MDI, Gurgaon - Final Placements 2005

"Hi eddy i guess u have a fair chance of getting in!!
i went to MDI office recently to get my Duplicate Call Letter...
the admission officer told me that last yr. also a list of 250 people was diclared and still more than 80 waiting was cleared!!

so eddy dear just pray that atleast 131+55 = 186 people drop admissions "

http://www.pagalguy.com/cat/showthread.php?t=3046&page;=8&pp;=25&highlight;=mdi

so now u understand wat i was saying was true

they come up with a list of 250
120 join and wl 50 clrs
so effectively wl =170


hey listen brute...this logic is preposterous to say the least...
u have to come out with yr identity for yr posts to be taken seriously... and if u r from a very high ranked b school and belong to a famous coachin institue then y did u ask me the question u did via private message???????
come out clean...if u can

Guys..its really sad to see whats happening hereand im already sick of receiving calls during my holidays to come and respond..anyways.id plan to make sense one more time as my last post went waste anyways.

Barring one company Power Finance corporation - no company added training cost in their ctc and barring two companies UTI Bank and Power Finance Corporation no company added interest benefits to their ctc. The companies pay half you interests on the home loans and vehicle loans availed by u. For ex. UTI bank pays interest on home loans which comes to over rs 60000 per annum and also another 25k for vehicle loan on ur behalf..Approx in most companies, this componant alone comes to Rs 1 lakh. Add training cost and other benefits to the salaries stated by the companies and u do get the average salaries as quoted.

The salaries quoted at MDI as CTC by the companies included, basic, DA, HRA, Special allowance(cash componant which can be adjusted anyways u want to), medical, gratuity, provident funds and some mentioned leave travel.

MDI cannot quote blatantly wrong figures as they can be questioned. But yes, this has been the standard paramter to calculate our ctc and MDI has not backed out from mentioning what they have added to form the CTC. How many of the other instis are giving u the exact breakup?

I don't wana support my institute coz I have mixed feelings towards everything in life. But yes, I guess, in this particular context, things have been blown out of proportion. You guys heartily wished prateek, raj, qwezark, sammy, ashima, etc when they took time off to tell u ur calls, to help u in ur gd/pi, u guys said MDI was doing a great job..but today ur belting the same guys for no mistake of theirs..the official figures have been put up by the placement committee..why blame these guys for all this?

I have no soft corner for my juniors or batchmates either..infact frankly..if u ask me whom id wana stay in touch with 10 years down the line..i can name only 4 professors out here who have provided terrific support throught my stay education wise and other wise. They have been my true friends here with whom ive shared everythingso I wont get anything by supporting my juniors or insti.

Regarding the salaries.bschool salaries have always been blown out of proportion by every bschool. Too much hypeive always tried to state the truth.and have gone to the extent of posting that MBA itself is not a requirementits all hype..too much of it..im doing that coz this forum has given a lot to me and I don't want to misguide people here. Bschools have become nothing but employment exchanges for the junta now and nobody seeks beyond placements. Theres a lot to get out of a bschool and until u guys realize that..ul only stick to one parameter throught ur lives - PLACEMENTS.

Average Salaries- top salaries - ctc, gross -------- all bullshit. Cash that I can take home for me and my family..the north India head and his team who had come to interview me told me that I can take close to 30k home (depending on how I plan my tax) average for MDI in terms of take home cash this year would be 35k.there are quite a few companies who are payin over 50k in cash and Im sure there are over 25 students atleast who fall in this category. Most fall in the 30-38 category

One more incident id like to bring to ur noticeI don't blame u guys for ur outburst against MDI.but yes.there was one more top insti which had its placements sometime before we guys did. They quoted an avg salary close to 7.5 lakh..but frankly 6 of my friends study there and I know the true picture..and my very close friend told me that SBI Bank was a Day Zero company there.while at MDI SBI was one of the last companies on campus who could harldy get the number of students they wanted. It was one of the later companies on Day ONE. I knew 7.5 lakh was hogwash, given the companies that visited there..but yes, I had nothing to say coz each insti has its own parameters of calculating their ctc salaries and one must learn to respect that. If u cant, then ask for cash componant details and make ur own judgements..u don't have to strip every post made by a bschool.

For the uninformed, here are the details of the companies that visited /were slotted for placements:

FMCG/Consumer Durables:
Agrotech, Asian Paints, Cavin Kare, Cadburys, Dabur, Gillette, Godrej, GSK Consumer Healthcare, ICI Paints, ITC, Nestle, Reckit Benkieser, Whirlpool, Goodlass Nerolac, Samsung, Loreal..though the later companies didn't get students to recruit

Banks and Financial Institutions:
Deutsche Bank, BNP Paribas, HSBC(Amc), American Express, Inductis(offering over 8 lakh and non differiantial unlike what somebody said earlier), GE Money, GECIS, GE India, UTI Bank, SBI Caps, SBI Bank, IDBI Bank, IDBI Ltd, HDFC Bank, JP Morgan ERG, JP Morgan CRG(for both laterals and freshers.laterals with higher than entry salary - entry salary being 6 lakhs plus benefits for ERG), Power Finance Corporation, Securities Trading corporation of India(empty handed), ICICI Prudential, ICIC Lombard, Pulsar Knowledge Centre(offering 5.5 lakhs at entry levels conducted processes for 3 lateral candidates who rejected their offers and so the company went back empty handed), CARE(empty handed), GHF Financials for trading(empty handed), Aranca Equity research( empty handed)

Consulting:
William Mercer Consulting, Hewitt Associates, KPMG, Delloite Haskins and Sells, Kurt Salmon Associates - Technopak, Grant Thorton, Grow Talent(HR Consulting)

IT/ITES
IBM Global Services, Hewlett Packard(5.75 for freshers and 7 lakh for laterals), Tata consultancy services(laterals plus finals), I-Gate, Wipro(laterals and finals), Infosys(laterals and Finals), Satyam(laterals), SIFY(laterals), Ramco Systems(my roomie with 4 years exp got in J ), Birla soft(laterals - payin over 7.5 lakh gross salary), HCL Techonologies, Patni Computers(laterals only - paying over 7 lakh).. EXL Services, Evalue Serve, E serve, carritor, HCL Comnet, NIIT, though none of these later companies got any students.

Pharma:
Ranbaxy, Glenmark, Wockhardt(International Marketing Division), Lupin Pharma(supply chain management), Dr Reddys Laboratories..though only Ranbaxy Glenamark and Lupin got guysrest didn't.

Telecom:
Bharati(paying over 7.5 lakh exclusive of interest benefits, mobile bills, telephone facilities for home, etc etc), Siemens, IDEA Cellular and Tata TeleservicesBharati got over 4 guys and Idea and Tata Teleservices got none..

Groups:
Aditya Birla Group, Anand Group, DCM Shriram, Usha International Ltd,though only Aditya Birla Group got students

Others
British Oxygen Company, DHL(supply chain), Eicher, Group M, Maruti, NDPL, Star TV(picked up a guy with 3 years experience).though only DHL and Star TV got guys.

Ive posted these details just to ensure u guys have enuf information to make ur own judgements..use this forum to make judgements, not pass unwanted comments coz frankly.u guys should be bothered of ur take aways from here..making blatant comments dosent serve any purpose.
Guys.ive laid down the whole scenario in front of uevery bit of information Ive hadand I hope u understand that we as students are not here to boast of something which we are not. Ive give u the break up of average cash/take home salaries..ive given u the reasoning for the 8.3 lakh avg salary(which given the parameters stated by the placement committee holds true)..ive tried and answered most of ur questions. As regards international placements..somebody mentioned we didn't have them.ofcourse we did, but they were turned down coz of the students personal problems. Infact, we were one of the first schools to get international offers this year and the article was out in the newspapers that my batchmate had an international offer from Philips but we have not mentioned it as it was not taken..we have not mentioned anything which has not been taken by the studentsbut ya.with what offers have been accepted, the ctc which the college feels is the best measure and has been practicing every year has been considered. We have been honest enuf to give u the exact break up of the ctc that we have quoted..believe me, not many schools would wana do that.
I hope atleast now, some sanity and peace would follow here and also a word of advice to the junta..kindly understand that the ctcs, average salaries are all exaggerated, but each institute has its parameters and mention their salaries accordingly..so why blame a particular institute??????? Again its not coz im from MDI, but even as i browse thru pgforum it gets disgusting to see this every now and then.....

luv
bingo

Ofcourse.....missed out on the most controversial Shell which was the highest sal on campus ...... and a few other companies, which i cannot recall off my mind.......excuse me for that..... :)

luv
bingo

just three words...

well done bingo.........

best of luck for yr future endeavours.....

Great post bingo.. Good that u didn't get excited or make wild allegations like everyone else.. Thanks for all the Gyaan !!!!!!!

Thats a very informative post ...thanx for the clarification bingo...looks a lot more informative...

however even from this detailed post ..it looks like u ppl have added atleast 2-2.5 lacs for the training n development segment ...

for e.g. in ABG case if i know correctly(i have seen the presentation they r using this year over all bschool campus).. they pay same salaries over all campus(as stated expilicitly in the ppt)...there package is 6.7 lacs for branded porducts n about 5.2 lacs for all other segments (this includes everything from variable pay to acco provided... has been valued in this ..except for the training cost) and i really think ABG is a above average company..if its not then thats a diff matter..then it look like nearly 2-3 lacs has been added on this to get jus the figure quoted as average ...now this training n development cost is 50 % of the package given ...i know generally institutes use the delta method for calculating actual ctc ..but even in that case 0.2 or 0.3 is used as delta ..in this case it looks more like 0.4 or 0.5 ..which seems a bit high ...

okay....regarding AV Birla.......they were not one of the initial recruiters here...nor did they get lot of students.......what with the companies ive quoted in finance, fmcg .......... and laterals guys anyways didnt apply.

In order to clear some doubts........il even go to the extent of pasting an excell sheet cut out here.......which was a salary detail mailed to us by a company....and u guys claimed that company pays 6.5 lakh and is a huge payer......nopes....this is the sheet it sent to us guys.....and im pasting it as it is.....go thru and analyse it urselves...and again.....this was nowhere close to the top salary offered........there were enuf students who got salaries bigger than this. Cannot name the company coz im not permitted too(infact even this is not permitted....still risking it here , just for ur benefit, but ya, this company has been discussed earlier as a big payer)

Even in this excell sheet sent to us by the company, training cost has not been added, not has the other benefits been quantified.....plus int, insurance, loans etc have been shown outside the 8.13lakhs quoted.....and this was for a fresher........
guys believe me, wel get no kick by duping people......and again no point in giving individual company details saying A V Birla pays 6.7 ....coz in that 6.7 no additional benefits were added.....like ur loan interests(which normaly comes to 1 lakh per annum and most companies offer it to u....)
luv
bingo
Grade F (AUT) W.E.F. June 1, 2005

Elements

Per annum



Basic

180,000

Other Allowances(cash)

325,000

House Rent Allowance *

180,000

Leave Travel Allowance

50,000

(Prorated, payable alongwith salary payable in the month of April of every year.)

Total

735,000

Medical Reimbursement

15,000

Superannuation Contributions by Company on Basic Salary

63,000
(PF, Gratuity, Pension)


Grand Total

813,000



Post confirmation - interest free loans

Vehicle Loan

100,000

Household Loan

50,000

Interest payable by the company

120,000



* No House Rent Allowance if Housing/Chummery provided.



Post confirmation 2 bedroom accommodation will be provided. The building maintenance charges levied by the housing society will be borne by the Company.
Medical Reimbursement - Actuals for self, wife and 2 children.
Also Group Insurance for spouse, children worth 2.5 lakhs



Other standard benefits available on comfirmation

Good work Bingo......
Keep it up......

have fun......
me also embarking on hols......soon.....

ciao,
Gaurav
PGPM: 2003-05
XIMB

Also, Accenture consulting recruited for laterals.....and they took guys with 4 years of experiance.......a guy who headed north india region in sales at a reputed company(a real big name) with 4+ years of exp.......its anybodys guess how much they woulda paid him..............

anyways......i sometimes fail to understand why do i even try to justify these figures
luv
bingo

I have been a guest member of PG for 2 yrs
but frankly i 'vent seen such an informative n
candid post like tht of bingo

i think it will put most of the speculation abt MDI's salary figures
or for tht matter other B-schools' figures to rest.

grt post bingo

good job bingo
8.3 is still a ?

Mods now we demand dat u have to come out with who this brute.......
this is toooooooo much.....on his part....just comes on.....posts some crap.....and goes off......
which crap insti does he belong to.......crap insti because if it is producin people like brute.....wat else can it be........

sorry for language......cudnt keep it under check.......
after bingos such posts again he is back......

ciao,
Gaurav

well said bingo...

gr8 post man

this one is the most informative and productive of all the post... great work bingo since posting of such candid details is not generally acceptable to many a instis
there are still plethora of questions hanging in the air about average salary since these are the same companies who visit across all campuses and i still don't see it going that high.......

anywayz for the moment lets just say.... gr8 work mdi and congrats u all who got through 2 years of extremely gruelling time.

so eddy dear just pray that atleast 131+55 = 186 people drop admissions


to be frank this number may be looking high at first view but considering almost same sets of candidates get calls from IIM's based on same CAT merit list, it should not be something to ponder-on too much.

The problems starts only if someone leaves MDI and joins some other low ranked college, which is clearly not the case here.

Hi every body,
Here's an intresting piece of information i hit. Check this out .This is an eye opener!!!!!!!!!!!
One hundred-twenty-two students, 56 companies, deals worth Rs 2.92 crore... and all over in a mere six-and-a-half hours.(article abt MDI )


I-T majors like Wipro, Satyam, Patni, IBM, HP and TCS.picked 39 stud. Other major recr. Godrej, Cadbury s, ITC, William Mercer and Deutsche Bank,Amex,HDFC,IDBI,HSBC,Shell.Interestingly out of 13 maj names given only 4 offers more than 8.3 lak..how is avg sal 8.3lak..i fail to comprehend




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this report seems to be faked.there is a gross mismatch between the figures and the company quoted.take for example the lowest salary figure...if tcs and satyam are highest recruiters then there is no way they offer a package of more than 5 lacs..ditto HCL. wonder why are they trying to put students in the dark,shudnt their be a body to check these false claims.fact remains that mdi was a good b grade school but with these kinda activities its fast becoming one of those shady places to be avoided.




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its all fake!!!

Mathematics we all know... 2.92 Crores / 122 = 2.4 Lakhs.

MDI Mathematics 2.92 Crores / 122 = 8.3 Lakhs !!!!!

Strange....guys dont believe it....its more of a hype....I am frm MDI and I have got an offer of 3 Lac.





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Funny indeed !!

I really wish MDI could teach rest of the B-schools how to make 56 companies conduct GDs for 122 students, interview them individually and offer them jobs after all the negotiations, all within 6.5 hours!!
The nos. just dont add up guys.
Please be prudent enough to put something like this in the paper and not just publish it based on the info received. Obviously the process was continuing days before the actual placement date, including PPOs.
Hopefully we can expect something more rational from such esteemed papers than just hearsay. Wake up MDI, even IIMs cant afford the luxury of placements in 400 minutes...lol...funny indeed

Strat_guru vbmenu_register("postmenu_150546", true); wrote:
"Strange....guys dont believe it....its more of a hype....I am frm MDI and I have got an offer of 3 Lac"
he he he...........most hilarious post ive ever read in my life........
anyways.........i checked with the mod.....got to know ur from NITIE......and brute_mba is from IIFT........got clarified with one of the mods..........
Guys so far, i didnt wana believe that it was MDI bashing here..........genuienly believed that people were sarcastic of the avg salary mentioned and wanted clarifications honestly. So i took pains to clarify it with the placement co ordinator etc.....gave u the exact break ups.......even posted an excel sheet of a company's salary........and now have realised its really shameful to post in a place where such nincompoops, cheap #$$%$$#s post......
Its a shame u havnt learnt ur lessons at school well guys......forget bschool.
My request to the mods........do something about this......and my request to the fellow pgites....uve seen it urselves now.....now do u realise that this is officially a "MDI Bashing Session"???
Allwin, ive always had respect for u......and even now believe u and the mods will take the right action and also ensure henceforth no institute bashing takes place......its a shame to see ur wonderful forum head this way.
luv
bingo

:huh: when u think sanity has returned in this thread...this post comes.....dude plz..plzzzz...check back some older posts...i think mandevians have tried their best to clear the confusions as much as they can.....now u dont except them to come here and post the placement details of all the 122 post do u????..take a break ...

ciao...



Mathematics we all know... 2.92 Crores / 122 = 2.4 Lakhs.

MDI Mathematics 2.92 Crores / 122 = 8.3 Lakhs !!!!!

Strange....guys dont believe it....its more of a hype....I am frm MDI and I have got an offer of 3 Lac.



We expect the future managers of the country to behave more maturely and take charge of situations in a better way. When did you join MDI mr. Strat_guru. Or you left MDI because of your 3lakh salary to join NITIE?

As of now i am not banning you just to see what you have to say. believe me reading your response is gonna be fun of a mods life.

This is the warning to both brute_mba and strat_guru. Anymore impresonation or hidden identities we will ban your instis from accessing the forum. You can imagine what will happen if we do that.

Added Later: Strat_guru is banned.
Take a hike ,
Chandoo

Chandoo - head over and ban both users. Both impersonating.

pagalguy Says
Chandoo - head over and ban both users. Both impersonating.


Done.