCHOOLS, with exceptions of 2. (I know one can dispute over the top 10 list endlessly, but just drop that..) In the top schools, any where, all kinds of recruiters are going to flock, so will the MC firms.. but that does not necessarily make that school specialized in Consulting/ Strategy. By excluding them, I am aware that I may miss out on a school which is actually quite focused on Consulting. I am running that risk and request you guys to fill out that gap by including the top schools in the list i.e. only if it fulfils the above mentioned criteria. Well, here is my list (also consisting their global rankings as per FT MBA 2008 rankings):

1) INSEAD, France (# 6)
2) NYU - Stern, USA (# 13)
3) Dartmouth College - Tuck, USA (# 15)
4) Carnegie Mellon - Tepper, USA (# 4
5) Cornell University - Johnson, USA (# 36)
6) RSM - Erasmus University, Netherlands (# 34)
7) University of Chicago GSB, USA (# 9)
Duke Fuqua, USA (# 2
9) ISB, India (# 20)
10) University of Virginia - Darden, USA (# 33)
11) Emory University - Goizueta (# 26)
12) IESE - University of Navarra, Spain (# 11)

This is just a list & not a ranking.. though, the top 5 mentioned in this list is undisputedly in that order...

Guys (who are interested in Consulting), roll up ur sleeves & dig for more.. i am sure, we can deliberate & come to a agreeable list of the Top Strategic Consulting B-Schools..

All the best!! :angel:

I guess I hit the dirt.. was looking for exactly this topic..

I'm afraid to say but you made a faux pas.. for the simple reason that your list did not contain INSEAD, which is actually at the top of the pack when you are considering Strategy/ Consulting schools.

I dont know how you arrived at that list.. but if Management Consulting recruiters are your sole criteria then I dont blame you.

Well, to make a list of Top B-schools specialising in Strategic Consulting, I would consider the following criteria:

1) Availability of Specilization/ Concentration tracks in Management Consulting/ Strategy
2) Adequacy of number of electives relating to Strategy/ Consulting
3) Existence & pro-activeness of a (student run) Consulting Club
4) No. of Management Consulting firms recruiting at the school/ No. & % of students joining MC firms
5) Reputation of School/ Faculty for Strategy/ Consulting as per current students, alumni & the MC firms
6) Focus & emphasis / attitude/ dedication of the School management towards Consulting industry

After days of empirical research, I was able to make a list of some schools fitting in those criteria. But I could not find some readily available list/ high end research to corroborate my findings. Before I put down my list, one clear disclaimer: THIS LIST DOES NOT CONTAIN THE TOP 10 GLOBAL B-SCHOOLS, with exceptions of 2. (I know one can dispute over the top 10 list endlessly, but just drop that..) In the top schools, any where, all kinds of recruiters are going to flock, so will the MC firms.. but that does not necessarily make that school specialized in Consulting/ Strategy. By excluding them, I am aware that I may miss out on a school which is actually quite focused on Consulting. I am running that risk and request you guys to fill out that gap by including the top schools in the list i.e. only if it fulfils the above mentioned criteria. Well, here is my list (also consisting their global rankings as per FT MBA 2008 rankings):

1) INSEAD, France (# 6)
2) NYU - Stern, USA (# 13)
3) Dartmouth College - Tuck, USA (# 15)
4) Carnegie Mellon - Tepper, USA (# 4
5) Cornell University - Johnson, USA (# 36)
6) RSM - Erasmus University, Netherlands (# 34)
7) University of Chicago GSB, USA (# 9)
Duke Fuqua, USA (# 2
9) ISB, India (# 20)
10) University of Virginia - Darden, USA (# 33)
11) Emory University - Goizueta (# 26)
12) IESE - University of Navarra, Spain (# 11)

This is just a list & not a ranking.. though, the top 5 mentioned in this list is undisputedly in that order...

Guys (who are interested in Consulting), roll up ur sleeves & dig for more.. i am sure, we can deliberate & come to a agreeable list of the Top Strategic Consulting B-Schools..

All the best!! :angel:


Seems to be a very well thought out list....

You could also consider adding UC Berkeley (Haas) in there....wot say vyom?

UC Berkely - Haas!!! Hmm... I actually did considered it in my evaluation.. You see, just simply by going to the school's website, you can find many things... u'll learn that there is no speciality in Strategy/ Consulting, neither sufficient electives to make the equivalent. It does have a Consulting Cub which is pretty good. The MC recruiters are not consistent there (though the list of MC recruiters will contain all those recruiter over the years). I spoke to one of my acquaintances about this school and his views on the Consulting aspect of Haas were not very great. Though, undoubtedly it is a very good school (FT 2008 ranks it at 32 globally) with a great reputation. But when it comes to Consulting, I am litle skeptical. I suggest you to re-consider it after some more research. And if we feel that it has what it takes to be a good Consulting B-school, we will add it to the list.. 😁

Some interesting names there ! Its pretty strange that you chose not to include the top 10 because thats where strategy MC firms recruit from the most. And I always thought NYU Stern is majorly a finance school. Do correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Cheers,
c00

Hi Mangalman,

i would like to know if these schools are ranked here? also, what is the criteria used?
the list doesnt seem right to me.








Hi All,
I am mad at Strategy consulting and I compiled the following list of schools which are better in SC. Could you guys please advise whether any other Top 25 schools need to be added up with the list? Thank you..
1. Hardward university
2. Stanford university
3. Dartmouth school(Tuck)
4. Wharton
5. Kellogg
6. Yale
7. Michigan
8. Darden
9. Chicago
10. MIT
11. Berk(Haas)
12. Emory
13. Carnegie Mellon(Tepper)
14. Kelley
15. UC davis
Take care..
Mangal
Some interesting names there ! Its pretty strange that you chose not to include the top 10 because thats where strategy MC firms recruit from the most. And I always thought NYU Stern is majorly a finance school. Do correct me if I'm wrong. :)

Cheers,
c00



Hi Coolguy

If you read my original post, you will see my clear disclaimer that I have not included d Top 10 schools with exceptions of 2 and the reasons for the same. Yes, you are right in saying that that's where MC firms mostly recruit from for the simple reason that they want all the cream!! I also said that by excluding the Top 10, I am running a major risk. Hope, you will fill dat GAP. But ensure that the school you are mentioning satisfies all the criteria I mentioned in my original post, 'coz if u just list all the Top 10 schools, then probably we do not need this post and can just refer to any good rankings and thats it. But catch is most of the schools reputation in regards to specialisation is held in regards to Finance, Marketing, HR, OB, Innovation etc. But there is very less info available to determine where a school stands in MC/ Strategy. Thats why this post and the criteria to determine that.

I guess, we should come out with much refined criteria and take help of PagalGuy.com to establish a ranking of say Top 25 B-schools globally specialising in Consulting/ Strategy. Wot say, administrators?

Also, regarding your second question of NYU - Stern.. Yes, it is known to be a very strong school in Finance, especially because of its proximity & relations with Wall Street. Most of Finance Co.'s in Wall Street have their first choice as Stern. But needless to say, since the concept of specialization in Consulting/ Strategy is less accepted by people, primarily because it basically involves understanding of the fundamental concepts of various aspects of management like Finance, HR, Marketing (where we have recognised specializations) and an analytical bent of mind and good problem solving approach. That does the trick to be successful in Consulting. But since, NYU - Stern satisfies, at a good level, all the criteria I listed out, its at no. 2. If you ask any alumni or consultant, what is the strength of NYU - Stern, they will undoubtedly tell you - Finance. But that does not downplay it's strength in Strategy/ Consulting. May be if you have some other opinions about it from its alumni, MC recruiters, we will look at it again.. 😃
Hi Mangalman,

i would like to know if these schools are ranked here? also, what is the criteria used?
the list doesnt seem right to me.


yes, columbia10admit, u r right.. the list is not correct, though not completely wrong too..
I dont think, managalam has ranked the schools in his list.. and to my knowledge, there is not rankings available for B-schools specializing in Consulting/ Strategy. Even I am wondering what criteria he has used. Ne way, I have also listed some schools and the criteria for evaluation of schools, in this post. Please have a look at it and let me know your opinions.

In case, if you have been admitted to Columbia Biz school, first of all, Congratulations!! and maybe if you can help us to come out wid a gud list, it will be a gr8 help. Thanks 😃

This was indeed informative...

However I m looking forward to applying to the European schools than the US ones... Good to see INSEAD there...

what are the other European schools good for consulting/strategy???

The London School of Economics (LSE) has a masters' program MSc Management and Strategy. The core course content focuses heavily on strategy, managerial economics and organizational architecture. Finance is covered in the core and also can be taken as an elective (Corporate finance).

Since it's not an MBA, so maybe most people don't consider this program in their lists. Also, the junta in this program would mostly be with less work experience, so consulting firms wouldn't usually offer the same kind of profiles as to MBA grads. (apart from the fact that UK's economy is pretty screwed up right now...)
But course content wise, this program should definitely feature in every list.

Ppl what do you think?

Dear Puys and Vyom56,

To an extent you are right. Let me put my 2 cents

The concept of strategy consulting doesnt start from knowing everything and then applying it with little brains.

I m working in a consulting field. And i can assure you that it is much more than that---
Strategy involves the amalgamation of all the concepts in a manner that is amiable to the client as well provide the path to succeed . Believe me there is no right or wrong path in strategy consulting.

So end of the day its the strategy and creativity and to use creativity you need to have lots of experience which no school provide unless its built in its curriculum.
MBA makes managers and consultants so either u become a manager managing people internally or a consultant managing clients externally.
So, the case based study along with the recruitment srength and the market fluctuations of the school region mixed with the general sentiments in the application process(leading to quality of students) drives the best of schools..
Believe me at the end of the day in getting into strategy consulting u need more than brains and an MBA. you need a complete package to sell. a b school can help u in interview not beyond that... So after this long lecture my List

1. Harvard
2. Tuck (lately the new course curriculum and focus towards sustainability has attracted more consulting firms)
3. Wharton
4. Richard Ivey (A good regional school with meteoric rise in strategy consulting domain in canada. One of the top 4 schools with only case based study)
5. IESE (University of Navarra has instituted new professors with the right mix and added new flavor to the course)
6. INSEAD( A general MBA program because of its global nature is hit with consulting world)
7. Duke (Lately due to the fuqua initiatives and heavy placement in last 4 years has helped a big alumni base in consulting firms helping in leverage)
8. LBS (London consulting groups look towards it for further help)
9. IMD (This consulting is not for weak hearted)
10. ISB/CIEBS (Good for emerging nations)
11. Darden/kelloggs
12. NYU stern
13. Cornell
14. IE Business school
15. Stanford
16. UC Berkely
17. Emory
18. Columbia
19. Yale
20. Mc Combs/AGSM

Hi ,

Can anybody tell me how is Kellogs in MC ( Management Consulting ) specialisation?

I would be targetting the 1 year programs and am interested to specialise in MC/Strategy. I plan to apply after 1.5 years.But as of now I could shortlist only a few of them ( in my order of preference ):
1)ISB ( brand and cost)
2) INSEAD(singapore, again because of cost )
3)LBS
4) IMD
5) Kellogs

Please suggest me some more options ( for 1 year MBA ) and please do account for the cost of the MBA( considering the no of years to repay the loan ).

And one more suggestion I need , I am currently into application development in Microsoft technologies (asp.net , c#, SQL server , etc) but since I want to shift to MC post MBA, so would you suggest me to shift more towards the business/system analyst role within the organisation , for a smooth transition to Management Consulting role?