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If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)


@iLoveTorres said:
bro thoda detail mein samjha do how to solve this types of questions
Algebra is my weak link 😃 Always end up taking long methods in these...ismein bhi I was doing some complex mess, eliminated 2 options, but couldn't choose between the other two!

regards
scrabbler

@amresh_maverick said:
If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
0? -3/2?
@amresh_maverick said:
If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
2?

regards
scrabbler

@amresh_maverick said:
If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
2.

see,
a+b+c = -4/2
ab+bc+ac = -3/2
and abc = 1/2

open the brackets (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
u get 1-abc + ab+bc+ac - (a+B+c)
put the values .. u'll get 2.

sorry edit. it's 1. not 2.
@scrabbler said:
Algebra is my weak link Always end up taking long methods in these...ismein bhi I was doing some complex mess, eliminated 2 options, but couldn't choose between the other two!regardsscrabbler
mine are algebra and geometry. the latter i feel is your strong point 😃
@iLoveTorres said:
mine are algebra and geometry. the latter i feel is your strong point
Haan Geometry and PnC used to be my weak links, then I worked like mad on them, ab woh manage ho jaata hai mostly ... algebra I was too lazy

regards
scrabbler

@ChirpiBird said:
2.see, a+b+c = -4/2ab+bc+ac = -3/2and abc = 1/2open the brackets (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)u get 1-abc + ab+bc+ac - (a+B+c)put the values .. u'll get 2.
mam how do you decide the "+"&"-" signs for the coeff or x^2,x,const term.. i usually end up making mistake in deciding the sign.. can you help me with it
@ChirpiBird said:
2.see, a+b+c = -4/2ab+bc+ac = -3/2and abc = 1/2open the brackets (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)u get 1-abc + ab+bc+ac - (a+B+c)put the values .. u'll get 2.
1 -1/2 -3/2 -(-2)= 1/2-3/2 +2 =-2/2 +2=1 ???
@iLoveTorres said:
mam how do you decide the "+"&"-" signs for the coeff or x^2,x,const term.. i usually end up making mistake in deciding the sign.. can you help me with it
left to right starting from b onwards.. (-) then (+) .. .alternatively.
ax^2+bx+c =0

rts are say p,q
p+q= -b/a
pq=c/a ..

similarly for 3 wala eq.

ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0
pqr roots

p+q+r=-b/a
pq+qr+pr= c/a
pqr=-d/a
@amresh_maverick said:
1 -1/2 -3/2 -(-2)= 1/2-3/2 +2 =-2/2 +2=1 ???
calculation dekhlo yar.. it's 2 am n i was watching exorcism of emily rose. Mind wasnt here. :P
method thik h. baaki calculation plz check kar lena.
@amresh_maverick said:
If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
1 he kya ans..?
@ChirpiBird said:
right to left starting from b onwards.. (-) then (+) .. .alternatively.ax^2+bx+c =0rts are say p,qp+q= -b/apq=c/a ..similarly for 3 wala eq.ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0pqr rootsp+q+r=-b/apq+qr+pr= c/apqr=-d/a
yeh toh left to right hai :P
@iLoveTorres said:
mam how do you decide the "+"&"-" signs for the coeff or x^2,x,const term.. i usually end up making mistake in deciding the sign.. can you help me with it
Alternate +/-.

Suppose roots are p, q, r, s the expression will be (x-p)(x-q)(x-r)(x-s)...
expansion will be x^4 - (1 at a time) x^3 + (2 at a time) x^2 - (3 at a time) x + (4 at a time) i.e. x^4 - (p + q + r + s) x^3 + (pq + pr + ps + qr + qs + rs) x^2 - (pqr + pqs + prs + qrs) x + (pqrs)

Example: cubic with roots 1, 2, 3 will be x^3 - 6x^2 + 11 x - 6

However if roots are -1, -2, -3 it will become x^3 + 6x^2 + 11 x + 6

regards
scrabbler

@amresh_maverick said:
If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
OA =1


x^2 + px +3=0 if roots are two successive odd natural nos, find the value of p ?
@amresh_maverick said:
If a , b, and c are the roots of 2x^3+4x^2 -3x-1=0 find tha value of (1-a)(1-b)(1-c)
aftr multplying it comes out 2 b 1-(a+b+c)+ab+bc+ac-abc
=1-(-2)+(-3/2)+(-1/2)=1
@iLoveTorres said:
yeh toh left to right hai
corrected.
sorry.


@vijay_chandola said:
Arrange A and B by 2!permutation of 7 letters between A and B=P(24, 7)rest letters+1(AxxxxxxxB) can be arranged by (26-7-2+1)!=18!==> A total number of 2!*P(24, 7)*18! option 2)
rest letters +1.....yea 1 kaha se aia???pls elaborate
@amresh_maverick said:
OA =1x^2 + px +3=0 if roots are two successive odd natural nos, find the value of p ?
4? roots are 1,3?
@ChirpiBird said:
4? roots are 1,3?
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