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@Koushik98 said:
A circle is drawn inside a trapezium such that it touches all the four sides of the trapezium. The linejoining the midpoints of the non-parallel sides divides the trapezium in two parts with areas in theratio 3 : 5. If the lengths of the non-parallel sides are 6 cm and 10 cm, then what is the length (in cm)of the longer parallel side of the trapezium?(a) 8 (b) 10 (c) 12 (d) Cannot be determined
Should be 12....the total of the two parallel sides should be 16 and the ratio should be 2 : 6

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@bodhi_vriksha said:
It is simply number of dd factors of '100' - 1 i.e. 4 - 1 = 3And the ways are 1000 = 5*200 = 198 + 199 + 200 + 201 + 2021000 = 16*62.5 = 55 + ....+ 62 + 63 + ...+ 701000 = 25*40 = 28 + ....+ 40 + ..+ 52Hope it helps
what are dd factors bhai?? can u pls elaborate??
130:154 :: 178 : __
@Cat.Aspirant123 said:
130:154 :: 178 : __
202 ?
@Koushik98 said:
A circle is drawn inside a trapezium such that it touches all the four sides of the trapezium. The linejoining the midpoints of the non-parallel sides divides the trapezium in two parts with areas in theratio 3 : 5. If the lengths of the non-parallel sides are 6 cm and 10 cm, then what is the length (in cm)of the longer parallel side of the trapezium?(a) 8 (b) 10 (c) 12 (d) Cannot be determined
It is (c) 12.

The parallel sides (smaller, middle, longer) are in the ratio 1 : 2 : 3

Try to draw the diagram and extend non-parallel sides to complete the triangle. I am just giving this hint. It'll be better for you to apply some brain on it and get the result.
@TONYMBA said:
202 ?
no
@Koushik98 said:
what are dd factors bhai?? can u pls elaborate??
it is 'ODD' factors...edited in above post :)
@Cat.Aspirant123 said:
130:154 :: 178 : __
@Cat.Aspirant123 said:
no
218 :)
@Koushik98 said:
what are dd factors bhai?? can u pls elaborate??
Basically, the number of ways in which N can be written as a sum of two or more consecutive natural numbers is the same as number of odd factors of N minus 1.

1000=2^3 * 5^3

Now odd factors will be contributed only by the powers of 5, ranging fom 5^0 to 5^3. These are 4 in number.

Hence the required number of ways = 4-1=3
@bodhi_vriksha said:
Basically, the number of ways in which N can be written as a sum of two or more consecutive natural numbers is the same as number of odd factors of N minus 1.1000=2^3 * 5^3Now odd factors will be contributed only by the powers of 5, ranging fom 5^0 to 5^3. These are 4 in number.Hence the required number of ways = 4-1=3
Any logic behind this? Why is it Number of odd factors - 1?
@bodhi_vriksha said:
Basically, the number of ways in which N can be written as a sum of two or more consecutive natural numbers is the same as number of odd factors of N minus 1.1000=2^3 * 5^3Now odd factors will be contributed only by the powers of 5, ranging fom 5^0 to 5^3. These are 4 in number.Hence the required number of ways = 4-1=3
thanks a ton....
@Koushik98 said:
A circle is drawn inside a trapezium such that it touches all the four sides of the trapezium. The line
joining the midpoints of the non-parallel sides divides the trapezium in two parts with areas in the
ratio 3 : 5. If the lengths of the non-parallel sides are 6 cm and 10 cm, then what is the length (in cm)
of the longer parallel side of the trapezium?
(a) 8 (b) 10 (c) 12 (d) Cannot be determined
12
@nramachandran said:
Any logic behind this? Why is it Number of odd factors - 1?
First answer this query: If we add some 'n' consecutive natural numbers then their sum will be n*Average...is that right?

Now tell me what will be the average if n is (i) odd, (ii) even
Did not see your thoughts on my query yet and the posts seem to have stopped. So, consider the following two cases:

Case1 (odd number of terms): Suppose the sequence has 2x+1 terms, and the middle term is y
=> N=(2x+1)y, where 2x+1 is the odd factor.

Case 2 (even number of terms): Suppose there are 2y terms, and middle terms are x and x+1
=>N=2y{(x+x+1)/2}=y(2x+1), where 2x+1 is the odd factor.

Clearly for each set of consecutive numbers that adds up to N, there is an odd factor of N and every odd factor greater that 1 leads to a distinct set.

Therefore the number of such sets are the same as the number of odd factors more than 1.

Another query for you to ponder on: Which natural numbers cannot be expressed as the sum of two or more consecutive integers?
@bodhi_vriksha said:
It is simply number of odd factors of '100' - 1 i.e. 4 - 1 = 3And the ways are 1000 = 5*200 = 198 + 199 + 200 + 201 + 2021000 = 16*62.5 = 55 + ....+ 62 + 63 + ...+ 701000 = 25*40 = 28 + ....+ 40 + ..+ 52Hope it helps
can u pls tell how u r getting that 62.5???rest is ok....
@Koushik98 said:
can u pls tell how u r getting that 62.5???rest is ok....
If there are even number of terms in a sequence, there are two middle terms, whose average gives the overall middle term for the entire sequence.

In the case at hand the two middle terms for the sequence (from 55 to 70) are 62 and 63, whose average is 62.5.

Another way to view the same thing and which is a more generic one (also holds for odd number of terms) - since this is a set of consecutive numbers, the middle term will be the average of the first and the last terms -> (55+70) /2 = 62.5

Hope your query is at rest now:)
Find Remainder when 888222888222. . . . . up to 9235 digits divided by 53

Find Remainder when 10^ 2 + 11^ 2 + 12^2 + . . . . 28^ 2 is divided by 19

@Koushik98 said:
can u pls tell how u r getting that 62.5???rest is ok....
If there are even number of terms in a sequence, there are two middle terms, whose average gives the overall middle term for the entire sequence.

In the case at hand the two middle terms for the sequence (from 55 to 70) are 62 and 63, whose average is 62.5.

Another way to view the same thing and which is a more generic one (also holds for odd number of terms) - since this is a set of consecutive numbers, the middle term will be the average of the first and the last terms -> (55+70) /2 = 62.5

Hope your query is at rest now:)
@bodhi_vriksha said:
If there are even number of terms in a sequence, there are two middle terms, whose average gives the overall middle term for the entire sequence.In the case at hand the two middle terms for the sequence (from 55 to 70) are 62 and 63, whose average is 62.5.Another way to view the same thing and which is a more generic one (also holds for odd number of terms) - since this is a set of consecutive numbers, the middle term will be the average of the first and the last terms -> (55+70) /2 = 62.5Hope your query is at rest now
yeah thats ok.....but
see... the odd factors of 1000 are 5, 25,125,1
Taking n=5,we are getting avg=200,hence 198+ 199+......+202
Taking n=25, we are getting avg=40,hence 28+29+30+.....+52
But for avg =62.5,we are getting n=16 on what logic are we taking n=16 or vice versa avg=62.5? is it by trial and error??? Hope my query is clear now.......
@Faruq said:
Find Remainder when 10^ 2 + 11^ 2 + 12^2 + . . . . 28^ 2 is divided by 19
0

10^2 + 11^2 + ... + 28^2 = 28*29*57/6 - 9*10*19/6
Both the terms are divisible by 19 (57 and 19)
Hence remainder = 0