I feel both are correct.. Because the verb " believes" has nothing to with the subject that comes after it ("they" may refer to others) It is well conforming to Ricki and Ami..
Neither/Nor and Either/Or always follows singular and not plural. Now y is 'She' used..The rule is that the pronoun should be in accord with the one which is closest to it..
If it wud have been Neither ram nor sita then -->she ,If it wud have been Neither sita nor Ram then-->He
, the government now prohibits the sale of cocaine derivatives.
A) sold over the counter at the turn of the century B) while sold over the counter at the turn of the century C)being sold over the counter at the turn of the century D) although they were selling them over the counter at the turn of the century E)although they were sold over the counter at the turn of the century.
the answer this one is D... which is similar in structure to the earlier one.... hope it gives some idea! :)
What's wrong with (E) here. It is concise and hase only one pronoun "they" so seems better than (D).
yes, i agree that the word "believes" has nothing to do with the pronoun.. but from that u can infer that the subject is singular... could u able to figure that diff...
now if the sentence looks some thing like this.... then ur statement would make sense !.. "Ricki and Amy believe"....then it is clear that the subject is complex and it needs to be sufficed with a plural pronoun "they" instead of a singular pronoun "she"....
more over.... " she " refers to amy and not rickie..... if " they " is pointing to some thing else other than those mentioned in the given statement.... then the answer choice is surely wrong....
Right dude..!! If its refering to Ricki and Rimi..then the given explanation is very correct..
What's wrong with (E) here. It is concise and hase only one pronoun "they" so seems better than (D).
Does it have anything to do with 'them' used in option D. As far as verb is concerned,i guess both should be fine,infact i personally would have prefered 'sold'
Does it have anything to do with 'them' used in option D. As far as verb is concerned,i guess both should be fine,infact i personally would have prefered 'sold'
Right! I also think the same.
pasting the question from where the discussion started
1.Although just inside the orbit of Jupiter, amateur astronomers with good telescopes should be able to see the comet within the next few weeks. (A) Although just inside the orbit of (B) Although it is just inside the orbit of (C) Just inside the orbit of (D) Orbiting just inside (E) Having orbited just inside
Here, correct option is (B). "It" unabiguously refers to "comet" because "astronomers" is plural.
our new question is Sold over the counter at the turn of the century,the government now prohibits the sale of cocaine derivatives. A) sold over the counter at the turn of the century B) while sold over the counter at the turn of the century C)being sold over the counter at the turn of the century D) although they were selling them over the counter at the turn of the century E)although they were sold over the counter at the turn of the century.
Both look similar, so (E) should be correct for this one. "they" certainly can't refer to the goverment because goverment is being used as a singular.
"which", I still believe modifies the noun preceding it, at least it seems in this question.
which can modify both nouns and noun phrases ...you can check OG 10 or 11 ( i mean questions having usage of which in them ) . "smallest camcoreder in the world" is the noun phrase here and "which" is modifying the entire noun phrase. Its one single entity . There is no question of a noun nearer to which or further from it.
secondly, the paritciple "weighing" in (B) doesn't look correct to me at all. It should modify the camcorder but here it looks as if modifying the whole phrase "which is as long as a handheld computer".
Thats precisely what an absolute phrase is meant for : to modify the entire preceeding phrase with a participle . Secondly , in my opinion its not modifying the phrase "which is as long as a handheld computer" but the phrase " to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world" , coz the phrase "which is as long as a handheld computer" is enclosed between two commas , and whenever a phrase is enclosed b/w two commas it means that its a parenthetical statement merely modifying smthing previously stated in the sentence . So the crux of the matter is even if you remove the parenthitical statemnt the sentence shud make sense . Just try reading the sentence without the parenthetical element and and it would make sense to you.
The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world,weighing less than 11 ounces.
Criticism , brickbats are welcome ====================================== Saurav, thanks for an elaborate explanation. However, in the following sentence The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world,weighing less than 11 ounces. I think, "weighing" is wrong. As a participle it should be referring to the whole clause before it. But logically it should refer to only the camcorder. weighing is not refering to the "company unveiling the camcorder" read the sentence again after removing extra info The electronics company has unveiled a camcorder, weighing less than 11 ounces. Is it grammatically correct? I think not.
Neither/Nor and Either/Or always follows singular and not plural. Now y is 'She' used..The rule is that the pronoun should be in accord with the one which is closest to it..
If it wud have been Neither ram nor sita then -->she ,If it wud have been Neither sita nor Ram then-->He
I hope this clears the doubt
Go through Manhattan SC..its the bible
So the thumb rule would be ---
"With the use of or, either-or or neither-nor, find the subject nearest to the verb and then make that verb agree in number with the subject."
Also it may be important to note that "When either or neither are in a sentence alone (without or/nor), they are not considered to be part of a disjunctive phrase. And, In such cases, they are considered singular and take only singular verbs."
pasting the question from where the discussion started
1.Although just inside the orbit of Jupiter, amateur astronomers with good telescopes should be able to see the comet within the next few weeks. (A) Although just inside the orbit of (B) Although it is just inside the orbit of (C) Just inside the orbit of (D) Orbiting just inside (E) Having orbited just inside
Here, correct option is (B). "It" unabiguously refers to "comet" because "astronomers" is plural.
our new question is Sold over the counter at the turn of the century,the government now prohibits the sale of cocaine derivatives. A) sold over the counter at the turn of the century B) while sold over the counter at the turn of the century C)being sold over the counter at the turn of the century D) although they were selling them over the counter at the turn of the century E)although they were sold over the counter at the turn of the century.
Both look similar, so (E) should be correct for this one. "they" certainly can't refer to the goverment because goverment is being used as a singular.
any comments?
In option "E" the dependant clause "although they were sold over the counter at the turn of the century" makes us to think that "the government".. was sold over the counter... this is absolutely illogical.. Option "D" tries to avoid this problem.. which is far more clear than option E...
treat this question similar to the earlier one.. "it" refers to orbit and not to "astronomers" this is an excerpt from a previous post by saurav..... " E is grammatically incorrect becuase the although clause is modifying government rather than cocaine derivatives.So choice E wud imply that the govt was being sold over the counter. the clause starting with Although shud modify government because the word govenment immediately follows the although clause ..hence D is the better answer grammatically. The underlined portion should modify government and not cocaine derivatives. "
Saurav, thanks for an elaborate explanation. However, in the following sentence The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world,weighing less than 11 ounces. I think, "weighing" is wrong. As a participle it should be referring to the whole clause before it. But logically it should refer to only the camcorder. weighing is not refering to the "company unveiling the camcorder" read the sentence again after removing extra info The electronics company has unveiled a camcorder, weighing less than 11 ounces. Is it grammatically correct? I think not.
k dude , lets drop it . The chance of a question similar to this one coming in GMAT is very remote.So lets just drop it and discuss other questions
In option "E" the dependant clause "although they were sold over the counter at the turn of the century" makes us to think that "the government".. was sold over the counter... this is absolutely illogical.. Option "D" tries to avoid this problem.. which is far more clear than option E...
treat this question similar to the earlier one.. "it" refers to orbit and not to "astronomers" this is an excerpt from a previous post by saurav..... " E is grammatically incorrect becuase the although clause is modifying government rather than cocaine derivatives.So choice E wud imply that the govt was being sold over the counter. the clause starting with Although shud modify government because the word govenment immediately follows the although clause ..hence D is the better answer grammatically. The underlined portion should modify government and not cocaine derivatives. "
Adding to what pushing_hard has posted ,it refers to the comet and not the astronomers. As Shiva had correctly pointed out in his previous post , it is used to refer to inanimate things.So it over here refers unambigously to the comet ( and i stress again "Comet", an inanimate thing). There shudnt b any confusion regardin it referring to some singular or plural thing ( coz it cant refer to animate things ) .
Hi friends, Please advise how to improve sentence correction score. I already finished OG 11th Edition and understand the question but when practice other question, the result is same 66.5%-75% accuracy.
I am sure this is not the case for +750 in real GMAT. Please advise how to improve the accuracy. At present I am doing manhattan GMAT Sentence correction.
Sorry guys, want to bring a point to be noticed. though this sentence has been discussed plently of times.... yet just because the answer given from the source differs from our explanation. we tend to not look it in the right way.....
as some one posted that
"cars come in many colors, which can be very cool or very ugly".. this sentence contains ambiguity... i agreee that we cannot be sure about what "which" is referring to! (cars or colors) keeping this as an example and start proceeding with the SC below,, we can eliminate C,D,E (claim to - idiom) from A and B, we can say that "B" is not wrong at the same time it may be right. (sorry if am confusing u .. guys!) why B is not wrong (my reason - though which refers to world(illogical) and camcorder (logical)).. so we can say that the ambiguity is minimised .. and keep B.... but what is wrong with A.....the dependant clause "the lenght of which is that of a hand held computer"... i guess there is nothin wrong with the caluse (correct me if am wrong! 😃 )... and the clause clearly placed adjacent (/ close) to the noun to which the phrase modifies...
sorry for makin the post longer... but it will helpo many of us to get clear on this type of SC. as we constantly get this "which" type pof questions...
The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces. A. to be the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing C. is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, and it weighs D. is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs E. is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing
and one more thing to be noticed in the first question is the usage of "it" after the connector and.... so the last sentence stands as a independent clause .. now does this "it" refer to camcorder / or the company.... as saurav said that "it refers to inanimate".. if thats the case then both are inanimate here (compant / camcorder )....
atlast even am arriving at answer B not because the dependant clause (in both A and B) is referring to .. but because of the pronoun it.. and eliminating A.....ur suggestions are most welcome.....start firing... :crazyeye:
but it is also illogical to consider "the elct compny " weighs less thaan......! so atlast totally confused and still am standing with A and B.. ti which one should i fall !.. help me guys. !
The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces. A. to be the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing C. is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, and it weighs D. is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs E. is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing
This question was discussed earlier and it was said that "Claims to be " is the correct idiom and therefore options C,D,E can be ruled out... I dont rely on grammar rules to answer qns.. I answer them intuitively(I am comfortable that way and words like modifiers,parallelism only put me off).. I dont know what the mistake is with "claims is".. I have definitely read a lot of articles that have used " claims is " A simple google search with this "The electronics company has unveiled what it claims is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, " tag will throw results were you will get articles that use "claims is "...
It may be that many people use "claims is " without realizing that it is a mistake but I doubt that.. Sorry for diverting the discussion is an entirely different tangent but have not guys read/used "claims is " ?? Would be grateful if someone can clarify..
This question was discussed earlier and it was said that "Claims to be " is the correct idiom and therefore options C,D,E can be ruled out... I dont rely on grammar rules to answer qns.. I answer them intuitively(I am comfortable that way and words like modifiers,parallelism only put me off).. I dont know what the mistake is with "claims is".. I have definitely read a lot of articles that have used " claims is " A simple google search with this "The electronics company has unveiled what it claims is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, " tag will throw results were you will get articles that use "claims is "...
It may be that many people use "claims is " without realizing that it is a mistake but I doubt that.. Sorry for diverting the discussion is an entirely different tangent but have not guys read/used "claims is " ?? Would be grateful if someone can clarify..
similar to "claim is" there are plenty of other phrases/ idioms vary much in GMAT.. some thing like "consider"... the ultimate motive of us is get a good score.... and GMAT uses this format ... "claims to" (often) and "claims that" (very rare).... so it ur take to follow or not !... but this is what being tested in GMAT....
I went to "beatthegmat", hoping that this qn would have been discussed there.The answer given there is option 'D'..
I dont think it will be appropriate to post a link to another forum . But if posting a link that leads to another forum is allowed , I can post the link to that particular page.
I went to "beatthegmat", hoping that this qn would have been discussed there.The answer given there is option 'D'..
I dont think it will be appropriate to post a link to another forum . But if posting a link that leads to another forum is allowed , I can post the link to that particular page.
dude, sorry i was away for a while... saw ur message.. ... :) totally contradicting.. sorry if i had made any offensive statemts... ! :-P now comin to that question.....i guess the answer is not surely C,D,E.. see this sentence.. just go by what is given in OG..... question: ======= A firm that specializes in the analysis of handwriting claims from a one-page writing sample that it can assess more than three hundred personality traits, including enthusiasm, imagination, and ambition. (A) from a one-page writing sample that it can assess. (B) from a one-page writing sample it has the ability of assessing (C) the ability, from a one-page writing sample, of assessing (D) to be able, from a one-page writing sample, to assess (E) being able to assess, from a one-page writing sample, Explanation: (given in OG.....! ) ========== Choice D, the best answer, correctly uses an infinitive to connect the verb claims with the firm's assertion: claims to be able
... to assess .... All of the other choices use ungrammatical or unclear constructions after claims.
Choices A and B present clauses that should be introduced by "claims that." In A, placing that after sample
rather than after claims produces the unintended statement that the claim itself is made on the basis of a single
one-page writing sample. Also, in B, the ability of assessing is unidiomatic. Choice C repeats this second fault and uses the unidiomatic
claims the ability. Choice E uses the ungrammatical claims being able to assess.
JUST SELECT THE ANSWER CHOICE WHICH HAS THIS FORMAT "CLAIMS TO BE...." leave the rest...! :)
A firm that specializes in the analysis of handwriting claims from a one-page writing sample that it can assess more than three hundred personality traits, including enthusiasm, imagination, and ambition. (A) from a one-page writing sample that it can assess. (B) from a one-page writing sample it has the ability of assessing (C) the ability, from a one-page writing sample, of assessing (D) to be able, from a one-page writing sample, to assess (E) being able to assess, from a one-page writing sample, Explanation: (given in OG.....! ) ========== Choice D, the best answer, correctly uses an infinitive to connect the verb claims with the firm's assertion:
claims to be able
... to assess .... All of the other choices use ungrammatical or unclear constructions after
claims.
Choices A and B present clauses that should be introduced by "claims that." In A, placing that after
sample
rather than after claims produces the unintended statement that the claim itself is made on the basis of
a single
one-page writing sample. Also, in B, the ability of assessing is unidiomatic. Choice C repeats this
second fault and uses the unidiomatic
claims the ability. Choice E uses the ungrammatical claims being able to assess.
JUST SELECT THE ANSWER CHOICE WHICH HAS THIS FORMAT "CLAIMS TO BE...." leave the rest...! :)
Did you check the link that I had PMed you ?
I am not saying "Claims to be" is wrong.. I am only saying for that qn which you had raised option D is better than A and B ...
For this Qn,I will go with D.. And D is correct because of " Able to", able to is the right idiomatic form..
anyways can we extrapolate the answer to this qn to arrive at the answer for another qn ? Is that the right way to go about it ? And it doesnt say that "claims to be" is the only correct idiomatic form..
I would happy if some others who hav a grasp of grammar also jump in and address this...
Sorry guys, want to bring a point to be noticed. though this sentence has been discussed plently of times.... yet just because the answer given from the source differs from our explanation. we tend to not look it in the right way.....
as some one posted that
"cars come in many colors, which can be very cool or very ugly".. this sentence contains ambiguity... i agreee that we cannot be sure about what "which" is referring to! (cars or colors) keeping this as an example and start proceeding with the SC below,, we can eliminate C,D,E (claim to - idiom) from A and B, we can say that "B" is not wrong at the same time it may be right. (sorry if am confusing u .. guys!) why B is not wrong (my reason - though which refers to world(illogical) and camcorder (logical)).. so we can say that the ambiguity is minimised .. and keep B.... but what is wrong with A.....the dependant clause "the lenght of which is that of a hand held computer"... i guess there is nothin wrong with the caluse (correct me if am wrong! 😃 )... and the clause clearly placed adjacent (/ close) to the noun to which the phrase modifies...
sorry for makin the post longer... but it will helpo many of us to get clear on this type of SC. as we constantly get this "which" type pof questions...
The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces. A. to be the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs B. to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing C. is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, and it weighs D. is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs E. is the worlds smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing
and one more thing to be noticed in the first question is the usage of "it" after the connector and.... so the last sentence stands as a independent clause .. now does this "it" refer to camcorder / or the company.... as saurav said that "it refers to inanimate".. if thats the case then both are inanimate here (compant / camcorder )....
atlast even am arriving at answer B not because the dependant clause (in both A and B) is referring to .. but because of the pronoun it.. and eliminating A.....ur suggestions are most welcome.....start firing... :crazyeye:
but it is also illogical to consider "the elct compny " weighs less thaan......! so atlast totally confused and still am standing with A and B.. ti which one should i fall !.. help me guys. !
A or B ?
Some of the GMAT tips(these are my own ) when which is present it should always refer to the nearest known. This is the case in OG 11 or OG 10 every time a question has which in it. Now coming to claims(again this observation is my own) claims to and claims that are both idiomatic claims that is subjunctive and uses base form of verb. This is the case with required to and requires that etc. Coming to this question First -- the idiom is claims to( GMAT is very strict on idiom usage doesn't matter whether we see articles that say claims is and if people consider it correct. GMAT simply doesn't) Go through OGs and make a list of idioms. this rules out C,D,and E A. when we say length ,capacity etc there has to be an equation sort of relationship. Length of Nokia N92 is equal to that of N70 (or greater than or less than that of N70) length of Nokia N92 is that(length) of N70 is awkward and doesn't clearly state the idea. This is the first error The electronic company----digital camcorder, and it---. Here it has no clear referent. B. only error (according rules of OG) is which seems to point to world but there is no other error. If which refers to "the smallest camcorder in the world" this is correct. Anyway B is the best of the lot if not the correct one.Hope this helps
Some of the GMAT tips(these are my own ) when which is present it should always refer to the nearest known. This is the case in OG 11 or OG 10 every time a question has which in it. Now coming to claims(again this observation is my own) claims to and claims that are both idiomatic claims that is subjunctive and uses base form of verb. This is the case with required to and requires that etc. Coming to this question First -- the idiom is claims to( GMAT is very strict on idiom usage doesn't matter whether we see articles that say claims is and if people consider it correct. GMAT simply doesn't) Go through OGs and make a list of idioms. this rules out C,D,and E A. when we say length ,capacity etc there has to be an equation sort of relationship. Length of Nokia N92 is equal to that of N70 (or greater than or less than that of N70) length of Nokia N92 is that(length) of N70 is awkward and doesn't clearly state the idea. This is the first error The electronic company----digital camcorder, and it---. Here it has no clear referent. B. only error (according rules of OG) is which seems to point to world but there is no other error. If which refers to "the smallest camcorder in the world" this is correct. Anyway B is the best of the lot if not the correct one.Hope this helps
Dude that was a real good explanation !.... thanks a lot !
can some expalin how to go a head with this SC.... ? Among the emotions on display in the negotiating room were anger for repeatedly raising the issue over and over again and preventing the raw wounds from earlier battles from ever beginning to heal. (A) were anger for repeatedly raising the issue over and over again and preventing the raw wounds from earlier battles from ever beginning to heal (B) was anger for repeatedly raising the issue and preventing the raw wounds from earlier battles from ever beginning to heal (C) were anger over repeatedly raising the issue and preventing the raw wounds from earlier battles to begin healing (D) was anger about the issue, which was raised over and over, and preventing the wounds from earlier battles, still raw, to begin healing (E) were anger about the issue, which was raised repeatedly, and preventing the raw wounds from earlier battles to begin to heal
